Club 600

1badmasonman said:

Funny bit there DST. I liked that show as a yin.

Cof I have the Jacks classic veg nutes that i bought at a local florist shop. They say its good and i was feeding with them but holy bajesus that shit stinks. So are you saying that JC veg and the blossom nutes are all that is needed.? If so that is great because they are locally availible and cheap. Just a chemical derived nute and that is the only downside. Besides the stank of the nutes there self. Nothing against chemicals i just like the natural organic ways i guess. However im not against trying a grow with JC if I can figure out how to handle the smell. Thanks for any advice cof. 1bmm

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Our kind of plants cannot absorb organics before breaking the stuff down into simpler chemical form. Jack's classic is high quality ferts. Two different kinds of nitrogen and the plants don't have to go through breaking down jack's before it can use the nutes. I use liquid karma and cal-mag along with hygrozyme beside my veg and bloom nutes. Molasses in only good for the microbes in your soil, it basically does nothing for the plants.

strictly seedleSs said:

hotsauce-my suggestion, when you are thinking of buying an audi, buy a suby instead. audis are nice, but the cost of maintenance is ridiculous. I looked at a few before i settled on an impreza. I like the legacy, but couldn't afford one with the perks i wanted.

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1000% agree, yeah, 1,000.

Just got my 600w up and running, Lumatek digital dimmable ballast, 6'' cooltube w/ a 500 cfm fan for exhaust. Right now temps are at 81 and dropping slowly (I just turned the fan on full speed) but I have a question, Do I want to check the temperature at canopy level or below it, where the thermometer is shielded from light?

infinitescrog said:

Just got my 600w up and running, Lumatek digital dimmable ballast, 6'' cooltube w/ a 500 cfm fan for exhaust. Right now temps are at 81 and dropping slowly (I just turned the fan on full speed) but I have a question, Do I want to check the temperature at canopy level or below it, where the thermometer is shielded from light?

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Nice- I think canopy is more important but it doesn't hurt to check the temp at container level. A 500 cfm should have no trouble getting the heat from the bulb out.

jigfresh said:

1000% agree, yeah, 1,000.

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jig-i figured you would agree out of anyone, we're mountain neighbors. i know subys are pretty handy around bear.

whodatnation said:

Nice- I think canopy is more important but it doesn't hurt to check the temp at container level. A 500 cfm should have no trouble getting the heat from the bulb out.

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So the bottom is 85 and the canopy is 95! So I switched my ballast down to 400w for the time being until I get the cab sealed so it can only intake fresh air near the floor (I suspect it's drawing too much from the top of the air column.

The space I am in is only 50 CF and my fan is 500 CFM so I can change the air mass 10 times every minute, is this a good thing? Even with the fan at full temps still sat in the mid 90's, but again, I suspect it's just that I don't have the cab sealed yet.

Headsup excellent description of the plants response to the nutes by god. Seems to be the buiz. Got my wheels turning now can i use it in the hydro systen i built. hmm. fried and tired good night peeps. 1bmm!!! peace

I use Jacks Classic for both veg and flower and it seems to work great for me hahaha. It's hella cheap and has all the micronutes you need

whodatnation said:

Is that german?

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It's Dutch.

1badmasonman said:

Funny bit there DST. I liked that show as a yin.

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It was a classic indeed.....oh the age of innocence.

Hotsause said:

*Sigh* The Bad Luck just keeps rolling in for me guys....

About a month and a half ago i crashed my Audi due to having a low bloodsugar and passing out(Im diabetic) So i gathered all my resources and with a little help from my folks bought a 2000 A6 2.7T. It has a 3000mile/3month warranty. I took the car to get checked out and IT HAS 6000 DOLLARS WORTH OF PROBLEMS and the dealer is saying most of it is stuff he doesnt have to fix and will not fix................. WHEN WILL IT STOP i really dont know how to feel right now i work hard for everything i get and in the end it seems like the assholes always win

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Well bad luck is often said to come in three's, so hopefully soon lad. Pick yerself up, stand up tall, and Walk On bru! You'll get it sorted.

wormdrive66 said:

goede nacht vriend

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Goedenmorgen allemaal, en een fijne dag verder.

