Clones at Farmers Market???
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Serene Crystalline Green
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Serene Crystalline Green
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Indagrow magnetic induction lighting makes hid look like the work of a caveman. It puts out about 1/4 of the heat per watt and because of the conversion of energy into light this 4x reduction in heat equates to a 4x increase in photosynthetically active radiation (light energy that plants receive, PAR). I could go on and on about how amazing indagrow magnei induction lighting is: 10 year warranty on entire light including Pyrex bulb, pontoon kit offered that emulates the far red light that triggers plants to transition from light to dark period processes after the sun sets (this emulation of the natural transition plants experience between day and night, light and dark, allows plants to increase the time allotted for dark period processes by 1.5-2 hours (due to the fact that the plants are triggered into the dark period processes by fat red light post sunset as they would be in nature, whereas indoors when the lights abruptly shut down plants lag for 1.5-2hrs confused about where the light went without receiving the message conveyed by far red lght (730 nm) that informs the plants that its time for dark period processes. This increase in dark period processes leads to more tightly stacked intermodal development, denser and more numerous flower clusters, quicker flowering times, and much more. The plants really love these lights more than any others I've used or seen (led, hid, or cfl), and that's what matters right? Plus, the lights save thousands of dollars per year in electricity and bulb expense savings!!!
I cannot reccomend these lights enough, giddily wave farewell to the Phillips energy cartel and embrace the world beyond planned obsolescence with an open heart and open mind!
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P.s. I'm not a rep, just an exceptionally content customer.
hydrogregg
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BeaverHuntr
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I was thinking the same thing those lights look interesting but how do the buds look ??
BeaverHuntr
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They pretty much look like it.
CWinAZ
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They do look like happy plants. Nice, Gregg!
Lucius Vorenus
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is this your grow? i also would like to see buds. im very interested in induction but the fact they only have 400w and are so damn expensive kinda sucks.
AvonBarksdale
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I wouldn't go with induction lighting for bloom from all the different reviews I've read. Especially for the price.
hydrogregg
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Yep this is me and the plants. What I have learned with the induction lights is they work great for veg, but the same plants from the same batch of seeds, worked better with the 1000 watts vs. the inda-grow. The lights cost $800 new and i had them delivered to a local hydro shop. I see the cost now as high, but over 5 yrs (the life of the bulb) I'll save that much in buying a new bulb every yr.
The lights are 4 feet long and with a row of them on auto light movers I get good coverage.
I'm the retired guy having fun learning the biz in the pic below
Lucius Vorenus
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Yep this is me and the plants. What I have learned with the induction lights is they work great for veg, but the same plants from the same batch of seeds, worked better with the 1000 watts vs. the inda-grow. The lights cost $800 new and i had them delivered to a local hydro shop. I see the cost now as high, but over 5 yrs (the life of the bulb) I'll save that much in buying a new bulb every yr.
The lights are 4 feet long and with a row of them on auto light movers I get good coverage.
I'm the retired guy having fun learning the biz in the pic below
Fair enough. Good luck with your grows man. Keep us posted on the results.
Serene Crystalline Green
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They are most definitely not "just really expensive fluoros". You are mistaken and appear to be in need of further research. In particular, research the photosynthetically active spectrum of radiation as plants photoreceptors have evolved to receive light, then compare that PAR spectrum to the par spectrum provided by indagrow lights. No fluoros produce a spectrum like these lights and no fluoros and their bulbs have a 10 year warranty.
These are solely a couple shining characteristics of the indagrow lights that refute your statement of these lights just being expensive fluoros.
Hope everyone is having a blessed Saturday, 1ove!
1337hacker
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Yep this is me and the plants. What I have learned with the induction lights is they work great for veg, but the same plants from the same batch of seeds, worked better with the 1000 watts vs. the inda-grow. The lights cost $800 new and i had them delivered to a local hydro shop. I see the cost now as high, but over 5 yrs (the life of the bulb) I'll save that much in buying a new bulb every yr.
The lights are 4 feet long and with a row of them on auto light movers I get good coverage.
I'm the retired guy having fun learning the biz in the pic below
Those plants certainly look healthy to me. Can you comment on the light penetration of those lights? Those certainly seem like tall plants but is the light providing enough penetration for good bud formation even on the lower branches? What are your yields like per light / per sq. ft? I'd love to hear more. Thanks!
hydrogregg
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I almost hate to go over my nute schedule and yields because I'm sure someone here will tear me a new aaa-hole. I'm still learning and believe me it's been a trial and error challenge and the errors are ahead of the game
I use Ocean Forest for dirt and stick with the lucas formula with a few of my own twists (homemade tea and bud booster toward the end)
The light penetration on these lights isn't as good as the 1000 watt lights, so I've switched up and just use the inda-grows for Veg. On the crop above with 4 plants per light I got 10-1/2 and 11-1/2 oz per light, and the same plants under 1000 watt at the same time got 15 and 16-1/2 oz. per plant.
