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nas

Seedlings don't need any nutes, you're burning them up. You can try to carefully
trans-plant them into a nutrient free enviroment and lightly flush.


cof

that would be hard to do cous my local hydro shop is closed for a few days. for time being should i water with lowerd ph water

I agree with COF, no nutes yet, I didnt feed until over 3 weeks in. But yes flush them out with a lower ph water, and they SHOULD come back. No guarantees, and Im not even saying Im right, but with a ph of 7.5, thats more than likely your issue. Lightly flush like COF said, just enough so that some water runs out the bottom, but not a lot. Then just water them regularly with the low ph water, I would go with about 5 right now until it levels out and they are healthy again. Im new to the whole indoor game myself, I consider myself a very good grower outdoors, but hell mother nature does most of the work. Indoors is a whole new game, but Im starting to figure this stuff out, not as easy as adding and subtracting, but its not rocket science either. Just a lot of research, trail and error, and a bit of luck always helps.

nas

you don't need a hydro store, any home and garden center (or Lowe's or home depot) has sterile soil or coca or peat/perlite. Your plants might not last that long.


cof

nas2007 said:

light is a Blue Spectrum 250 watt 8U 6400K E40 CFL Grow Light Bulb , and its about 2-3 inches away from plant tops and a fan plowing between the plant tops and the light its its kinda keeping the light cool,

the soil has about 3-4 weeks worth of nutes in it i was told when i bought it,

temps r about 80 - 85f humdity is alwais is between 50 and 70

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soil has nutes? how much of what kind?
it appears to be way too much .imho


cof

The best way to fix is to flush with 2 to 3 times the size of pot with hp6 or a little lower and they should come back. Don't feed till they have 5 to 6 good leaves.

Peace

Here is some handy info on cupping and curling leaves

[FONT=&quot]Solving Marijuana Plan Leaf Curl/Cupping Problems[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Plenty of first time and experienced marijuana growers will suffer at some point in their cannabis growing career marijuana plants that begin to show leaf damage.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Often they write emails or post on forums.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Help, my leaves are cupping and the leaf edges are turning brown!”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]or[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“My plant's leaf tips are curling down and turning black ....what's wrong?”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Unless another marijuana grower inspects the damage a true assessment might not be possible. It's hard to tell "exactly" what the culprit is. Unfortunately the “solution” the marijuana grower chooses many times is not the right one.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]A misdiagnosis only serves to make matters worse by promoting further decline.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The ultimate and correct solution is in the hands of the marijuana grower.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Here are some common problems when marijuana leaves are curling.[/FONT]

