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Stonironi

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Caregiving hasn't been taking away just yet but I do believe it might in the agenda of some politicians. I didn't hear about the 1000 growers that are in jail recently but if you meant over the years since the law was incepted, that would make a little more sense. For the next year a half it's going to be a free for all for all caregivers until the state gets the new law established. I still have a little optimism because caregivers will still be allowed to grow once the law takes effect but like I stated, I feel they will eventually try to remove the system since it will taking away from the dispensaries and these commercial growing facilities.
Yes I meant over the past years and from what I'm reading you need atleast 1 million in assets to even apply for a liscense. I know that caregivers legally can't get rid of there Meds to dispos anyway BUT they do for now . As soon as this law passes they will only get Meds from commercial growers . They will no longer accept caregiver Meds because all Meds are to be accounted for from seed to weed and sold . They know every dollar going in and out and where it's coming from. Sure you can sell under the radar and risk prison but that is not what you want to do ,I would hope .
 

kingzt

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Yes I meant over the past years and from what I'm reading you need atleast 1 million in assets to even apply for a liscense. I know that caregivers legally can't get rid of there Meds to dispos anyway BUT they do for now . As soon as this law passes they will only get Meds from commercial growers . They will no longer accept caregiver Meds because all Meds are to be accounted for from seed to weed and sold . They know every dollar going in and out and where it's coming from. Sure you can sell under the radar and risk prison but that is not what you want to do ,I would hope .
Where did you read that you need at least a million in assets? I don't think our state would blatantly show nepotism to the wealthy. I'm not saying they wouldn't but for it to be a requirement is nuts.
 

kmog33

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It is bad ! The truth of it is that California just did worse. Prop 64 is a policemans dream in Cali. Anything over an ounce on your person is a felony. 3 felonies in Cali and you do life in prison. How's that for legalization
Prop 64 does not affect medical patients or any part of prop 215. I still have all the same rights I did before as a medical patient. The new laws affect commercial growers and recreational users. Honestly not the biggest deal to me. Sucks for all these guys with big grows out here, but for all us personal growers /medical users have not been even the slightest bit affected. As a recreational user one should be stoked because they can now have up to an ounce legally and grow up to 6 plants that they could not before. This is literally only negative for people growing for money.

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Odin*

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Prop 64 does not affect medical patients or any part of prop 215. I still have all the same rights I did before as a medical patient.
No, the new law does effect both medicinal cannabis and patients. Under the new law, new protocol and stricter adherence to it will be implemented. It will become very difficult to obtain a Dr's rec. From what I here, you will require regular visits to a general physician who either writes you a "script", or feels that other alternatives should be explored. You will then take that script to a second Dr, one who already issues the rec's. This takes time and money. Also, without testing, documentation, and proof of "ailment", the vast majority of those holding recs will not be able to "renew" after 64 is initiated in '18.

On top of that, medicinal cannabis is going to be subject to the same regulations that will result in price increases, and is going to be taxed as well. It won't be taxed as high as recreational, but it is going to be taxed. It's all in writing.


As a recreational user one should be stoked because they can now have up to an ounce legally and grow up to 6 plants that they could not before.

Anyone of age that wanted to use medicinally, or recreationally, could get an annual rec for as little as $20. That rec allowed either 12 plants in veg, or 6 in bloom, and up to 8 ounces on their person.

I was shocked when I first went to get a rec. I brought X-rays, MRI's, Dr's diagnosis/prognosis, Orthopedic surgeon's d/p, and proof of an epidural (minor surgical procedure at the hospital). When I walked into the office it was just a bunch of "kids" bragging about how much they could smoke in a week.

It was essentially "Legal" before, but with the taxes at both ends (cultivation and sale), the cost of implementing state regulation, and 6 months in prison for having more than an ounce, CA has taken a huge step backward. The only entities to benefit from 64 is the State.
 

kmog33

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No, the new law does effect both medicinal cannabis and patients. Under the new law, new protocol and stricter adherence to it will be implemented. It will become very difficult to obtain a Dr's rec. From what I here, you will require regular visits to a general physician who either writes you a "script", or feels that other alternatives should be explored. You will then take that script to a second Dr, one who already issues the rec's. This takes time and money. Also, without testing, documentation, and proof of "ailment", the vast majority of those holding recs will not be able to "renew" after 64 is initiated in '18.