The buds looked the same on both grows but the 1000 watt buds were tighter and fuller. I'm not scientific enough to figure out yield per sq foot but I can see stick with big lights for flower.
Pics of the same crop above later in flower at 7 weeks. I run them for 9 weeks or so depending on how they look at the end, some longer some shorter.
I use Ocean Forest for dirt and stick with the lucas formula with a few of my own twists (homemade tea and bud booster toward the end)
The light penetration on these lights isn't as good as the 1000 watt lights, so I've switched up and just use the inda-grows for Veg. On the crop above with 4 plants per light I got 10-1/2 and 11-1/2 oz per light, and the same plants under 1000 watt at the same time got 15 and 16-1/2 oz. per plant.
The buds looked the same on both grows but the 1000 watt buds were tighter and fuller. I'm not scientific enough to figure out yield per sq foot but I can see stick with big lights for flower.
Pics of the same crop above later in flower at 7 weeks. I run them for 9 weeks or so depending on how they look at the end, some longer some shorter.
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1337hacker
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looks like you are getting it for sure:
Im using a perpetual set up... 600 - 800 watts of Flouro for veg, and it supplies 12k of Flower in separate rooms. I don't allow plants to get larger than 4 ft indoors if I can, as that's all a 1000w bulb is good for. Mainly I just top early and try to flip them when I think they will double into about a 3 -4 ft bush... this insures good bud penetration all the way down
Timing is key with this as you need your clones ready to start a new veg as soon as you move your veg to a new flower room.
This is the best way I have found to focus my power bills on the flower plants as opposed to the veg... sometimes I'm amazed at how much a little t5 flouro can do in veg state....
What's the footprint on one of those indagrows , how many plants could I veg in 1 gal pots you think?
What nute line are you using for the lucas formula? I like the 3-1-2 Ratio for Veg and flip and 1-2-2 for Flower using pure blend pro nutrients (a little costly) and molasses
edit: what strain is that?
Im using a perpetual set up... 600 - 800 watts of Flouro for veg, and it supplies 12k of Flower in separate rooms. I don't allow plants to get larger than 4 ft indoors if I can, as that's all a 1000w bulb is good for. Mainly I just top early and try to flip them when I think they will double into about a 3 -4 ft bush... this insures good bud penetration all the way down
Timing is key with this as you need your clones ready to start a new veg as soon as you move your veg to a new flower room.
This is the best way I have found to focus my power bills on the flower plants as opposed to the veg... sometimes I'm amazed at how much a little t5 flouro can do in veg state....
What's the footprint on one of those indagrows , how many plants could I veg in 1 gal pots you think?
What nute line are you using for the lucas formula? I like the 3-1-2 Ratio for Veg and flip and 1-2-2 for Flower using pure blend pro nutrients (a little costly) and molasses
edit: what strain is that?
Serene Crystalline Green
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I almost hate to go over my nute schedule and yields because I'm sure someone here will tear me a new aaa-hole. I'm still learning and believe me it's been a trial and error challenge and the errors are ahead of the game
I use Ocean Forest for dirt and stick with the lucas formula with a few of my own twists (homemade tea and bud booster toward the end)
The light penetration on these lights isn't as good as the 1000 watt lights, so I've switched up and just use the inda-grows for Veg. On the crop above with 4 plants per light I got 10-1/2 and 11-1/2 oz per light, and the same plants under 1000 watt at the same time got 15 and 16-1/2 oz. per plant.
The buds looked the same on both grows but the 1000 watt buds were tighter and fuller. I'm not scientific enough to figure out yield per sq foot but I can see stick with big lights for flower.
Pics of the same crop above later in flower at 7 weeks. I run them for 9 weeks or so depending on how they look at the end, some longer some shorter.
So, you yielded 10.5-11.5 oz on each 420w indagrow compared to 15-16.5oz under each 1000w hid which costs 4-5x as much electricity and $150-600 in yearly bulb replacements? The indagrow lights yield 25-75% more with the pontoon kit that provides red light during the day and the far light sundown effect to trigger the plants into dark period processes. This 25-75% increase in yield is due to the tighter internodal development, thicker branching, and more robust flowering provided by an extra 1.5-2 hours of dark period proccesses each night.
If I'm understanding your comparisons correctly then you averaged about .75ish grams per watt with the energy efficient, durable and long lasting indagrows in comparison to .45ish grams per watt from the energy cartel's inefficient 800*F 1000w high intensity discharge lights.
Research the peer reviewed studies that pertain to this topic and you'll have a perspective much less tainted by the energy Carter's deluding Ponzi scheme.
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