Climate in the 21st Century

Will Humankind see the 22nd Century?

  • Not a fucking chance

    Votes: 41 28.5%
  • Maybe. if we get our act together

    Votes: 35 24.3%
  • Yes, we will survive

    Votes: 68 47.2%

  • Total voters
    144

Drop That Sound

Well-Known Member

"Farms across Maine are discovering toxic PFAS chemicals in their soil and water. But the problem could impact millions of acres of farmland nationwide. "

Forever..
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus

"Farms across Maine are discovering toxic PFAS chemicals in their soil and water. But the problem could impact millions of acres of farmland nationwide. "

Forever..
N. b. the crap met all relevant government standards, both federal and state.

This tells us that there is no standard yet for this recently-recognized class of potent, persistent, cumulative poisons.

It’s a pretty solid punch in the gut for people dishonestly saying that we need less government “interference” in practices that ruin the land and people’s health. The neoliberal agenda is a death cult.

Just wait and see: the state will vigorously resist adopting any standards at all on this calamity. “It would be bad for businesses.”
 

Fogdog

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Hells Canyon Dam provides hydropower but also ended salmon runs across the state. So its not as if they don't embrace renewable energy in that state but it comes with blood price. Wind and solar could replace Hells Canyon dam's power but gets a big thumbs down. It's too clean I guess.


What a county commissioner said:

Hough, before voting against the ordinance, said, “The opening of the Declaration of Independence says that we have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Passing a no-solar ordinance denies individuals the basic right to pursue happiness because it is a red herring to the real issue of property rights. It has been said that passing an ordinance allowing people to consider such an option would be akin to letting the camel’s nose under the tent. And then where would it stop?”
Hough continued, “I would make the same argument the other way. If we allow the government to deny the opportunity for individuals to explore options, where does the insidious creep of government power stop? We have to have faith in the system.” :confused:


Twisted logic like that should qualify him for a MAGA SCOTUS appointment.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Hells Canyon Dam provides hydropower but also ended salmon runs across the state. So its not as if they don't embrace renewable energy in that state but it comes with blood price. Wind and solar could replace Hells Canyon dam's power but gets a big thumbs down. It's too clean I guess.


What a county commissioner said:

Hough, before voting against the ordinance, said, “The opening of the Declaration of Independence says that we have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Passing a no-solar ordinance denies individuals the basic right to pursue happiness because it is a red herring to the real issue of property rights. It has been said that passing an ordinance allowing people to consider such an option would be akin to letting the camel’s nose under the tent. And then where would it stop?”
Hough continued, “I would make the same argument the other way. If we allow the government to deny the opportunity for individuals to explore options, where does the insidious creep of government power stop? We have to have faith in the system.” :confused:


Twisted logic like that should qualify him for a MAGA SCOTUS appointment.
It would be interesting to get maga legislators to weigh in on a pretty pertinent question.

If government is such a bad thing, why did they spend millions each to become part of it?

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Sativied

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"Farms across Maine are discovering toxic PFAS chemicals in their soil and water. But the problem could impact millions of acres of farmland nationwide. "

Forever..
Big problem in Europe too:


 

Drop That Sound

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Big problem in Europe too:


Every single product or living thing world wide has some of the 10,000+ different kinds of PFAS now. Every single rain drop falling from the sky. Every lake , river or stream. Every fish. Every roll of toilet paper, to the point that every time you wipe your ass you are taking in a hit. Probably more concentrated than the free range chicken eggs.

Its over with.. We are done for, and it will never be cleaned up "forever". MAybe the salt water and tides will wash away most of it from that sewage covered beach in the article above, but I doubt it.. because the ocean itself is a source now.

If you think all of that is bad enough, wait until you here about frankenstein chemicals! Or the toxic nano particle systems they plan to filter the water plants with someday in the future.
 

OldMedUser

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Meanwhile . . .

Plastic makers lied about recycling for decades. What do we do next?

The plastic industry pushed recycling as a solution to waste, while internally dismissing it as technically and economically unviable.

