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shaymuny

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fo sho.

sounds to me like this: there are benefits and negatives to either using RO or something like spring water.
but, you shouldnt be depending on your water to provide the only source of minerals and such anyhow... so, it seems generally if you are doing things right anyways, RO would be best tho.
so thx for the info.
exactly u just have to remember u are going to have to supplement RO water with a calmag or a magical or something along those lines... every nute company has there own version of it but your plants will be deficent of calcium and magnesium if you do not use the supplement when using RO water...
 

smellzlikeskunkyum

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well its ya'll that got me jibber jabber'n.... all that knowledge. i had to tap into it! i feel super human right now. lol

and yeah sry giggles and jig. super-fire! :joint:
 

smellzlikeskunkyum

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exactly u just have to remember u are going to have to supplement RO water with a calmag or a magical or something along those lines... every nute company has there own version of it but your plants will be deficent of calcium and magnesium if you do not use the supplement...
okay... now i get it. tap and the like are easy because of the cal/mag issue mainly. but honestly the right thing to do is break it down to the basics and water with RO and supplement with cal/mag. then go from there i suppose.

the bacteria i still have one lil q about...

since im using stuff like roots organics buddha bloom and buddha grow, which seem to be awfully "real organic", im probably okay without adding any extra bacteria as long as im sticking to using the bio catalyst?
 

TrynaGroSumShyt

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okay... now i get it. tap and the like are easy because of the cal/mag issue mainly. but honestly the right thing to do is break it down to the basics and water with RO and supplement with cal/mag. then go from there i suppose.

the bacteria i still have one lil q about...

since im using stuff like roots organics buddha bloom and buddha grow, which seem to be awfully "real organic", im probably okay without adding any extra bacteria as long as im sticking to using the bio catalyst?
probably so, but plants like a variety of Micro's and Macro's n shit. do you make tea's too? or are you "bottled organic"?
 

shaymuny

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another thing to keep in mind on the water subject is bottled water/spring water as long as sold in state does not have to be subject to the FDA guidelines... and in most cases 90% of the bottled water you drink is water from your own state which means they are pumping water out of your state and then selling it right back to you... any case when the FDA is not there to step in and moniter the production of these water companies they are left to govern themselves... and in any case with anything no company should be alowed to regulate themselves when it comes to consumable products it can only lead to neglagence... i have tested ppms of bottled water as high as 200 ppm not always or not even usually the case but it happens... take for example when they deliver a shit ton of cases to walmart and the water has to be left on the pavement or in the back of a truck on a 100 degree day at what point do the plastic bottles start having chemical reactions.... there are more reports of people getting sick from bottles water than you would like to know about... just some food for thought
 

shaymuny

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okay... now i get it. tap and the like are easy because of the cal/mag issue mainly. but honestly the right thing to do is break it down to the basics and water with RO and supplement with cal/mag. then go from there i suppose.

the bacteria i still have one lil q about...

since im using stuff like roots organics buddha bloom and buddha grow, which seem to be awfully "real organic", im probably okay without adding any extra bacteria as long as im sticking to using the bio catalyst?
exactly it smellz... thats y people like to use the promix because it comes unamended so you can hand deliver exactly when and what your plants will be getting... no guess work they get what ya give em when ya give it to em..
 

smellzlikeskunkyum

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another thing to keep in mind on the water subject is bottled water/spring water as long as sold in state does not have to be subject to the FDA guidelines... and in most cases 90% of the bottled water you drink is water from your own state which means they are pumping water out of your state and then selling it right back to you... any case when the FDA is not there to step in and moniter the production of these water companies they are left to govern themselves... and in any case with anything no company should be alowed to regulate themselves when it comes to consumable products it can only lead to neglagence... i have tested ppms of bottled water as high as 200 ppm not always or not even usually the case but it happens... take for example when they deliver a shit ton of cases to walmart and the water has to be left on the pavement or in the back of a truck on a 100 degree day at what point do the plastic bottles start having chemical reactions.... there are more reports of people getting sick from bottles water than you would like to know about... just some food for thought
dude i know... thats a whole other subject. i drink bottled water. im sold on spring water, no arguement there. however... all of a sudden in the past year, and it just so happen flint and surrounding areas has had water issues too, the stupid gallons of spring water by all brands taste like freakin old milk jugs and plastic. yuk!
i think yur on to somthing with that there shay.
 