On top of that, medicinal cannabis is going to be subject to the same regulations that will result in price increases, and is going to be taxed as well. It won't be taxed as high as recreational, but it is going to be taxed. It's all in writing.





Anyone of age that wanted to use medicinally, or recreationally, could get an annual rec for as little as $20. That rec allowed either 12 plants in veg, or 6 in bloom, and up to 8 ounces on their person.

I was shocked when I first went to get a rec. I brought X-rays, MRI's, Dr's diagnosis/prognosis, Orthopedic surgeon's d/p, and proof of an epidural (minor surgical procedure at the hospital). When I walked into the office it was just a bunch of "kids" bragging about how much they could smoke in a week.

It was essentially "Legal" before, but with the taxes at both ends (cultivation and sale), the cost of implementing state regulation, and 6 months in prison for having more than an ounce, CA has taken a huge step backward. The only entities to benefit from 64 is the State.
As a legitimate medical user,. None of my freedoms have changed. The laws for medical cultivation are still 100sq ft for personal medical grows and whatever plant count to provide for your medical needs. The tax doesn't affect me as I am not buying or selling it. The law allows for up to an ounce of bud to be gifted(and I think maybe traded). The fact that the law is going to keep a few douchebag kids from getting their recs doesn't bother me at all. And now they don't need to. I'm still protected for I think six pounds under my rec. Dispensaries were already saying they were paying taxes/charging you for them out here so that's not new. It's a business just like any other. If you make money off it in our market, the govt is going to want a piece of it. Ita understood in every business was except this one. It makes me laugh sometimes. It's like people just want weed to be legal like... I actually cant think of anything comparable that isn't taxed really gnarly at somepoint. Every looked at CR-V on booze. It's an additional tax on top of your sales tax, and the business selling booze have to pay for special licenses to do so. Tobacco is the same. Makes sense weed would fall in this line. I know that in my personal standpoint and everything I've read about whether this affect me as a medical user under prop 215, this doesn't affect me or anything I am doing at all, and benefits a bunch of guys and girls I know that just like to smoke. Im not arguing that it's great or anything g like that, but it's nowhere near as bad as everyone seems to think or try to make it seem. Sorry to all you guys making money off bud that now have to pay taxes and be registered/regulated. It actually says big things about the progression of the industry as a whole in the us that so many states have recreational laws right now, even if they're kind of shitty. Let's compare it to prohibition....lol

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Vnsmkr

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Kmog as much I what you write sounds not too bad, I don't think you factor any of the knock on effects....anyway, not shit changed over where I am so things continue as they have for the last, well forever.
 

kmog33

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Kmog as much I what you write sounds not too bad, I don't think you factor any of the knock on effects....anyway, not shit changed over where I am so things continue as they have for the last, well forever.
I know that if you were acting under the protections of prop 215, you are still protected by proposition 215. Nothing changes for you. This proposition only affect commercial growers and recreational users. Medical users are exempt from the tax imparted by proposition 64.

" Patients who have a state medical marijuana ID card will be exempt from the state sales tax immediately, according to the State Board of Equalization. If you spend more than $100 per month on medicine, it should pay you to get a state ID card. State ID cards are available from county health departments; under Prop 64 the card fees are capped at $100 ($50 for Medi-Cal patien"
http://www.canorml.org/news/what_will_be_legal_and_what_wont_after_Prop_64

http://friendsofprop64.org/prop-215/

http://theleafonline.com/c/politics/2016/08/prop-215-rights-not-affected-prop-64/

