Climate in the 21st Century

Bongoloid · Jan 2, 2023

DIY-HP-LED said:
Bearing in mind Elon is involved, so expect over promising! However EVs are much easier and cheaper to make than ICE vehicles, most of the cost is the battery and those prices have been plummeting as the options increase. A small plug in at home medium range EV under $10K would sell!

2024 Tesla Next-Generation Vehicle Should Sell For $12,500 After US Tax Credit - CleanTechnica

I explain why the next generation Tesla will be MUCH less expensive than expected and how Tesla can do this.

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Chevy Volt Battery Replacement Cost (Dealership Quotes) |

My Ev Enthusiasts are shying away from the Chevy Volt vehicles due to the absurd battery replacement costs. The steep price is the reason for…

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DIY-HP-LED · Jan 2, 2023

Bongoloid said:
Chevy Volt Battery Replacement Cost (Dealership Quotes) |

My Ev Enthusiasts are shying away from the Chevy Volt vehicles due to the absurd battery replacement costs. The steep price is the reason for…

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Electric Car Battery Replacement Costs

When it comes to electric vehicles and plug-in hybrids, many shoppers wonder how long it will be until they have to replace their battery. Then what will it cost to replace that battery?

www.recurrentauto.com

Chevy Volt Battery Replacement Cost

According to a 2020 Greencars report, 16 kWh Chevy Volt batteries cost ~$4,000 to replace, about $240/kWh.
A 2011-2015 Chevy Volt Remanufactured Battery Pack is priced at $6,000 at Greentec Auto. These batteries have 17.1 kWh of capacity, putting this price at $350/kWh in 2021 dollars. Sold with new modules, that same battery pack is priced at $8,000, placing it at $467/kWh in 2021.
For the 2016-2018 Chevy Volt, battery packs are priced at roughly $3,000 on ebay. These batteries are 18.4 kWh, equating to $163/kWh to $152/kWh.

cannabineer · Jan 2, 2023

DIY-HP-LED said:
Electric Car Battery Replacement Costs

When it comes to electric vehicles and plug-in hybrids, many shoppers wonder how long it will be until they have to replace their battery. Then what will it cost to replace that battery?

www.recurrentauto.com

Chevy Volt Battery Replacement Cost

According to a 2020 Greencars report, 16 kWh Chevy Volt batteries cost ~$4,000 to replace, about $240/kWh.

A 2011-2015 Chevy Volt Remanufactured Battery Pack is priced at $6,000 at Greentec Auto. These batteries have 17.1 kWh of capacity, putting this price at $350/kWh in 2021 dollars. Sold with new modules, that same battery pack is priced at $8,000, placing it at $467/kWh in 2021.

For the 2016-2018 Chevy Volt, battery packs are priced at roughly $3,000 on ebay. These batteries are 18.4 kWh, equating to $163/kWh to $152/kWh.

Which of these carry GM’s full warranty?

Bongoloid · Jan 2, 2023

DIY-HP-LED said:
Electric Car Battery Replacement Costs

When it comes to electric vehicles and plug-in hybrids, many shoppers wonder how long it will be until they have to replace their battery. Then what will it cost to replace that battery?

www.recurrentauto.com

Chevy Volt Battery Replacement Cost

According to a 2020 Greencars report, 16 kWh Chevy Volt batteries cost ~$4,000 to replace, about $240/kWh.

A 2011-2015 Chevy Volt Remanufactured Battery Pack is priced at $6,000 at Greentec Auto. These batteries have 17.1 kWh of capacity, putting this price at $350/kWh in 2021 dollars. Sold with new modules, that same battery pack is priced at $8,000, placing it at $467/kWh in 2021.

For the 2016-2018 Chevy Volt, battery packs are priced at roughly $3,000 on ebay. These batteries are 18.4 kWh, equating to $163/kWh to $152/kWh.

the packs are just composed of many similar small batteries, some places now change only the bad ones as opposed to the entire pack.

DIY-HP-LED · Jan 2, 2023

cannabineer said:
Which of these carry GM’s full warranty?

I would imagine they offer their own warranty. The cars out live the packs, so far and the price of battery cells has dropped significantly since they were made. This is and will be a thing for while at least as more EVs hit the roads, you can repack some old EVs fairly cheaply these days by shopping around.

cannabineer · Jan 2, 2023

DIY-HP-LED said:
I would imagine they offer their own warranty. The cars out live the packs, so far and the price of battery cells has dropped significantly since they were made. This is and will be a thing for while at least as more EVs hit the roads, you can repack some old EVs fairly cheaply these days by shopping around.

a “none” would have done.

injinji · Jan 2, 2023

BudmanTX said:
why is it 80 today....wtf and in January, and we just got out of an artic blast......this shit is screwy.......smh

The wife and I have been going back and forth about changing over to AC the last few days. So far we haven't, but we do have the fans going, and I live in my underwear unless we have company.