1. [FONT=&quot]Too much marijuana fertilizer[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
   The most common cause of marijuana leaf cupping aka leaf margin rolling, leaf margin burn, and leaf tip curl/burn is overzealous use of marijuana plant food. In relationship to factors such as marijuana plant vigor and rate of growth. Leaf burn is often the very first sign of too much marijuana fertilizer.
   A hard, crispy feel to the marijuana leaf frequently occurs as well, as opposed to a soft and cool feel of a happy pot leaf. Back off on the amount and/or frequency of using marijuana fertilizer. Too much marijuana fertilizer can also burn the roots, especially the sensitive root tips, which then creates another set of problems. Note - as soil dries, the concentration of the remaining salts rises further exacerbating the problem. [/FONT]
2. [FONT=&quot]High Heat[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
   The marijuana plant is losing water via it’s leaves faster than what can be replaced by the root system. The marijuana leaf responds by leaf margin cupping or rolling up or down (most times up) in order to conserve moisture. A good example is reflected by the appearance of broad-bladed turf grass on a hot summer day, high noon, with low soil moisture levels - the leaf blade will roll upward/inward with the grass taking on a dull, greyish-green appearance. Upon sunrise when moisture levels have returned to normal, the leaf blade will be flat. Lower the heat in the marijuana grow-op and concentrate on developing a large robust root system. An efficient and effective root system will go a long way to prevent heat induced pot leaf dessication or marijuana leaf margin curling. One short episode of high heat is enough to permanently disable or destroy leaf tissue and cause a general decline in the leaves affected, which often occurs to leaves found at the top of the cannabis plant. The damaged pot leaf (usually) does not fully recover, no matter what you do. Bummer in the summer. One can only look to new growth for indications that the problem has been corrected.[/FONT]
3. [FONT=&quot]Too much light[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
   Yes, it’s true, you can give your marijuana plant too much light. Cannabis does not receive full sun from sunrise to sunset in its natural state. It is shaded or given reduced light levels because of adjacent plant material, cloudy conditions, rain, dust, twilight periods in the morning and late afternoon, and light intensity changes caused by a change in the seasons. Too much light mainly serves to bleach out and destroy chlorophyll as opposed to causing marijuana leaf cupping, but it often goes hand-in-hand with high heat for indoor marijuana growers. Turn down the time when the lights on in your marijuana grow room. If you're using a 24 hr cycle, turn it down to 20 hrs. Those on 18 - 6 marijuana growth cycle can turn their lights down two or three hours. Too much light can have many adverse effects on marijuana plants. Concentrate on developing/maintaining an efficient and robust root system.[/FONT]
4. [FONT=&quot]Over Watering[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
   For marijuana growers using soil, this practice only serves to weaken the root system by depriving the roots of proper gas exchange. The marijuana plants roots are not getting enough oxygen which creates an anerobic condition inducing root rot and root decline with the end result showing up as leaf stress, stunted growth, and in severe cases, death. Over watering creates a perfect environment for damp-off disease, at, or below the soil line. Many times marijuana growers believe their cannabis plant is not getting enough marijuana fertilizers (which it can't under such adverse conditions), so they add more marijuana fertilizers. Making the problem worst. Not better. Often problem 1 and 4 go together. Too much marijuana fertilizer combined with too much water. Creating plenty of marijuana plant problems.[/FONT]
5. [FONT=&quot]Not Enough Water[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
   Not only is the marijuana plant now stressed due to a low supply of adequate moisture, but carbohydrate production has been greatly compromised (screwed up). Step up the watering frequency, and if need be, organic marijuana growers may need to water from the bottom up until moisture levels reach a norm throughout the medium. One of the best methods in determining whether a marijuana plant requires watering is lifting the pots. The pots should be light to lift before a water session. After watering the marijuana plants lift the pots to get an understanding how heavy they've become fully watered. If the pot feels light to the lift - it’s time to water. Don’t wait until the soil pulls away from the side of the pot before watering. And of course, leach, once in a while to get rid of excess salts. These are the five most common problems marijuana growers encounter when growing cannabis. Correcting the problems early will save the marijuana plants, but may reduce overall yield. With practice and experience these problems are easily overcome which will then enable the marijuana grower to produce fantastic marijuana plants. With heavy yields.[/FONT]

i use a coco terra pro one of the best soils u can get and highly recommended here in uk, alot of people use this for growing these plants.

well i just flushed them with 5.2 ph water lets wait n see how it goes ill let you boys know. thanks for the help!

1bmm... You should really put some tape over those gaps in the foam inserts. I learned from experience that even the tiniest smallest, little bitty bit of light (even a glow) can stunt root growth. Don't get me wrong, those roots look real nice, But i think with absolutely 0 light getting in the rez, you would have even more.

Lovely work regardless.

And Trichome fiend. Superb plants/ buds my friend. Amazing for sure.

Outdoorindica said:

Probably a ph issue, I had my ph too high at first and had some pretty bad curling of leaves on a few of my plants, once I lowered the ph to around 5 the plants came back quickly. You have to take into consideration the soil ph as well. I had my water at around 6.5, but that was too high for the plants along with the soil. Depending on what your medium is made up of, the ph will vary. I would say its too high at this point. Water, with a lower ph'd water, just water no nutes, and I think your problem will clear up.

