ChilLed New Cob Replacement

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Slinging PAR

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skoomd said:
Sigh....... It's like im talking to 3 year olds..... You don't need to believe me. But what I state is FACT.

"Crop photosynthesis to a large extent correlates with the light profile within the canopy (González-Real et al., 2007; Niinemets, 2007; Sarlikioti et al., 2011a). In the vertical profile of the canopy, light intensity decreases exponentially from top to the bottom of the canopy, as described by the Beer-Lambert–Bouguer law (Chandrasekhar, 1950; Monsi and Saeki, 2005) of which light extinction coefficient can be used to quantify the vertical light distribution in the canopy. Diffuse light exhibits a lower extinction coefficient than direct light (Urban et al., 2012; Li et al., 2014a) although the effect depends on solar position (Morris, 1989). This indicates diffuse light penetrates deeper into the crop canopy."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4559655/


And just to be CLEAR, more light sources literally means more diffuse lighting. Diffusion via a frosted glass panel simply spreads out the photons more. The same fucking way that adding more light sources would.
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Wrong.

Let us know when you get a PAR meter and then we will let you sit at the adult table. In the meantime, ask yourself what a cob actually is and see if you can figure out how it is multiple light sources. Maybe you can ask your dad for some help.
 
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skoomd

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Slinging PAR said:
Wrong.

Let us know when you get a PAR meter and then we will let you sit at the adult table. In the meantime, ask yourself what a cob actually is and see if you can figure out how it is multiple light sources. Maybe you can ask your dad for some help.
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I'm cringing at your stupidity. Spreading out the light sources ALSO diffuses the light. Get learnt, bud.

What is more diffuse, a laser beam at 100w or 100 spread out diodes at 1w each.

Your trolling is laughable.
 
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Ryante55

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Slinging PAR said:
Wrong.

Let us know when you get a PAR meter and then we will let you sit at the adult table. In the meantime, ask yourself what a cob actually is and see if you can figure out how it is multiple light sources. Maybe you can ask your dad for some help.
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I have a par meter I'll get my hands on a couple of these growmou5 boards I bet they will have better penetration than the quantum board.
 
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Ryante55

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skoomd said:
I'm cringing at your stupidity. Spreading out the light sources ALSO diffuses the light. Get learnt, bud.

What is more diffuse, a laser beam at 100w or 100 spread out diodes at 1w each.

Your trolling is laughable.
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If your running each diode at the same current you will get more penetration packing them closer together you also lose spread. Your saying that's wrong? Or am I just too stoned to understand?
 
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skoomd

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Ryante55 said:
If your running each diode at the same current you will get more penetration packing them closer together you also lose spread. Your saying that's wrong? Or am I just too stoned to understand?
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Yes packing them together, you get worse penetration. That is because spreading out the light sources makes the light more diffused, and it is a fact that more diffuse lighting penetrates the canopy better.
 
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a mongo frog

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nfhiggs said:
Explain why that snippet from a research paper is wrong, please. Otherwise that's just useless bleating.
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The guy said beaming through the layer of foliage leaves. That would be like saying shade doesn't exist when the sun is out. How much massive "penetration" are you getting through a nice thick ass canopy?
 
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skoomd

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a mongo frog said:
The guy said beaming through the layer of foliage leaves. That would be like saying shade doesn't exist when the sun is out. How much massive "penetration" are you getting through a nice thick ass canopy?
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There is of course shade, especially in direct sunlight. But there's LESS shade when it's cloudy out, because the sunlight is much more diffused as it passes through clouds instead of just diffusing off of tiny particles in the atmosphere.
 
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Slinging PAR

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nfhiggs said:
Explain why that snippet from a research paper is wrong, please. Otherwise that's just useless bleating.
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No skoomd applied the context wrong. He is trying to use something not relevant to the topic to justify his position. Classic deflection used by the ignorant when debating.

My preference is that he rights himself and gets on the better path to enlightenment.

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I have a par meter I'll get my hands on a couple of these growmou5 boards I bet they will have better penetration than the quantum board.
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You mean intensity?

skoomd said:
Yes packing them together, you get worse penetration. That is because spreading out the light sources makes the light more diffused, and it is a fact that more diffuse lighting penetrates the canopy better.
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Oh really? I still don't understand this penetration thing you are referring to since you aren't using lasers to cut through plant material.

Now I think you might mean intensity or even depth (i.e. a range of intensity over a distance from light source) but I am not going to make that assumption unless you confirm that you understand. After that you can then make reference to the multiple angles from multiple light sources which is another good discussion on its own. Maybe ask your dad for some help.
 
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skoomd

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Slinging PAR said:
No skoomd applied the context wrong. He is trying to use something not relevant to the topic to justify his position. Classic deflection used by the ignorant when debating.

My preference is that he rights himself and gets on the better path to enlightenment.



You mean intensity?



Oh really? I still don't understand this penetration thing you are referring to since you aren't using lasers to cut through plant material.

Now I think you might mean intensity or even depth (i.e. a range of intensity over a distance from light source) but I am not going to make that assumption unless you confirm that you understand. After that you can then make reference to the multiple angles from multiple light sources which is another good discussion on its own. Maybe ask your dad for some help.
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Jesus you are either dumb as a rock or are the worst troll ever.

