Club 600

Well now i'm on 1000w for the moment... though we'll see how long I leave the 400w HPS in with the regular 600w HPS since i'm not using cool tubes..... I have a bunch of gear of my friends i'm minding and there are 2 cool tubes there but I don't know how to set it up and more importantly my tent doesn't have a 100mm hole/sock to feed out of... it's got a small one though. Does the cooltube use a fan or something to suck the heat out of the ducting? And why are both ends open?

Well get in there and welcome to the 600

Finshaggy said:

It just means 600W?!?!?! That's EXACTLY how many watts I've got goin.

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pandan said:

Well now i'm on 1000w for the moment... though we'll see how long I leave the 400w HPS in with the regular 600w HPS since i'm not using cool tubes..... I have a bunch of gear of my friends i'm minding and there are 2 cool tubes there but I don't know how to set it up and more importantly my tent doesn't have a 100mm hole/sock to feed out of... it's got a small one though. Does the cooltube use a fan or something to suck the heat out of the ducting? And why are both ends open?

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With the cool tubes, one end is attached to an inline fan that will suck air over the bulb and through the cool tube. This effectively cools the tubes down and allows them to be a bit closer to your plants, and also helps control temperatures in your grow area. You can leave one end of the cool tube open, attach it to a fan and suck the air through the cool tube and out of the tent/area. OR you can attached one cool tube end to a Filter, have the fan at the other end sucking air in through the carbon filter and out of the tent. This means air coming out of the grow area will not smell. I have 3 cool tubes set up vertically if you need to check out how to set them up.

Does anyone ever leave one end open and have the venting fan for the light the same vent out for the whole tent? I only have 1 big out hole and some other small hole near it i have no idea what its for.. maybe just wires.

Ok I hung a temp gauge in the middle-ish of the tent and it looks like i'm getting a top of 34 degrees Celsius (93 degrees f) at the same height as the lankiest top- but that top is right up the back so would be a few degrees cooler for sure, so maybe no more than 31.5c (89f). The rest of it I would say is low enough to be closer to 30c (86f) and under... So pretty high... Do I ditch it?

34 is way to high bru. I am concerned (not overly though) when my temps are hitting 30+celcius. You need to get an inline fan and get those cool tubes hooked up that will sort you right out. Or just drop the 400 for the time being.

The 600 needs some Sun this morning.

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DST

You spill the sugar in there mate?

Ditched the 400w
Maybe I should try 2x 400w globes? Or would the heat be not much less. Needs to be like 5 degrees Celsius less...
I don't think I have here what i need to set up the cool tubes plus i should just help myself to someone else's stuff

I've got a few spare cool tubes for sale, lol. I don't know, I am sure your friend would be okay if you give him some green in compensation.

Well the interesting thing is he is in-law family right, and he has just left the country in a hurry to do flight training so is off the green now. So i'm minding his gear pretending it will sell itself or maybe i'll do that for him.... or use just it lol

Sounds like he won't be smoking for a minute so I would just dad on and use it. It'll help you geta better yield and maybe you can even give him some $ for it. Hey, does he also have a fan with his equipment?

You need at least one of these or a higher spec:

Let me have a squiz....ok he/I have a Allvent UF-260.. so maybe that means something to you or you can google the specs for it. Now has he got ducting laying in there too....

By the way i'm not his dad in law- i'm married to his sister so he's my brother from another mother (and father)

Ok look out! Maybe i don't belong here anymore because right now i'm rocking 2x 400's and the heat is much much better... will keep testing more spots in the tent though to be sure, including the exact spot i got 34c with the 600 + 400 going.
So far i'm actually thinking maybe i should keep them on but lower then slightly.. maybe.. will look into effected distance for 400w hps now... so far the most distant tops are maybe 60cm in a straight line from touching the lamp glass. I'm not use to what is good for 400.

I think you'll be more than okay with the allvent. Depends on what capacity it has. The site I was looking at was reading everything in litres. Must be a more common brand for you antipodeans.

45cm is how far I use to keep my plants away from my 400. But with a cool tube you should effectively be able to put your hand on the glass. With my cool tubes my plants are right up to the glass.

And no worries about being on this thread, most people are rocking combination lights. It's far past the amount of kilowatt lights you have here.

Wow you can touch the glass? When i first started growing i was shit scared that something would touch the lamp and it would explode lol I figured something that hot would go to shit if any moisture touched it. But being able to touch the glass on a cool tube sounds awesome.

I'm actually happy with the 2 x 400 watts going right now. I got the lamps up really close now and the heat is under 30c everywhere further than like 20cm or something like that- so all the tops are safe and some are a good distance away (as in still close) rocking a cool 25c which is apparently spot on

It's too late in the night to fuck around any more with it but thanks for all the advice and info on cooltubes- and my mission for another day (maybe tomorrow) is to get a 400 + 600 going at the same temps as i got now.

Actually PS: i'm a bit worried about the fact that 2x 400 is running much cooler.... they say 400w on the globe and ballast and they aren't ones you can power up and down on the ballast.. so um it's not a sign things aren't running at full peak i guess? Odd though.

Good luck pandan and please show us some of what you got going on. Peace, DST

uh, happpy 420, gottttta seee a pshyic doctor ttoday!! wo hooo! lol prescriptions are funny in how they wrok.

Ok since you asked so kindly here you go:

I had to turn the lights off then on (not enough room light to see anything in the tent) because of the orange and black bands so i only snapped a few quick ones while i could- and my net speed running reduced so only uploaded 2.


What the pictures show is a tent 1.2 meters wide, 1.2 meters deep and 2 meters tall. Until a few hours ago I used a 600w hps from seed in cana coco coir. Now i got 2x 400w back to back. In these pictures there is 6 plants which are now 23 days from when i switched the light to 12-12... so they are kind of sucking really, although i haven't grown these strains before... i expected bigger bud on there but the LSD is coming on slow. All 3 on the left are Barney's seed farm LSD and on the right the closest to the camera is DinaFem Diesel, then behind that is DinaFem Critical + and furthest on the right is another LSD. I topped all of them after the 2nd node. the Critical+ is a short plant but i also fucked it around by accidently snapping a main branch away from the node while trying to bend it. It's all a bit chocka in there because they shot out like bastards, i cut like half the mass out just so it could breathe but next time i think i'll try topping above the first node so there will be less but bigger cola's with more space between. On the grill the plants sit on (to drain in to buckets when i hand feed) i got 2 100mm inline fans pointing straight up and another bathroom ceiling vent fan right in the middle pointing up too.
The second photo is from the diesel plant.
So um, anyone want to tell me why my plants aren't budding up big yet?

I LOVE THE 600 CLUB just though id put that out there. So i went to bed at 8 last night and im up at 7 (Which is usually when i get off work) So i guess ima get back to chopping SO MUCH FUN I LOVE IT
lol @ lil grower i could have swore i wrote that right last night sleep desperation is a hell of a drug [video=youtube;wDoIM1dRzGo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDoIM1dRzGo&feature=related[/video]
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Aint posted here in ages, just an update of what Im currently at. I know I probably vegged too long for a 600w but next time Ill be going extreme LST.

Enjoy... (Week 1-2 of flower, AK48 )