Cloning for early sex determination

How much time is gained to detect sex by cloning all seedlings and putting clones on 12/12 from the get go?

I know there is also space management benefit like earlier male disposal, but this is not my concern, I'd like to know if cloning for sex is worth the trouble for a casual grower of a few plants.

Feminized seeds would end that problem.
You can clone for sex when ever you want, as long as the plant is big enough to survive taking a clone from it.
You can have your plant tested by a company in Montana to check for sex.

Trousers said:

Feminized seeds would end that problem.
You can clone for sex when ever you want, as long as the plant is big enough to survive taking a clone from it.
You can have your plant tested by a company in Montana to check for sex.

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Sorry dude, I am not sure if you red my post. I did not ask "when" to take clones for sex, or anything about feminized seeds.

I want to know HOW MUCH TIME IS GAINED by sexing clones to determine males disposal, and

IS IT WORTH bothering for casual grower of a few plants.

Hope I expressed myself clearly.

Settle down, I left it open ended as you did not supply specifics.
What do you mean by time saved?
For the most varieties you want to veg until the plant shows maturity/sex anyway.

If you can grow well your plant will be ready to take a clone from sooner than if you make some mistakes.
You could probably clone a plant when it is 10 or 12 days old if you have a good environment and good growth, but that may hurt the little girl.

After you clone it might take a week or two to find out sex.
A week after that many varieties would show sex.

I do not know if it is worth the trouble, unless you have a clone set up. If you have a clone set up, why not use clones and not worry about sex? Why not start out with feminized seeds and not go through all the trouble?


Here is a place that will test it for you
http://montanabiotech.com/2011/07/19/what-is-the-best-way-to-sex-cannabis-marijuana-plants-polymerase-chain-reaction-pcr-and-gel-electrophoresis-gender-determination/

I've used cloning to eliminate males. I did it mainly to save on light and space rather than time, but I'm just guessing it does save a couple of weeks at least. Like Trousers said, you can root and flower clones in 2 or 3 weeks, if you have a good setup and know what you're doing. Once you get rid of the males, the women can get more light and TLC, which should bump up their yields. Another thing, getting rid of the males will definitely save time on future grows because you'll have female clones and you won't have to worry about watching out for male flowers quite as much. But don't forget, hermies happen.

Ive never really understood how the cloning to determine sex technique is supposed to help or save time. A plant grown from seed will show preflowers in veg usually a little after a month or , I dont see how taking a clone off it and flowering it would be faster.

I found some bag seed of some fire. ill be taking a clone then throwing it into flower to see if its a she or a he. now to find room in my flower room, which is all filled up with my current grow.

BustinScales510 said:

Ive never really understood how the cloning to determine sex technique is supposed to help or save time. A plant grown from seed will show preflowers in veg usually a little after a month or , I dont see how taking a clone off it and flowering it would be faster.

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That is partial answer to my question. I posted this question about cloning to early determine sex of seed grown plants, in order to throw males away (saving time and money) and as a bonus have some extra female clones for growing which is optional.

Seems I have to find it out myself, cause there is lots of beating about the bush here, not straight answers.

But if clones show sex at the same time as plants, or later there is no point of cloning to determine sex.

Take 2-3 cuttings of each and leave those in veg.

You can just flower the mothers/fathers and leave the clones in veg for later.

You'll add on 2-3 weeks or more if you go the clone testing route. The fastest way to go is to just flower everything you have now.

Kill the cuttings in veg associated with fathers, and label the mothers and her clones so you know which pheno is which.

Female seeds would have made this first go a lot smoother and more efficient. I love em.

Thanks for straight answer churchhaze, you confirmed my suspicion that it is not worth to early sex clones for the sole purpose of sexing seedlings, obviously clones will not bloom before parents unless you do extra long vegging time on original seedlings.

church is correct. cloning for sexing is completely useless and anyone who suggests this route is nearsighted and doesn't know how to spot preflowers. i can verify sex usually before 4-5 weeks from seed while still in veg
To make the best use of time and costs....grow out your seed and take 2-4 cuttings as soon as the lower branches allow this many to be taken(about 1 month from seed) and then put it into flowering. You will also be able to take a few more cuts during the first 2 weeks of flowering. This will save time. It will save space too if you are in the selection process, considering undesirable genetics wont take up too much room since it was flowered early.
Another way you will save ALOT of space this way is because you won't have to wait a month or two (time for clones to root + veg time + 2-3 weeks of flowering time to verify sex) of having males sit around taking up grow space and electricity costs.

BustinScales510 said:

Ive never really understood how the cloning to determine sex technique is supposed to help or save time. A plant grown from seed will show preflowers in veg usually a little after a month or , I dont see how taking a clone off it and flowering it would be faster.

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THAT ^^^^^^^^^ +rep

You might save a week, perhaps 2. Now, if the plant is slow to show pre flowers, like after 5 weeks, then it is worthwhile. I've had that happen. Not often, but it does happen.

Simple way is to cut a clone, put in a glass of water and put in a 12/12 situation. It will stay alive long enough to show sex and that's all you need.

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well my bag seed is about ready to toss into flower. issue is, im jammed pack full in my flower room for at least 4 more weeks. might try the cut a clone and 12/12 trick. now just try to raise the little it (hope its a fem) to get some light. 6 plants (5' tall) in 5 gal pots in a 4x4x7 tent doesn't leave a lot of room for anything.