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Jah Earth Collective

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Regulation (legalization) is bullshit, but I for one didnt expect any different. We live in a world where diseases are sold by the dozen, but you can buy a pill to regulate it, if you got the cash to buy that pill, if you are lucky.
Its a greedy fucking world we live in, and there was/is no way in hell that corporate interests would just allow this healing herb to get to the people FULLY where it needs to be, which is DEregulation.
All these props are just another means of control, but anyway, as Vnsmkr previously stated, things won't be changing anytime soon where I am. Carry on
 

kmog33

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Regulation (legalization) is bullshit, but I for one didnt expect any different. We live in a world where diseases are sold by the dozen, but you can buy a pill to regulate it, if you got the cash to buy that pill, if you are lucky.
Its a greedy fucking world we live in, and there was/is no way in hell that corporate interests would just allow this healing herb to get to the people FULLY where it needs to be, which is DEregulation.
All these props are just another means of control, but anyway, as Vnsmkr previously stated, things won't be changing anytime soon where I am. Carry on
I agree. I'm not arguing that prop 64 is good, but it is what it is. Medical patients need not worry any more than they do already.

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Vnsmkr

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Yeah brah, it is what it is as usual. I just wish we, as cannabis connoisseurs, would jump on that same page united as one (all of us) instead of trying to step on one another for a buck. This shit would have been solved already had that been the case. At least thats what my mind tells me
 

LamontCranston

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Below is a clone I was gifted years ago dubbed 'Yellow'. It comes from an older dude who for a long time did not want this plant to be shared. To my knowledge, she is a trainwreck/sour diesel cross resulting from a herm. I call it Golden Dream, formerly known as Yellow Diesel. It contains quite a bit of CBD and other goodies. When stressed it will produce herm flowers but if you keep her in good shape you're in for a treat. It has a lot of medicinal benefits, and a wonderful high. The first year or so with it I had no idea it was a high CBD strain, I just knew it gave a great lunch time buzz. Here is her cannabinoid and terpene profile. I am one of the two sole keepers of this beauty. =)

P.S. Sunrise Analytical sets the bar pretty high when it comes to analyzing cannabis. =p

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Vnsmkr

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Had a couple from my OG hybrid (first time bloom), wasn't sure what it was crossed with, now I know. Nose is real strong of fresh squeezed lime and fuel, a hint of cat piss nutty earth on the backend. It's OG hybrid x GG4. Plant structure is all from the OG hybrid, buds structure is 50/50 of the two.


Shit @Odin* looks like some serious fkn fire!!! I would like to roll in it, literally!
 

Vnsmkr

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Below is a clone I was gifted years ago dubbed 'Yellow'. It comes from an older dude who for a long time did not want this plant to be shared. To my knowledge, she is a trainwreck/sour diesel cross resulting from a herm. I call it Golden Dream, formerly known as Yellow Diesel. It contains quite a bit of CBD and other goodies. When stressed it will produce herm flowers but if you keep her in good shape you're in for a treat. It has a lot of medicinal benefits, and a wonderful high. The first year or so with it I had no idea it was a high CBD strain, I just knew it gave a great lunch time buzz. Here is her cannabinoid and terpene profile. I am one of the two sole keepers of this beauty. =)

P.S. Sunrise Analytical sets the bar pretty high when it comes to analyzing cannabis. =p

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Nice huh, 2 to 1, good stuff
 

bryangtho

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I was given a new strain about a week haft ago. Which a mate bred. Its cross with a THC Bomb and TGA Space dawg. One of my mates will not even grow it because of the smell. I was tolled that its a very fast at growing plant and that it produces huge buds. And that you can smell it from a mile away. And as I said this is 10 days oldDSC01633.JPG
 
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Rasta Roy

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Michigans laws just got fucked!! They are taking away caregivers rights to get rid of there medicine at all. Now you have to get a commercial growers liscense and the stipulations to get it have made it only possible for big business to get one . We are all screwed boys and girls !! Plus Detroit is not doing anything good so I don't know where someone got that crap . Detroit just shut down 250 dispensaries and put over 1000 growers in jail . All the dispos had to move several miles out of town . Yeah great things for Detroit and Michigan. Only if your a politician
Caregivers can still sell to their patients and can still transport the same amount of product. The laws that affect caregivers didn't change. The dispensaries need this kind of regulation, they are selling medicine. And no offense bro but if the dispensaries were where you were unloading your wares then you wouldn't be able to compete when the quality grower product starts rolling in. The patient to patient market has had the better bud (dispensaries don't pay enough to get anything but overages from cash croppers and newcomers who don't know better...at least here in the capital) since the first time they shut down the dispensaries.
 
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