For decades, plastic producers knowingly misled the public about the feasibility of plastic recycling, according to a recent study by the Center for Climate Integrity. The non-profit’s report details how the plastic industry marketed recycling as a solution to plastic waste for decades, all while dismissing it internally as both technically and economically unviable.

This may be a tough pill to swallow for those who grew up hearing about the virtues of plastic in ad campaigns (see: “plastics make it possible”). However, statistically, most plastic is either landfilled or burned—just about 9 percent is ever recycled, according to the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development, an intergovernmental group.


Crucially, the Center for Climate Integrity’s report is about plastic recycling—not all recycling. Other materials, such as paper and glass, statistically fare better when you toss them in the recycling bin. More than 68 percent of paper and paperboard was recycled in the U.S., according to 2018 EPA data, while glass has a recycling rate of about 31.3 percent.

 

Samwiseman420

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Wow, 1 measly billion dollars to protect a few water plants. That's sure gonna fix the problem...


Meanwhile..
Since you often say the earth is flat can we just start using the other side? It might have good dirt there.
 

Drop That Sound

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Some toxic waste sites are capped off with a tarp, and then a few feet of dirt on top. Then they say its good to go, and build new apartment complexes or kids playgrounds right over it.. I suppose its better than doing nothing though..
 

Drop That Sound

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Maybe we can create some kind of mutant parasites that feed off and convert it into batteries, or devise a new mRNA gene editing therapy sequence that will keep us from getting sick from it. I dunno yet, but I'll keep working on solutions..

For now though, considering they lie about recycling.. I'm just gonna keep hoarding all my plastics & jugs from now on. Then I'll strip them all up into huge spools of filaments so I can 3d print a massive bio-dome to live in and stay safe. Underground though, with advanced filtration systems and whatnot. Cannabis and hemp plants will create all the 02 I need to breath and light doobs. :bigjoint:

 
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Sativied

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Wow, 1 measly billion dollars to protect a few water plants. That's sure gonna fix the problem...

Meanwhile..
I don’t think measly and billion dollars go well together, that’s a large amount by any standard. Ok, maybe not when it comes to the costs of war but to spend 1 billion on water purification isn’t as easy as shooting a billion worth of bullets or rockets. Need the technology and the people, which is often a bigger challenge than shifting numbers we call money. There’s a ton of pilots and research projects related to at least purifying the drinking water, but yeah, it’s still not nearly enough. Especially since the main sources still exists and produce.


This timeline makes it clear that the harmful effects of certain PFAS and the responsibility of the chemical industry for PFAS contamination were already discussed in internal documents of the chemical industry decades ago.

The EU plans to ban all sources of pfas but that has such a major impact on several industries, including big pharma, that it’s goimg slower than usual for the already slow EU.

oh and I love my pfas free pans with ceramic coating…
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Maybe we can create some kind of mutant parasites that feed off and convert it into batteries, or devise a new mRNA gene editing therapy sequence that will keep us from getting sick from it. I dunno yet, but I'll keep working on solutions..

For now though, considering they lie about recycling.. I'm just gonna keep hoarding all my plastics & jugs from now on. Then I'll strip them all up into huge spools of filaments so I can 3d print a massive bio-dome to live in and stay safe. Underground though, with advanced filtration systems and whatnot. Cannabis and hemp plants will create all the 02 I need to breath and light doobs. :bigjoint:

like for Encino Man reference
 

Drop That Sound

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While some laugh at the theory of a flat earth, I am using it as the blue prints to construct my own small scale firmament dome, with mini islands shaped just like the continents. I'll even have little radio controlled cargo ships to send weed through the panama canal, to the inlaws that live over on the other continents.. unless it dries up for some reason. I'll just trench a new canal up through Mexico instead. Maybe go on vacation more often, which might only be 1500 feet away?. If I can pull it off there will be a nuclear powered HID sun and moon going around in circles, and be able to simulate the seasons pretty good.
 
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