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Club 315w lec

MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Just a 315 LEC observation for everyone interested in these. With pics of course. :-)

Here is a Blue Lemon Thai from seed. I have seen this pheno before. It is a viney stretchy pain in the ass and yields real big lemony sativa looking buds.

Under the 600 Super HPS loaded reflectors she usually takes 3-4 weeks to show her first blooms.

She also keeps growing most of the way through an up to 12 week bloom. And I have to constantly supercrop and stake and tie her to manage.

This one under the 315 took 2.5 weeks and although I have supercropped her. Only 3 branches so far.

Her nodes are tighter than usual as well. She can be a stretchy girl.

Finish time if I ripen under the 315 has been up to 10 days shorter than average to truly finished.

I will report on her progress but have a feeling she will stay much more compact than the last ones and finish early with huge frosty buds.

I love these plants. I am getting a bit carried away on veg time for my room though. She is in a 3 gallon nursery pot. I use them to limit size. Lol.

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MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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And the 3 different bulb flower room tonight.

I have thinned out the number of plants to increase air flow and growing space each.

I plan to move up to 5 gallon pots and run less larger plants trained in veg like the one I posted above.

And next configuration so far from what I have seen is 2 600 super hps' in the blockbusters with the SS 315 LEC in the middle. All over a 4x8 area.

I have lost too much density and gained a bit too much leaf and lost a little yield with the blue metal halide and the LEC so I want to put the ratio back but with more overlap.

I do still have to build a room in my basement so it will be a while.

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MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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One more update with bud porn included.

The Hortilux Blue Metal Halide is a fantastic bulb. I bet it is amazing for big veg. It's buds have the frost and colors almost as much as the 315 and a larger footprint too.

If I still used only the 2 air cooled set up I would likely still use 1 of these and 1 Super hps for quality and yield.

Here is a Blue Lemon Thai going purple some.

The buds are huge and solid. But they are not as dense and heavy as the Super hps can grow. But the quality it brings to the table is obvious just looking.

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mr. childs

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MichiganMedGrower said:
The Hortilux Blue Metal Halide is a fantastic bulb. I bet it is amazing for big veg. It's buds have the frost and colors almost as much as the 315 and a larger footprint too.

The buds are huge and solid. But they are not as dense and heavy as the Super hps can grow. But the quality it brings to the table is obvious just looking.
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how was the heat of the hortilux bmh compared to your past usage of the shps ?
 
ilovetoskiatalta

ilovetoskiatalta

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MichiganMedGrower said:
Mine does not wobble. The outer jacket is tight. I would contact Phillips. I would not run bulbs like that without the manufacturers ok.

@DemonTrich or @ilovetoskiatalta have you guys contacted anyone?

I seriously would have returned the whole set up if I had seen this problem on a return bulb too.
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@MichiganMedGrower @DemonTrich I called philips and sent it back just to see what they say...I don't care about the $100.00 I do care about safety. I have no problem with the ballast/hood from hydrofarm. It is the second generation ballast and this is in a veg tent so I do not need this bulb. I was just wondering if anyone else had this problem.
fyi philips wanted pics of the bulb and the hood, asked if it was vert or horizontal.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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ilovetoskiatalta said:
@MichiganMedGrower @DemonTrich I called philips and sent it back just to see what they say...I don't care about the $100.00 I do care about safety. I have no problem with the ballast/hood from hydrofarm. It is the second generation ballast and this is in a veg tent so I do not need this bulb. I was just wondering if anyone else had this problem.
fyi philips wanted pics of the bulb and the hood, asked if it was vert or horizontal.
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Please report what they say. Thanks.
 
ilovetoskiatalta

ilovetoskiatalta

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Update on philips bulb. They sent me a label I sent them back the bulb, they contacted me and said they were going to send me a check for a replacement bulb and they said I should not use any bulb that is in any way loose. They cited arcing. They did not test my bulb yet and they said it would take six weeks. They are sending a check out this week.

I just wanted to say that I am pleased with their customer service.

