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bajafox · May 9, 2011

dr green dre said:
How long did them clones take to root? do they root quicker that way than in pellets or rockwool baja? Looks good to me bro

Thanks, these are going on about 16 days or so. When temps go up they take longer and it also depends a lot on the strain. Some strains root almost twice as fast as others. I don't have any experience with pellets or rockwool, sorry, I couldn't really give you much of an educated opinion...

curious old fart said:
baja
nice set up.

Thanks cof, I only tried cloning in FFOF once with no success but it was at the same time that I was running my bubbleponics with great success so I never bothered to try it again... I saw a tutorial on soil cloning last week and it left me wanting to try again, it'll save me the effort of having to transplant, hahaha, I'm kinda lazy sometimes... :leaf:

curious old fart · May 9, 2011

Those are rooted clones in the soil experiment. I use the seed starter to root clones (and start seeds). Most soils are to hot for clones. I burned the shit out of a few before I figured that out.

:peace:

cof

billcollector99 · May 9, 2011

I get roots in 6-7 days using clonex and rapid rooters, same concept as COF but i dont like messing with loose soil when starting seeds or clones anymore...

curious old fart · May 9, 2011

That's the beautiful thing about cloning (as in growing) there are several ways to accomplish our goals. Just choose the one that you are comfortable with and works best for you.

:peace:

cof

littlegrower2004 · May 9, 2011

yeah i figure next time i clone ill be switching from rockwool to some kind of plugs and will soak the clones in water before since it seems a lot of you guys have good rates with doing this. another grower i follow also sprays his plants with a mollasses foliar feed a couple days before taking the clones and swears that this helps.

Dezracer · May 9, 2011

Hey Baja, seeing it posted reminded me that one of my bulbs other than the horti is a sunmaster super hps or enhanced spectrum or whatever they call it. The other two are of another brand that was mentioned on here a while back but I can't remember what the brand is. They were a lot less expensive than the sunmaster or hortilux though and it's hard to say if I see any difference between the sunmaster and the cheaper ones to be honest with ya bru.

He and I were discussing this via txt earlier whilst I was at work.

Dezracer · May 9, 2011

I'm a terrible 600 member these days. I do lurk to keep up but can't seem to remember to snap shots of my ladies to share with the class. I suck and I am aware of it so no need to jump my shit for it, LOL.

The Blue Widow girls (18 of them) have blown up and become a bit top heavy so I had to tie string to hooks screwed into the ceiling to hold them up. I chopped a dozen or so plants the other day and the 1000watt light is now down so I've got three 600s running in flower and a 600 in veg with a HTG supply MH conversion bulb in it that the plants really seem to love. My tent is full of plants that are involved in some breeding junk that are NYPD, Papaya, Herijuana, Afghan Kush x RBC, JDB, Blue Widow and Bubba Kush. I have a bunch of pollen and will be painting some of the Heri, JDB and NYPD as soon as I have some decent female flowers to paint

Dezracer · May 9, 2011

littlegrower2004 said:
yeah i figure next time i clone ill be switching from rockwool to some kind of plugs and will soak the clones in water before since it seems a lot of you guys have good rates with doing this. another grower i follow also sprays his plants with a mollasses foliar feed a couple days before taking the clones and swears that this helps.

I went from RW cubes to RW macro plugs to rapid rooters and have to say the rapid rooters have worked awesome for me so far. No need to ph them, they're moist in the bag and i have yet to have a single problem using them. I am just using some rooting powder on the cutting and sticking it straight into the rapid rooter and then into the tray with the insert. I don't use a dome anymore now that I have the little clone box I made from the shelf unit and humidity stays in the 85-95% range with a single 4" vent in one corner of the box. Seem to be getting roots in the 7-10 day range but leave them in the tray and box for a full 14 days before putting them into a hydro system to veg for 1 week and then into flower. Working great so far so I don't see changing anything anytime soon.

Hope I've helped someone a little in some way here so I feel useful to the club, hehe

duchieman · May 9, 2011

Hey Dez, are those budget bulbs your talking about Artemis or Britemore? I remember that chat about bulbs and that's what I'm running and thinking of trying a higher end bulb sometime to see if there's a difference. Curious to see if you already done that.

bajafox · May 9, 2011

Dezracer said:
Hey Baja, seeing it posted reminded me that one of my bulbs other than the horti is a sunmaster super hps or enhanced spectrum or whatever they call it. The other two are of another brand that was mentioned on here a while back but I can't remember what the brand is. They were a lot less expensive than the sunmaster or hortilux though and it's hard to say if I see any difference between the sunmaster and the cheaper ones to be honest with ya bru.

He and I were discussing this via txt earlier whilst I was at work.