BudmanTX · Jan 2, 2023

injinji said:
The wife and I have been going back and forth about changing over to AC the last few days. So far we haven't, but we do have the fans going, and I live in my underwear unless we have company.

Xmas weekend we were down in the teens at night, think it was 16, something like that, highs just bove freezing, during the week it warmed up, by new years I was in a t-shirt, my favorite ripped shorts, and sandles....and now 80...highs during the week mid to high 70's...freaking roller coaster weather..

Heck during the summers here, I was just like u described in ur post, underwear, fan, kiddy pool...if the Temps are like that this weekend, might be just like that again...just a tad cooler weather....

injinji · Jan 2, 2023

BudmanTX said:
Xmas weekend we were down in the teens at night, think it was 16, something like that, highs just bove freezing, during the week it warmed up, by new years I was in a t-shirt, my favorite ripped shorts, and sandles....and now 80...highs during the week mid to high 70's...freaking roller coaster weather..

Heck during the summers here, I was just like u described in ur post, underwear, fan, kiddy pool...if the Temps are like that this weekend, might be just like that again...just a tad cooler weather....

We got down to 18F with that one. The lows stayed in the 20's for several nights. Now it's crazy hot. We do have a cold front coming in a day or two. One night the low will be in upper 30's, then back in 40's and 50's. I've got 2K pine tree seedlings coming in later in the week. I need cold, rainy weather for that. But I've found I have more help when it's nice, so I'll take that too.

Ozumoz66 · Jan 2, 2023

injinji said:
The wife and I have been going back and forth about changing over to AC the last few days. So far we haven't, but we do have the fans going, and I live in my underwear unless we have company.

It was -13°F just before Christmas when the wind roared for two days and we were without hydro for 19 hours. It's been 50°F a few times since then. We took advantage of the mild weather today to rake up some of the pine debris from the storm.

Things we'd not seen before in November included bumblebees, butterflies, grasshoppers, dragonflies and mayflies. That same month we harvested radishes, kale, spinach, carrots, tomatoes and peanuts - first for everything!

As a teen there was killer frost between the first and third week of September. Nowadays it doesn't freeze till mid November. Good for sativas I suppose.

Last year we had over 36" of rain in the second half of the year, which seemed to bring more plant diseases. This year we had less than a third as much rain. We used to cut grass 6 months a year - now it's 9.

I worry! Not just for future maple syrup production but also for my grandkids. And how the thin veneer of civility will be impacted by human migration due to climate change. I remain hopeful.

Who wears pants? When a parka and winter boots suffice to feed the chickens/cats and collect eggs. :grin:

injinji · Jan 2, 2023

The wife did turn on the AC in her end of the house. She is weird and insist on wearing clothes. I left the connecting door open, but haven't turned it on in my end.

BudmanTX · Jan 2, 2023

injinji said:
We got down to 18F with that one. The lows stayed in the 20's for several nights. Now it's crazy hot. We do have a cold front coming in a day or two. One night the low will be in upper 30's, then back in 40's and 50's. I've got 2K pine tree seedlings coming in later in the week. I need cold, rainy weather for that. But I've found I have more help when it's nice, so I'll take that too.

Yeah I saw a new front coming in...it won't effect me, highs upper 70's, lows in upper 50's, low 60's, moisture in the air, if I had a auto or 2, be the time...js.

Heck I still have baby tomatoes, and green peppers growing now...this shit's nuts...Texas go figure

DIY-HP-LED · Jan 3, 2023

Falling Solar Panel Prices In China Will Impact Countries Around The World - CleanTechnica

The cost of manufacturing a solar panel in China has plunged recently, thanks to lower prices for polysilicon.

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Roger A. Shrubber · Jan 3, 2023

DIY-HP-LED said:
Falling Solar Panel Prices In China Will Impact Countries Around The World - CleanTechnica

The cost of manufacturing a solar panel in China has plunged recently, thanks to lower prices for polysilicon.

cleantechnica.com

good...it would be good for them to be the leaders in at least one modern industry.
you don't want to try to freeze them out of everything, or they might be tempted to try to take everything...nor should they be. they should be offered ample opportunities to join the modern world, as quickly as possible. the more their citizens become used to the decadent western lifestyle, the more they'll resist giving it up. the more their economic futures are tied to the rest of the modern western world, the more they'll be drawn into that same world. i would much rather have china as a peaceful, willing neighbor, than a looming menace.
and the news is just good for the world. we could effectively build a solar farm right now in almost any major desert in the world that could supply energy for everyone. if we could do it for half the price, so much the better.
my question is why the fuck aren't we doing that? or at least building farms that will supply our national energy needs? we could replace EVERY oil and coal powered plant in the country, we could shut down aging facilities for sorely needed maintenance, and just keep regional centers for emergency use...so why the fuck aren't we doing that?