giggles26

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It is on and poppin in the 6 today. Damn you guys can talk, lol. :)
Haha I just gave up and went smoked a bowl and now I'm just following along :D

well its ya'll that got me jibber jabber'n.... all that knowledge. i had to tap into it! i feel super human right now. lol

and yeah sry giggles and jig. super-fire! :joint:
No worries bro. Ask away it's the only way people will learn, as long as the info is legit. I'd highly suggest going and getting you a book. Learn how a plant really acts and shit. Idc how many millions of pages of info is on the internet nothing beats my trusty ol grow bible.
 

smellzlikeskunkyum

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exactly it smellz... thats y people like to use the promix because it comes unamended so you can hand delier exactly when and what your plants will be getting... no guess work they get what ya give em when ya give it to em..
yeah i know... there was even a shortage of promix in the area recently. i had to wait in line behind a group of people at the grow shop who were all there to pick up pro-mix and the guy was trying to help find some for everyone. i was lucky and had a little bit from my buddy in det. for the clones i took from him the day before that.
 

smellzlikeskunkyum

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Haha I just gave up and went smoked a bowl and now I'm just following along :D



No worries bro. Ask away it's the only way people will learn, as long as the info is legit. I'd highly suggest going and getting you a book. Learn how a plant really acts and shit. Idc how many millions of pages of info is on the internet nothing beats my trusty ol grow bible.
and now that y'all just blew my mind, im gonna go do the same and fire up ol betsy.

the weird thing is ive been growing good bud for years... i just wanted to get that crap straight.
ive been getting away with my ghetto ass ways for too long and im tryin to make sure i learn the right way.
i do have a buncha books and refrences thank goodness.
you just cant beat the system of being able to straight up ask anything u can manage to put into written words thru the internet.
especially when minds ripe with knowledge are basically hanging there just waiting to be picked. :)
 

shaymuny

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yeah i know... there was even a shortage of promix in the area recently. i had to wait in line behind a group of people at the grow shop who were all there to pick up pro-mix and the guy was trying to help find some for everyone. i was lucky and had a little bit from my buddy in det. for the clones i took from him the day before that.
lapeer is where i do all my shopping ... been goning there for years if u do enuf bussiness he will set u up with an account.. i get discounts on everything i purchase now and they always have everything in stock... its located where the sec of state use to be
 

smellzlikeskunkyum

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its outta my way im closer to the westwood heights area. but yeah i hear good things about a shop out that way. it wouldnt suprize me if u go to that same one.

theres just so many shops now right by me its rediculous. i only drive as far as i do to the shop because i like those guys. ha. thx tho for letting me know.

i goto the ugs on linden and pasadena.
 

smellzlikeskunkyum

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btw... i just read that i shouldnt need to add Cal/Mag with my Roots organics Buddha bloom & grow. i wonder why my "black apes" and my "freeze cheese" are wanting to taco/canoe then? u think cold nights could be the culprit? perhaps lowering the nitrogen and making it harder for the plant to get its mg?
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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Awesome that's what I just ordered!

Gotta make me a brewer now. God does this spending money shit ever end lol.
no mate its a never ending money pit but the rewards are well worth it.

i guyess hydro once you buy everything oyu need you can go a while without purchasing anything else but eventually u will need more nutes or a pump will break...
 

jigfresh

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I don't think it's cold nights. My room gets down to around 55 at night sometimes and I don't get that taco action.
 

smellzlikeskunkyum

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so maybe try a weak epsom salts solution either as a foliar or just thru watering??

btw i love my roots organics... its the most real your gonna get in a bottle prety much. i plan on getting their bat guano stuff asap. i think its called hp2 or some thing like that.
 
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