I quoted, and linked, an article proving literally what I was saying. I'm not using something irrelevant to the topic to justify jack shit. I am quoting an article that has hundreds of sources in it, and laws of physics you simply don't understand.

I'll quote again for your ignorance. "This indicates diffuse light penetrates deeper into the crop canopy."" Do you read what that says? Or do you still want to assume light/canopy penetration is a made up term?

I swear, this is the simpliest fucking thing yet you want to resort to making jokes about me because you're either A) trolling like a child or B) are too fucking dumb to understand this simple, RELEVANT idea.


Tell the folks here about your 3 umol/joule vero 29 light you've had for 2 years that would require running a rediculous amount of cobs at 5-7 watts. I want pictures. Now.
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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skoomd said:
There is of course shade, especially in direct sunlight. But there's LESS shade when it's cloudy out, because the sunlight is much more diffused as it passes through clouds instead of just diffusing off of tiny particles in the atmosphere.
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How long for corn on the bbq then?
 
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Slinging PAR

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a mongo frog said:
How long for corn on the bbq then?
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Makes more sense and is more relevant to the discussion than what he posted.

skoomd said:
Jesus you are either dumb as a rock or are the worst troll ever.

I quoted, and linked, an article proving literally what I was saying. I'm not using something irrelevant to the topic to justify jack shit. I am quoting an article that has hundreds of sources in it, and laws of physics you simply don't understand.

I'll quote again for your ignorance. "This indicates diffuse light penetrates deeper into the crop canopy."" Do you read what that says? Or do you still want to assume light/canopy penetration is a made up term?

I swear, this is the simpliest fucking thing yet you want to resort to making jokes about me because you're either A) trolling like a child or B) are too fucking dumb to understand this simple, RELEVANT idea.


Tell the folks here about your 3 umol/joule vero 29 light you've had for 2 years that would require running a rediculous amount of cobs at 5-7 watts. I want pictures. Now.
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It is nice to want things. You are not worthy of pictures anyhow. Other than a few old timers left, most knowledgeable people have moved on from this site. I just keep coming back from time to time to check in to see if anything is interesting. Sometimes I drop into threads like these and can't resist putting someone in their place.

And yeah, I do have a ridiculous amount of CoBs as you put it. I do not cringe at 50 and 100 MOQ from the major suppliers when I am building out lighting systems. That is why I think this is funny - you fail to take into account growing in more than a 3x3 space. Your world is so limited that it is comical.
 
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skoomd

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Slinging PAR said:
Makes more sense and is more relevant to the discussion than what he posted.



It is nice to want things. You are not worthy of pictures anyhow. Other than a few old timers left, most knowledgeable people have moved on from this site. I just keep coming back from time to time to check in to see if anything is interesting. Sometimes I drop into threads like these and can't resist putting someone in their place.

And yeah, I do have a ridiculous amount of CoBs as you put it. I do not cringe at 50 and 100 MOQ from the major suppliers when I am building out lighting systems. That is why I think this is funny - you fail to take into account growing in more than a 3x3 space. Your world is so limited that it is comical.
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Okay bud


You claiming a vero 29 can output 3.33 umol/joule and 228 lumen/w is the funniest shit ive read in a long time. And the fact you wont show it is all the closure I need.

Have fun with your magical bullshit. I like to live in reality.

The whole trolling thing you're doing is pretty sad. But keep at it bud. Maybe one day you'll be good at it.
 
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Slinging PAR

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skoomd said:
Okay bud


You claiming a vero 29 can output 3.33 umol/joule and 228 lumen/w is the funniest shit ive read in a long time. And the fact you wont show it is all the closure I need.

Have fun with your magical bullshit. I like to live in reality.

The whole trolling thing you're doing is pretty sad. But keep at it bud. Maybe one day you'll be good at it.
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Show what? It is publicly available information.

Besides how could you possibly verify the information anyhow? You can post fake anything on the internet. At least I am referencing information from a well established manufacturer, not some fly by night operation that will be out of business in a couple of years.
 
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skoomd

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a mongo frog said:
Ok dude settle down. Day 22. Strawberry Banana.
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Was talking to slingingpar, not you. Sorry if it came off that way.

Looks good. I am growing honey bananas right now myself, which is strawberry banana x honey boo boo. Been wanting to grow it or strawberry banana for ages
 
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Slinging PAR

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skoomd said:
Was talking to slingingpar, not you. Sorry if it came off that way.

Looks good. I am growing honey bananas right now myself, which is strawberry banana x honey boo boo. Been wanting to grow it or strawberry banana for ages
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I think he is showing you what you have been asking for.
 
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Humple

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Slinging PAR said:
No skoomd applied the context wrong. He is trying to use something not relevant to the topic to justify his position. Classic deflection used by the ignorant when debating.

My preference is that he rights himself and gets on the better path to enlightenment.



You mean intensity?



Oh really? I still don't understand this penetration thing you are referring to since you aren't using lasers to cut through plant material.

Now I think you might mean intensity or even depth (i.e. a range of intensity over a distance from light source) but I am not going to make that assumption unless you confirm that you understand. After that you can then make reference to the multiple angles from multiple light sources which is another good discussion on its own. Maybe ask your dad for some help.
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You remind me of GrowLightResearch.
 
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