• Here is a link to the full explanation: https://rollitup.org/t/welcome-back-did-you-try-turning-it-off-and-on-again.1104810/

Chocolope leafs Curling down and dark underneath

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Thanks, I got the magnifier - but the problem is holding the thing steady on these little plants! It seems like if you move 1mm your a mile away. I am pretty sure that I don't have any bugs. I really hope it's not a virus - that's one thing that I hadnt even considered until you mentioned it earlier. Here are a few pics of my most vigorous plant - it's an Alaskan Ice and it's one of the plants with the new markings. Funny thing is that even though it's the biggest & burliest, the bottom two leaves have been kinda yellow for a while and the other leaves have always shown a little lighter green in the outline. Maybe you can see from the pics.
 

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That browning at the base of the leaf is on three of the plants - I wonder if that spray could have just been toxic to them and it really burned where it settled - low spots like that?
 
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alright, i hate to keep posting on my thread here but it seems taht more of the plants are starting to have that brown starting where the sections of the leaf come together. in some it is just right there at the joint and others it almost looks like it's "shooting" up the midle vein.
 
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the pics you just showed are not that bad at all i have had alot worse with them doing well.i really wouldnt worry to much as long as your giveing them light(how far is your light above plants)water/nutes and non stagnant air,you might want to mist them with a fine spray of pure water in case some residue is on the leaves.as for the light green im thinking nute burn.with your next watering just make sure you give them a thouroh watering with light nutes around 350 and make sure it runs out of the bottom,im not sure of your nutes but you said a buddy used it with out problems so ask what he gave his clones on their first feeding and that should be good for seeds at 3 weeks,but make sure it is balanced,equal npk,i find the first feeding the plants need alll of them in equal portions.but they look healthy enough to pull through with out any problems.
 
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trapper said:
the pics you just showed are not that bad at all i have had alot worse with them doing well.i really wouldnt worry to much as long as your giveing them light(how far is your light above plants)water/nutes and non stagnant air,you might want to mist them with a fine spray of pure water in case some residue is on the leaves.as for the light green im thinking nute burn.with your next watering just make sure you give them a thouroh watering with light nutes around 350 and make sure it runs out of the bottom,im not sure of your nutes but you said a buddy used it with out problems so ask what he gave his clones on their first feeding and that should be good for seeds at 3 weeks,but make sure it is balanced,equal npk,i find the first feeding the plants need alll of them in equal portions.but they look healthy enough to pull through with out any problems.
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Thanks for the encouragement. I actually rinsed them all of and put them in inderect (with air movement) light to dry off. Hopefully they'll be ok. I didnt get to transplant them but did mix the promix up with the nuted water (about 250). I got paranoid b/c not only was the water cool but the promix had been outside (40 degrees f) And I read your comment about the seedlings being dry so decided to wait. So, i guess I'll stick them in there and water with ph'd water to further reduce any possible toxicity from teh nutes. It's not 100% balanced it's:
Base: 3-10-19 Grow: 15 - 0 - 8 so I gues you'd average em out to 8-5-13.5? plus they have other mn's
here's a link to thier site: https://www.greenair.com/browse/genesis-micro-base.html

I also put in a tiny bit of greenfuse root stimulator.
 
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after reading their descriptions - I'm wondering if i shouldnt scrap all that soil and water I've mixed and use the bloom for the transplant? To this point the limited feeding i've done has been equal parts base and grow #2 (my buddy used one, but they've since added two and the place I ordered it from recomended it for any type of fast vegging.)

https://www.greenair.com/browse/elemental-fertilizer.html

whadya know - theyve got instructions! I was just going by what he said and it sounded like everything was just 1 for 1. JEez man I hope it's not too late. I think I'm just going to plant them in the soil with clean ph'd water with a little of the bloom, greenfuse and couple drops of superthrive to ease the transplant.
 
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its not to late,just follow the instrutions and use the root stimulator,does it have b1 not that i ever used it untill now,but i guess they cant hurt.your plants are healthy,a few glitches but healthy,they will be fine.
 
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the reason you want the soil to dry out before transplanting is so the root mass doesnt pull apart like when its wet,it takes an extra week or two for roots to recover some times when they tear apart.
 
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ya they have a pdf file with instructions how to use i dont know how to open those files but im sure they have the correct ratio for feeding seedlings,i think it is the same as tomatoe,im not sure how they match the feeding to type of plant if they have one for cannabis or not.but you want something close too 7-6-11 for the first feeding 7-3-7 dureing veg.
 
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any idea if there is an ideal time in the light cycle to re pot? Do you cut away any of the old roots? there seem to be varying thoughts on this
 
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just repot when the soil is dry enough,i never paid much attention to light cycle,but i wouldnt cut roots at all.
 
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trapper said:
just repot when the soil is dry enough,i never paid much attention to light cycle,but i wouldnt cut roots at all.
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It's done (7 of em) I've got em in 1 gallon containers spread out under two 600w mh (they're dimmable so i got em at 50%) and some led bars. I'm stoked and they were all root bound so I'm sure they'll be happy once they get over the initial shock. I'm almost positive that spotting was from the spray.
 
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overmyhead said:
It's done (7 of em) I've got em in 1 gallon containers spread out under two 600w mh (they're dimmable so i got em at 50%) and some led bars. I'm stoked and they were all root bound so I'm sure they'll be happy once they get over the initial shock. I'm almost positive that spotting was from the spray.
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right on,good show,your on your way now.if you have any questions just ask i check every day.
 
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trapper said:
right on,good show,your on your way now.if you have any questions just ask i check every day.
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Hey Trapper and whomever else is curious, The transplant seems to have gone well, no noticable shock (I think.) The reason i say I think is I have this mysterious scarring that seems to be taking place and some of the new growth looks like its getting chewed. I have looked an looked and cant seem to find anything.

I have a hard time getting good close ups with my camera but here are some pics of three of the plants that have this.

On a side, they are all diferent heights. Should I be topping them to the same height? I plan on super cropping before flower.
 

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you shoud top as needed not all at once,if others are taller and ready usually around the 4th node i top.but they look healthy,sometimes it looks like something is chewing when it isnt,i dont know what causes it.
 
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Thanks. I was thinking about doing a prevent of ed rosenthals zero tolerance at 50% (testing on on leaf first this time!) Maybe when the lights go off.

Also, if anyone else is looking - and you know who you are, I'm sorry I had to use the bags as I'm out of cash for now! But, I did a lot of checking around first and it seems like lots of folks have good results. Especially for transplanting them into the tubs, I can just put them in and cut the bags off.
 
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ya but i dont know what it is and it has never effected yield.it almost looks like when canker worms eat a leaf except i have found no bugs at all.
 
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ya but i dont know what it is and it has never effected yield.it almost looks like when canker worms eat a leaf except i have found no bugs at all.
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so how are things going,it must of picked up,or i hope it did,good luck.
 
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