DIY-HP-LED · Jan 3, 2023

Roger A. Shrubber said:
good...it would be good for them to be the leaders in at least one modern industry.
you don't want to try to freeze them out of everything, or they might be tempted to try to take everything...nor should they be. they should be offered ample opportunities to join the modern world, as quickly as possible. the more their citizens become used to the decadent western lifestyle, the more they'll resist giving it up. the more their economic futures are tied to the rest of the modern western world, the more they'll be drawn into that same world. i would much rather have china as a peaceful, willing neighbor, than a looming menace.
and the news is just good for the world. we could effectively build a solar farm right now in almost any major desert in the world that could supply energy for everyone. if we could do it for half the price, so much the better.
my question is why the fuck aren't we doing that? or at least building farms that will supply our national energy needs? we could replace EVERY oil and coal powered plant in the country, we could shut down aging facilities for sorely needed maintenance, and just keep regional centers for emergency use...so why the fuck aren't we doing that?

This is just one area, efforts for rare earths, pharmaceuticals and chips are underway. A couple of years might see deep geothermal rise in importance, if things work out. I figure after the first deep borehole success, it will be an international rush and what happens to solar and wind then? So we need to cover several bets at once for now, but things could be much more clear in 5 years about where the future of energy production lies. Clean abundant electric power means electric everything, except for jet aircraft.

Battery Manufacturing Is Creating Lots & Lots & Lots Of Jobs - CleanTechnica

This article highlights the numerous battery manufacturing plants that are being constructed across the US to support EVs.

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cannabineer · Jan 3, 2023

Roger A. Shrubber said:
good...it would be good for them to be the leaders in at least one modern industry.
you don't want to try to freeze them out of everything, or they might be tempted to try to take everything...nor should they be. they should be offered ample opportunities to join the modern world, as quickly as possible. the more their citizens become used to the decadent western lifestyle, the more they'll resist giving it up. the more their economic futures are tied to the rest of the modern western world, the more they'll be drawn into that same world. i would much rather have china as a peaceful, willing neighbor, than a looming menace.
and the news is just good for the world. we could effectively build a solar farm right now in almost any major desert in the world that could supply energy for everyone. if we could do it for half the price, so much the better.
my question is why the fuck aren't we doing that? or at least building farms that will supply our national energy needs? we could replace EVERY oil and coal powered plant in the country, we could shut down aging facilities for sorely needed maintenance, and just keep regional centers for emergency use...so why the fuck aren't we doing that?

I got one word for you: night.

Roger A. Shrubber · Jan 3, 2023

cannabineer said:
I got one word for you: night.

yah got me Marge...i forgot that the flat earth sun is on a timer...

cannabineer · Jan 3, 2023

Roger A. Shrubber said:
yah got me Marge...i forgot that the flat earth sun is on a timer...

now if they can transmit many gigawatts from Algeria and Australia, it gets better.

Roger A. Shrubber · Jan 3, 2023

cannabineer said:
now if they can transmit many gigawatts from Algeria and Australia, it gets better.

that was an actual thought of mine, but that would be easily overcome with multiple smaller stations, positioned in appropriate areas as geography dictates, which would also offer redundancy, so maintenance and repairs could be carried out without interruption for the most part.
it also seems like it would do less environmental damage to have more, smaller facilities spread around, but the opposite could be true, existing statistics may offer a clue, comparing the environmental results of the largest current facilities with the results of other types of plants that have similar invasive footprints.

cannabineer · Jan 3, 2023

Roger A. Shrubber said:
that was an actual thought of mine, but that would be easily overcome with multiple smaller stations, positioned in appropriate areas as geography dictates, which would also offer redundancy, so maintenance and repairs could be carried out without interruption for the most part.
it also seems like it would do less environmental damage to have more, smaller facilities spread around, but the opposite could be true, existing statistics may offer a clue, comparing the environmental results of the largest current facilities with the results of other types of plants that have similar invasive footprints.

“overcome”?
How do smaller stations get you past the need for transoceanic transmission?

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