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p.s this is the ph in soil and info i could finde out

soil is pH neutral and are made to the high RHP quality mark standard.

Your favourite plant grows best in a nitrogen-rich soil and Canna Terra Professional Soil Mix is unlike anything you will find in a garden centre. It contains a blend of soil, compost, worm castings, perlite and a special 'natural plant booster' which is a blend of organic ingredients. If you are going to grow in soil, this is the soil mix you want to use

hi 600 club,

just got invited by whodatnation. Thought you all would like to see some of my flower pictures. Here they are...

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/341992-first-mj-grow-1200w-hid-11.html

mm

Heads Up said:

DST and mr west, what? I thought you guys spoke english? I have not a clue as to what you were saying to each other.

chiefing the dpq last night, what? I was on the grolsch, what? Aunt sally? Worzy? What?

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Chiefing DPQ - I was smoking Deep Purple Querkle last night
I was on the grolsch - Grolsch is a Dutch beer.
Aunt Sally - An English TC character that was in a programme called Worzel Gummage (who was actually a scarecrow who could change his heads, haha) Aunt Sally always had a cup of tea and a slice of cake!! Easy when you know eh!!! lol

whodatnation said:

Hey fellow 600 peeps! Got a question for yall, If doing 12/12 from clone what size container would you go with? Im thinking 2gal maybe 3gal but still want to hear what you guys/gals think... Are there any female 600 members???? hahaha I dont think so, sigh- what a sausage fest...

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We scared them all away, we use to have Doe Eyed, but she left for Speedyseedz, and Mr West's good lady LGP, butother than that, yup, suasage fest, Lol

1badmasonman said:

Hahahaha hells yeah Whodat. A big ole circle jerk haha. I think a 3 gal pot or container will sufice for a 12/12 from clone. They say a gal for each month the plant shall occupy the pot. or so the fable goes. Seems to be right on though.

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Nice looking WW Badman....so how long you got before inspection time??

BTW, forgot to answer your question previously about bubble bags. I use the work bag and a 20micron bag only.

curious old fart said:

whodat

Save your space and use one gallon. My current grow with veg time is with these and there are no problems, other than watering more frequently. I bought used ones from a home and garden center for $.50 each and thought they were small and found a stamp on one that had 3 liter...just saves that much more room.

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as you can see the old gal per foot is pure bull. I could have grown her taller if I had vegged longer. I have a mother plant in one.


cof

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I agree, go for the 1 gallon!!!

trichlone fiend said:

...I agree w/ the old fart, I have cram'd 40 under each 600w HPS , straight from clones, in 1 gallon grow bags, w/ great results.


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I think the proof is in the pics of the Fiends!!!

nas2007 said:

p.s this is the ph in soil and info i could finde out

soil is pH neutral and are made to the high RHP quality mark standard.

Your favourite plant grows best in a nitrogen-rich soil and Canna Terra Professional Soil Mix is unlike anything you will find in a garden centre. It contains a blend of soil, compost, worm castings, perlite and a special 'natural plant booster' which is a blend of organic ingredients. If you are going to grow in soil, this is the soil mix you want to use

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Personally I would be surprised if it is a PH problem, especially at that age. If you have bought good soil (even with added nutes) then unless you are throwing acid or vinegar in there I doubt the ph would have changed massively (if only watering with water)
Like HU said, I think the medium looks very dry, they almost look like they have been toasted.
I have a 300w CFL light, 64 or 6500, and you gotta watch with them. It is not like sticking a 23w cfl over your plants. Seedlings are surpsiingly sturdy so should be okay with heat, but I would say move that cfl a tad bit further away, water (don't flush, imo - flushing can often make your soil very damp and will sufficate roots so be careful) Alterantively, if you have a window that is discreet, stick em on that for a couple of days, amazing what mother natures 600 does.

PEace,

DST
I would, Water, move light and monitor.

