cloning

wrighty

Active Member
when taking clones i have decided to try the plastic cup water and clingfilm method

so put the water in the cup
clingfilm over the top
then poke a small hole in cling film
place clone so stem is in the water

however have i got to use rooting gel on the clone before i put it in the water?
 

wrighty

Active Member
WATER CLONING

Water cloning is the simplest of all techniques, it involves no chemical hormones, doesn't cost any money
and is the quickest method to apply. It's only down falls are that it can take longer for roots to develop on your cutting and the success rate is not as high as using other methods that require chemical hormones, although this method can be used using basic and common things found in almost every home, which is a bonus!

Materials:

(1) 1 medium sized Cup: You will have to use a larger cup for larger cuttings.
(2) Water: Tap water is fine, it should be at room temperature.
(3) Cling wrap: Any brand is fine, for example Glad Wrap, etc.
(4) Scissors: Any sharp implement capable of cutting effectively is fine.
(5) Cutting: Must be fresh and approximately 10cm in length.

Instructions:

(1) Before we start we need a medium sized cup filled with approximately 3/4 of tap water.
The method works best if the water has been prepared roughly 15-20 minutes before we start,
this is so the water is at or near room temperature and the cutting will take up the water easier.

(2) Once the water has warmed slightly, we now cut a square piece of cling-wrap big enough to cover the top of the cup and wrap it over the top. If your worried the cling-wrap will come loose, use a rubber band or sticky tape to secure it.

(3)Now we take a cutting from the (hopefully) mother plant.
The cutting should be cut at a 45-degree angle and roughly 10cm in length and come from a healthy branch.
The cutting can be taken from either the bottom or middle of the plant, we won't take them from the top because that's were our best and most potent buds will grow. If you make the cutting too short, the stem will become soft over time and it will fail to root or die.

(4) Using a pointy thin object, such as the tip of the scissors and poke a hole in the top of the cling-wrap just smaller than the stem of the cutting. This is so the cutting will not fall through and so it fits in the hole snug and tight.

(5)Place the cutting in the newly made hole, making sure atleast 4cm is in the water.
Now we can place the fresh cutting near a window in a semi-shaded spot or place it under a weak fluorescent light.

Tips & Info:

It usually takes 2 weeks for roots to form, sometimes 3 weeks.
If your cutting has not rooted by this time, it may never form roots and you should discard it.

Cuttings can drink a lot of water, so be sure to check up on it every 3-4 days and add more water
if necessary.

Never give your cuttings full strength light, they are not yet strong enough to deal with the heat
and they will dry out quickly if you do.

Cuttings do poorly in cold places, so make sure it's in a warm area.


Happy cloning.
The simplest and easy way.
The best way for beginners and the like.
 

CannaChameleon

Active Member
This may work... only in the same way that sticking a cutting in soil generally works after some time. Im keen to see how this works out, the only problem i can forsee is that the roots will be exposed to light through the clingfilm, they wont like that at all. Ive always used clonex and jiffy pellets, had virtually 100% success (in fact i think 100% rooting success, but some runts in the mix) so i would say that if you want a foolproof method, thats the way to go.
all the best, ill stay tuned.
cannachameleon
 

mouse

Well-Known Member
I would agree with MrStickyScissors. Cloning is one of those things its easy when you know how.

My personal method goes like this :

1. cut a clone at least 4 nodes down from the top of the branch, ensuring its cut from as low on the plant as possible (the tops have too much flowering hormone). Ensure the clone is about 10 cm long (ish)
2. Cut off 3 of the nodes and make a 45 degree cut just below lowest node you trimmed. Dip in clonex.
3. Place into medium, you can use all kindsa stuff. I personally use Rockwool Cubes or Root riots.
4. Keep them in a warm and humid environment. (I use an x-stream 36 site prop with the sprinklers turned off and the heater turned on(the sprinklers go on once or twice a day to wet the rockwool and circulate the water)) I used to use a normal prop then a heated one then I switched to the x-stream and it rocks.
5. Wait until you see roots - Do a happy dance
6. When you see new growth forming repot into desired medium ( I plant from here into a mix of biobizz all mix and gold label special mix, its a pretty hot mixture but they dont seem to mind once they are rooted)

I hope this helps as I am not so sure about the cup and clingfilm (it works, I know it works I have done it before, it takes ages and the success rate is very low).

Hope this helps,

Mouse
 

mouse

Well-Known Member
After I take my clones they look healthy as for 3-4 days then the colour drains from some of the leaves as they push out a root system and it looks like they are a little unhealthy then they perk up and ZOOM ZOOM !

I used to use a prop and a windowsil with some potting compost and that worked. I just found that root riots/rockwool were much easier.

If your cuttings died then you need to try again. You will kill a fair few before you get the knack, check out the seemorebuds videos or jorge cervantes series, they have some excellent sections on taking cuttings :)

Hope this helps.

Mouse
 

mouse

Well-Known Member
For some reason 'Push out a root system' made me giggle I had this image of one of my girls sat on the toilet trying to squeeze one out !

Yet again, high from last night.

Ahh well such is life

Mouse
 

CannaChameleon

Active Member
sorry, should have quoted wrighty "i tryed using clonex and jiffy pellets but the clones just dried out and died "

that can happen, but its not altogether a bad thing, roots tend to grow slightly faster and stronger if they are given a chance to dry out, the roots grow in search of water. Jiffy has recently brought out a new product (coco pellets) and they dry out double time, Ive had good results but they definately require care and attention.
 

mouse

Well-Known Member
Ahh no wonder they died. My friend did that recently with 20 critical mass I gave him. I was not happy to say the least. Get a propargator preferably a heated one and just keep it on the windowsil or under some CFL's until they get roots and new growth. Tent conditions kill clones.

Hope this helps.

Mouse
 

cues

Well-Known Member
I use a ROOT!T kit with the plugs, rooting gel and a heated propagator on a north-facing windowsill. Also, I spray the cuttings with water from an atomizer every day. Pretty much get 90% success, although it can take up to 5 weeks.
 

MrStickyScissors

Well-Known Member
new room shot.jpgclone tray.jpgi love the root riots. i like them better than the rapid rooters for sum reason looks like the same thing tho. you need you clones in a dome to build up humidity for at least the first 5 days to be safe. if you see them start to droop make sure you have water in the bottom of your tray but not so much that your plugs are sitting in it. put a hot towel over the dome it will help with the humidity if there limping. also putting a heating pad on a timer to come on every 4 to 6 hours for a hour will help evaporate sum of the water in the tray and build up humidity without forgeting that your heating pad is pluged in and frying your plants. run a t5 bulb thru your dome that works well. as you see in the pic i run two bulbs thru the dome only on stubbern strains that tend to no root
 

wrighty

Active Member
i got my self a propagator so i have

taken cuttings about 4 nodes down
cut at an angle with a new scalpal
dipped in clonex
put in jiffy pellet
put in propagator
sprayed with clone start

but after 3 days the clones are starting to droop except one is this normal
 
Top