Yea thanks DST and Headsup im looking forward to some good luck coming my way. On the possitive side the few nugs i did harvest my weight is 18.5 no including my main nug from my Durban Poison or my PGB i also have all my popcorn buds from my Purple GB to trim im guessing just under an ounce which is kind of sad i was hoping for way more but my B.F.F looks like it will yield the most but it still has a while to go I have alot of pictures i just been to lazy to find my girls charger SOON ENOUGH I WILL STOP SULKING lol

Hotsause said:

SOON ENOUGH I WILL STOP SULKING lol

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ahaha, that's the spirit Hotsause!!!

Lifes too short lad.

curious old fart said:

1bmm

I've been using Dyna-Gro for my current grows and I'm going to do a comparison with Jack's Classic. With the Dyna-Gro I'm running Foliage-Pro 9-3-6 and Pro-TEKt 0-0-3 at 1/4 teaspoon per gallon for veg. At 12/12 I change to Grow 7-9-5 with the Pro-TeKt and I add 1 teaspoon Bio-Bloom (1.1-2.5-2), which helps sweeten, for the first 3 to 4 weeks when I switch to Bloom 3-12-6 with the Pro-TeKt and Bio-Bloom.
Fox Farm is an excellant product, (I've used it & others) but so is the Dyna-Gro and a whole lot cheaper and easier to use. Use at every watering eliminates the need to remember if it's time to feed or water. I happen to have the Jack's Classic and the clones on hand for the comparison and will post the final results.

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Hookd
Upon futher review I found the mh is devoid of the needed micronutrients which the Jack's Classic has and which DST mentioned.


cof

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Heads Up said:

COF, that is exactly what I do, almost every watering. Tonight they got just water, first time in a couple of weeks. I also use Jack's Classic blossom booster. Even in veg I do the same thing, low doses of grow nutes, I'm using dyna-gro 9-3-6 for veg and one quarter strength every watering. Two or three days ago I gave them a full strength dose of 9-3-6 and today is the first day of 12/12. And yes Hookd, we are speaking to you. It generally will take a week in soil to see results. I make sure I give my plants grow nutes once or twice during flowering. Once your girls get going good in the flower stage, a dose of nitrogen here and there will help to keep your leaves green and it will not hurt the flowering.

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First off ^^^^^ Many reps if I can to the both of you! You to 1bmm

I've actually been wondering about the Dyna-Gro. UB's said some decent things about it. One of the best all-in-one complete nutrient formulas.

DST Thanks man! Ya know, I never really thought about that, butI really think your right! I dunno why it never occored to me that it could be a micro nutrient problem. Awesome, thanks guy!

And COF man, REALLY thanks for that info! I think I'm going to pick up some Jack's Classic or Dyna-Gro when I get off work today before watering the girls tonight.
Is there any problem with switching nutrients during the middle of a grow/flowering period?.. I wouldn't think there should be an issue with it. But just wanna make sure. Thanks again guys!

Love for the 600!

http://www.hydro-gardens.com/fertcomp.htm

EDIT: they have sodium molybdate 2oz package for $6.95...plus a whole shed of other ferts, etc...

DST, those shoes of yours. Here is another word that I believe to be truly american that I just love. When I was growing up, we called those types of shoes 'sneakers'. People here in the south of america call them tennis shoes or tennies.

Being the curious type, where is everyone from? I think it would be cool if we had every continent represented on the six hundred.