Damn thanks for all the replies fellow 600

Welcome mm, do you mean these lovely girls?????

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medicalmary said:

hi 600 club,

just got invited by whodatnation. Thought you all would like to see some of my flower pictures. Here they are...

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/341992-first-mj-grow-1200w-hid-11.html

mm

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Do you know how to grow a dwarf plant? Cause i've always wanted to know how to grow one, cause i think that regular sized plants take up space, and would want a little one.

Dangel said:

Do you know how to grow a dwarf plant? Cause i've always wanted to know how to grow one, cause i think that regular sized plants take up space, and would want a little one.

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A dwarf plant?? Do you mean an autoflowerer, SOG, or are you truelly talking dwarf?

like this.....lol

dude yeah dwarf plants would be bossy I second that notion lol

DST that nug is fking BOSS!How long did you veg?LOL? Yeh have like 500 of those in 200cc containers S.O.D style (sea of dwarf) under a 600 would be awesome
Nice stalk btw!

Good morning, afternoon or evening. Just like Dutch Boy Paints, we are covering the earth. Well I tried the gumby method of making hash last night. I had some old dried out trim, mostly fan leaves, that I crushed up and threw in a five gallon bucket with some ice and water and proceeded to mix it for about forty minutes with a hand kitchen mixer. I dumped it all through my 220 micron bag to get the schwag out and then let the water sit for about three hours so the trichomes would settle to the bottom. I siphoned off most of the water and then sucked out the trichomes with a turkey baster and put the whole mess on a double layer of wax paper to let the remaining water evaporate. I dumped that water back through the schwag bag, let it sit overnight so the trichs would settle and then dumped that through my 25 micron bag this morning. Got me a nice lump of hash going. Hopefully when I get home this afternoon/evening, both will be dry enough to form into a nice black ball. I'll keep ya'll posted on the progress later today.

Nas, I agree with DST concerning solving your problem with your babies.

Have a good one all you sausages, see ya' tonight.

whodatnation said:

DST that nug is fking BOSS!How long did you veg?LOL? Yeh have like 500 of those in 200cc containers S.O.D style (sea of dwarf) under a 600 would be awesome
Nice stalk btw!

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Sea of Dwarfs.....ahahahaha, thanks for that, lmfao.
You will not believe it but that little nug was a clone that basically died. I threw it out in my greenhouse and just left it and low and behold it started to flower...so veg period must have been about 2 month!! What a yielder it turned out to be, hehe. I was actually going to do the whole plant in one bong, but I decided to gift it to the Grey Area coffeeshop as a souvineer, it sat on their counter for a week and then got smoked!!!

Heads Up said:

Good morning, afternoon or evening. Just like Dutch Boy Paints, we are covering the earth. Well I tried the gumby method of making hash last night. I had some old dried out trim, mostly fan leaves, that I crushed up and threw in a five gallon bucket with some ice and water and proceeded to mix it for about forty minutes with a hand kitchen mixer. I dumped it all through my 220 micron bag to get the schwag out and then let the water sit for about three hours so the trichomes would settle to the bottom. I siphoned off most of the water and then sucked out the trichomes with a turkey baster and put the whole mess on a double layer of wax paper to let the remaining water evaporate. I dumped that water back through the schwag bag, let it sit overnight so the trichs would settle and then dumped that through my 25 micron bag this morning. Got me a nice lump of hash going. Hopefully when I get home this afternoon/evening, both will be dry enough to form into a nice black ball. I'll keep ya'll posted on the progress later today.

Nas, I agree with DST concerning solving your problem with your babies.

Have a good one all you sausages, see ya' tonight.

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See ya the night HeadsUp.....good luck with the hash.

Jigfresh yes you are correct.. The light also makes algae grow. Just a lazy bugger these days lol. DST thanks for answering that ?. I got about a month or so before inspection. But im going to get ready ahead of time. Off to the grind. Have a good day peeps. 1BMM