@MichiganMedGrower @DemonTrich @Bad Karma
 
all coco

all coco

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ilovetoskiatalta said:
Update on philips bulb. They sent me a label I sent them back the bulb, they contacted me and said they were going to send me a check for a replacement bulb and they said I should not use any bulb that is in any way loose. They cited arcing. They did not test my bulb yet and they said it would take six weeks. They are sending a check out this week.

I just wanted to say that I am pleased with their customer service.

@MichiganMedGrower @DemonTrich @Bad Karma
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Thanks for the report I think I will buy some new bulbs and contact them about mine that loosened upon installation
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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ilovetoskiatalta said:
Update on philips bulb. They sent me a label I sent them back the bulb, they contacted me and said they were going to send me a check for a replacement bulb and they said I should not use any bulb that is in any way loose. They cited arcing. They did not test my bulb yet and they said it would take six weeks. They are sending a check out this week.

I just wanted to say that I am pleased with their customer service.

@MichiganMedGrower @DemonTrich @Bad Karma
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Thanks man. Super informative and helpful posts. I wonder how many loose bulbs are burning over plants out there right now.
 
Bad Karma

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MichiganMedGrower said:
Thanks man. Super informative and helpful posts. I wonder how many loose bulbs are burning over plants out there right now.
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That is literally my only complaint with LEC is that the bulbs do not screw in, or out, very easily. I literally broke a bulb in my hand once trying to screw it in further because it still felt loose. When I screwed in the replacement bulb I ordered, no problem. Both were the same model bulb from Phillips, so I wonder if they've quietly made some minor adjustments to the more recently made bulbs to alleviate the "loose" issue?
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Bad Karma said:
That is literally my only complaint with LEC is that the bulbs do not screw in, or out, very easily. I literally broke a bulb in my hand once trying to screw it in further because it still felt loose. When I screwed in the replacement bulb I ordered, no problem. Both were the same model bulb from Phillips, so I wonder if they've quietly made some minor adjustments to the more recently made bulbs to alleviate the "loose" issue?
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Mine felt funny the first time I screwed it in. But when I looked at the 2 nuts that secure it to the socket (base?) I could see I was doing it backwards.

Is it possible we are breaking the jacket and not noticing if we try to turn it in wrong?

You obviously tried so hard against the stop it broke the glass.
 
Bad Karma

Bad Karma

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MichiganMedGrower said:
Mine felt funny the first time I screwed it in. But when I looked at the 2 nuts that secure it to the socket (base?) I could see I was doing it backwards.

Is it possible we are breaking the jacket and not noticing if we try to turn it in wrong?

You obviously tried so hard against the stop it broke the glass.
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I make sure everything is lined up correctly before I start turning anything. As far as I know, righty-tighty, and lefty-loosey, are still in effect.
It's not like the bulb exploded in my hands from the shear might of my strength, which is mighty, mind you. No, it felt loose, so I tried to turn it a little further, and the base of the bulb cracked.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Bad Karma said:
I make sure everything is lined up correctly before I start turning anything. As far as I know, righty-tighty, and lefty-loosey, are still in effect.
It's not like the bulb exploded in my hands from the shear might of my strength, which is mighty, mind you. No, it felt loose, so I tried to turn it a little further, and the base of the bulb cracked.
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It was the mighty strength thing that had worried me. :-)

I meant the big and little nut were lined up backwards not turning the wrong way. So it doesn't pop in the grooves correctly. And then the mighty strength thing.

I really did fiddle with mine for a bit before I got it in there right. I could have easily done what I just described I think.
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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Bad Karma said:
I make sure everything is lined up correctly before I start turning anything. As far as I know, righty-tighty, and lefty-loosey, are still in effect.
It's not like the bulb exploded in my hands from the shear might of my strength, which is mighty, mind you. No, it felt loose, so I tried to turn it a little further, and the base of the bulb cracked.
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MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Yodaweed said:
You think their 4/20 sale will be bigger? I been waiting for a good deal to buy that phantom cmh reflector to replace my blockbuster, i think the vertical hung light for cmh works better than how i have it horizontally.
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The got my SS and galaxy set up for this price on Black Friday. I have not seen more than 15% off all year. But who knows?

The galaxy ballast. SS remote reflector and a Phillips bulb is 350 shipped to mi. I may grab one for veg.
 
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