For all those who don't know, I live in florida. Hot, humid, muggy, florida. I am sick to death of having a heat index of over a hundred every day of the summer...and our summer lasts forever. Here you hear a lot of transplants say they miss the different seasons of the year. Well I had an old time florida guy once tell me that he didn't understand. He said we have four seasons here in florida, we have early summer, mid summer, late summer and next summer. Today wasn't too bad, it only felt like a hundred and five in the shade.

Who has heat problems?

Question. You hydro guys and all those who use hydro/aero to clone. What do you guys use in your res for a cloning solution? I know they make the stuff, I've seen several hundred brands.

I remember reading, distantly remember, it's either P or K that helps to form roots. If that's the case why not just put a shot of something like tiger bloom into your res? Wouldn't it be cheaper than buying a ready made cloning solution?

Uptown New Orleans is in the building!!! Thats where im from and lived there for 23ish years but now live in colorado to keep my ass out of jail by being legal... The N.O will always be home I guess you gotta make sacrifices to keep out of this fkd up system the U.S has goin on.

Heads Up said:

Question. You hydro guys and all those who use hydro/aero to clone. What do you guys use in your res for a cloning solution? I know they make the stuff, I've seen several hundred brands.

I remember reading, distantly remember, it's either P or K that helps to form roots. If that's the case why not just put a shot of something like tiger bloom into your res? Wouldn't it be cheaper than buying a ready made cloning solution?

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Sorry but Im not a hdro guy HU.

I'm sorry to report my partner in stupid, has a bad case of the stupids and to make matters worse, he's hard headed. How many times do you need to make the same mistake to learn? It's just like when we go golfing. Any par three that has water on the left, you can be assured he is going to put two hooks into the water, and it doesn't matter how near or far the water, he is going to hook two balls in there. He is never satisfied to put just one ball in, he has to put two. Yesterday he killed off his girls at week three of flowering. Dreadful looking things. We've all seen women who are nothing but skin and bones and yet when they look in the mirror, they see fat. His last two grows were horrible. He got something like twelve ounces from fourteen plants and probably four ounces of those twelve were seeds, dreadful. The plants were so yellow the stems were yellow. I was starting to think...can marijuana plants catch jaundice? These are indica dominant plants and they looked like stretched sativas they were so thin and wispy.

He's to the point he has gained a bit of knowledge and he's become dangerous to any living thing that is green. He feeds his plants like he's creating some kind of soup...let's see we'll give them some of this, a dash of that, maybe a little of this here and oh, that over there looks good, let's give them some of that too. His soil, soil, is like 4.5 and god only knows what the npk of his dr. frankenstein mixtures is??? He is stuck on the more is better idea and I can mix my own soil idea. Last grow was horrible and this grow is now killed.

I recently read in Urban Garden the worst part about bad growers, most of them don't or won't realize it's themselves.

This is not a criticism of him personally. I've known him for over fifteen years. It's just more of a sharing to give everyone a good chuckle. I just got off the phone with him and he's 'adjusting' his set-up. I can't seem to convince him that eighty five at canopy level is getting into the danger area, he just doesn't seem to get it, he blames the soil and rightly so, but he won't listen when I tell him, even if your soil was perfect, eighty five, six and seven is going to stunt their growth. He finally gave in and admitted I was probably correct.

Time to see the girls, lights are on and it starts day two of 12/12. One thing I have noticed about myself concerning growing. My ideas and thoughts of what I'm going to do, change from day to day. I was not going to flower them until this upcoming weekend, instead I flipped them last night.

whodatnation said:

Uptown New Orleans is in the building!!! Thats where im from and lived there for 23ish years but now live in colorado to keep my ass out of jail by being legal... The N.O will always be home I guess you gotta make sacrifices to keep out of this fkd up system the U.S has goin on.

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Sad but true. My ex is from Lou-zee-anna, met some really nice folks there, ate my first catfish at my first outdoor fish fry there, and I'm thinking catfish, ugh. It was great and so was the gumbo and jambalaya. Those folks could cook. That's one helluva' switch whodat, how you like living there and how long you been there now?