I'm pretty much convinced that ANY new bulb will be better than the one I have, it has to be at least 9 months old. Unless I read wrong, they should be changed about every 6 months or so. There is definitely a noticeable dim from when I first started using it...

billcollector99 · May 9, 2011

curious old fart said:
That's the beautiful thing about cloning (as in growing) there are several ways to accomplish our goals. Just choose the one that you are comfortable with and works best for you.

cof

I agree, I wasnt trying to say one way is better than the other

I say find what works for you and if you have good results than there ya go

bajafox · May 9, 2011

billcollector99 said:
I agree, I wasnt trying to say one way is better than the other I say find what works for you and if you have good results than there ya go

So true. There are so many ways to clone that have a high rate of success, just gotta find the one that works for you. I saw a guy who put 2 clippings in a mason jar with water by the window and 10 days later they rooted, pretty crazy :leaf:

1badmasonman · May 9, 2011

Burning a fat spliff of some blueberry headband jammin

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Speaking of cloning here ayyy

Just happens to be one of my better expertise

I havent shown off my newest creation yet but i modified my original caddy cloner with one of the huge airpumps from my hydro grow and also adopted superthrive as my anti yellowing agent. Let me tell you folks this last round of yins is the best ive ever put out yet. Super Thrive really is all that shit they claim to be :lol:

They really hype up there product right on the freaking bottle but i have to say having seen many yins rooted hydro style this shit really works.

Like cof i too have have gone to cloning the old fashion way with the same results minus the electric bill and equipment. By the way cof i quite enjoyed that pictorial bru.

My method works well to put out a shit load and is not recommended unless you know yourself quite well

1BMM

Shwagbag · May 9, 2011

Great info on cloning everyone thanks for sharing so many ideas. Exactly right, so many different ways and I've really struggled with cloning in my setup. I think a major problem I have is too much light/heat drying out and burning up my clones. The last couple rounds I did with rockwool I used the 5.5 PH suggestion on the package and they appeared to be PH shocked then I burned them up LOL. I think I'm just going to mod out my aero cloner and equip it with an airstone and submerge the roots as opposed to running a pump. I didn't use a timer and I think it was warming my res too much perhaps. I got roots but it took 3 weeks EEEEK. I would like to have cuttings ready for transplant in under 14 days, I'm not asking for a lot here!

THanks again for all of the info :bigjoint:

Dezracer · May 9, 2011

duchieman said:
Hey Dez, are those budget bulbs your talking about Artemis or Britemore? I remember that chat about bulbs and that's what I'm running and thinking of trying a higher end bulb sometime to see if there's a difference. Curious to see if you already done that.

There ya go, Artemis...

Dezracer · May 9, 2011

I agree with you guys on cloning as well. There are many different ways to achieve good success rates that you just have to find what is best suited to you situation. Personally I decided against the bubble cloning method after using it for a little over a month but I think if I had been better able to control the res temps, I would've had better success. I had a good success rate just not a very quick one and occasionally had some problems.

I had a good ratio with soil too but prefer growing hydro due to the number of plants I run so went back to the dome with the rooters. I don't think there are many 'wrong' ways to clone, just a lot of mistakes that can be made using good methods. Trial and error is a great way to figure it all out and reading up on each method before attempting is a good way to have minimal losses in the process.

DoobieBrother · May 9, 2011

Groovy tidings, 600!
Just a few update pics of my last little crop of MTF.
That was from 4 plants, got 7-oz dry, and I smoked about 3/4-oz of early samples, so almost 8-oz total.
I now have 7 girls flowering (4 Matanuska Thunderfuck, and 3 Northern Berry), both about 2 weeks into 12/12 ligthting, and I just put 4 other MTF clones into flowering yesterday (these four plants were topped for 4 kolas).
Peace!
bongsmilie

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1badmasonman · May 9, 2011

All you really need shwag is a low watt cf,l a good rooting powder, patience and a decent medium like the one cof uses for starter plants, keep her moist and in humidity of 45% or so and you will indeed get some happy yins. There are many many ways to root a clone and they all work the same principles apply really to all methods just different mediums. IE if growing in soil or coco you want to try and root into a medium that will adapt to your eventual grow medium like soil or jiffy pucks. If growing hydro id go bubble cloning for sure. Keeps them roots the way they need to be to go into the DWC or rockwool slab. Clones can also be rooted in rockwool as if everybody didnt know that hahaha.. im stoned :peace:

1BMM

1badmasonman · May 9, 2011

Dezracer said:
I agree with you guys on cloning as well. There are many different ways to achieve good success rates that you just have to find what is best suited to you situation. Personally I decided against the bubble cloning method after using it for a little over a month but I think if I had been better able to control the res temps, I would've had better success. I had a good success rate just not a very quick one and occasionally had some problems.

I had a good ratio with soil too but prefer growing hydro due to the number of plants I run so went back to the dome with the rooters. I don't think there are many 'wrong' ways to clone, just a lot of mistakes that can be made using good methods. Trial and error is a great way to figure it all out and reading up on each method before attempting is a good way to have minimal losses in the process.

Ohh you read my mind Dez. Good advice there

DoobieBrother said:
Groovy tidings, 600!
Just a few update pics of my last little crop of MTF.
That was from 4 plants, got 7-oz dry, and I smoked about 3/4-oz of early samples, so almost 8-oz total.
I now have 7 girls flowering (4 Matanuska Thunderfuck, and 3 Northern Berry), both about 2 weeks into 12/12 ligthting, and I just put 4 other MTF clones into flowering yesterday (these four plants were topped for 4 kolas).
Peace!

Damnit boy Nice haul Doobie :clap:

Got me feinding for a toke hehe.

genuity · May 9, 2011

that MTF is looking oh so sweet.

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