Hey thanks babygro. I kinda knew it wasn't a nutrient persay but the fact that it reccomended such a high amount to add to a liter was a little scary to say the least, most stages require half that if not less. It has very low NPK #'s. I will do a side by side test in the future but I have to get these clones done and I can't fool around with them right now, I'm trading them for some other clones so I have to be careful for the time being. I will do a test in a week or two though. Thanks for youe time...you rock as usual.