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FuckJeffGoldbloom
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Hey club,
I was discussing with Java an interesting question i had, and JD advised me to maybe post the question in a thread so it will receive some action...
I'll just pretty much copy and paste what i asked him earlier...
I purchased a new jewelers loupe 60-100x works pretty well once i got the hang of it. Little small but i'll deal...
Anyway, I would like to ask your opinion on looking at trichs on different places of the plant or even the bud...
If I take my loupe and look at a main bud, and its 80% cloudy 20% clear , does that mean most other mains, on the same plant will be about the same ratio? Or even on the opposite side of the bud?
I would think popcorns would be bad at judging and you should focus on the main colas..? Am i right in thinking this way? Sorry just a little confused, if you could help me out a little mate....plus my eyesight isn't the greatest.
Thank you
FJG
I was discussing with Java an interesting question i had, and JD advised me to maybe post the question in a thread so it will receive some action...
I'll just pretty much copy and paste what i asked him earlier...
I purchased a new jewelers loupe 60-100x works pretty well once i got the hang of it. Little small but i'll deal...
Anyway, I would like to ask your opinion on looking at trichs on different places of the plant or even the bud...
If I take my loupe and look at a main bud, and its 80% cloudy 20% clear , does that mean most other mains, on the same plant will be about the same ratio? Or even on the opposite side of the bud?
I would think popcorns would be bad at judging and you should focus on the main colas..? Am i right in thinking this way? Sorry just a little confused, if you could help me out a little mate....plus my eyesight isn't the greatest.
Thank you
FJG
bassman999
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I have noticed that leaves mature sooner.
I also believe the larger, and closer to the light buds will mature sooner.
I am not the ganja master so take my info with that in mind
Flaming Pie
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Well I am not doing it to save money. I am doing it to slow my fan down.
FuckJeffGoldbloom
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Javadog
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My problem is that I am thinking that trichs go from clear to amber
as a function of time. (setting aside factors that might affect this,
like light, humidity, and temps)
If this is the case, then we are never going to be looking for some
"global" effect...i.e. some biochemical signal that cause all trichs to
tend to mature, but instead for a feeling as to how the "average" trich
looks.
I suppose that we are looking for opinions on physical procedures....
...i.e. test one top/bud leaf, one top fan leaf, and one lower of each
and then average the impressions given.
What a terrible post. LOL
JD
curious old fart
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Clear to cloudy to amber. I harvest when they are cloudy and beginning to amber.
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FuckJeffGoldbloom
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I agree that they go from clear to amber within a certain time frame, As after chop trichs are still maturing, and some milky turn amber, clear to milky and so on...
Yeah some examples of the methods you use would be appreciated. Do most of you take your % estimations from one simple scope of the trichs, or more of percentage of the whole plant?
Make that two terrible post JD LOL... I know what i want to ask but it wont come out right...damn kief
FJG
Yeah some examples of the methods you use would be appreciated. Do most of you take your % estimations from one simple scope of the trichs, or more of percentage of the whole plant?
Make that two terrible post JD LOL... I know what i want to ask but it wont come out right...damn kief
FJG
bassman999
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Same here
I do think this is true as well
Chop top, then bottom if you want em close to the same I suppose
FuckJeffGoldbloom
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And when you make your assumption that the cloudy are turing to amber, do you sample multiple places on the plant, levels if you would?Clear to cloudy to amber. I harvest when they are cloudy and beginning to amber.
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Or just the main cola so on..
FuckJeffGoldbloom
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Yeah that's what I thought was going to be the suggestion, but still mainly interested on how people come across their percentage of cloudy milky amber clear, how many bud sites?
curious old fart
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I look at the upper buds and when I start to see amber then it's time.....but pretty much everything in there is harvested at 9 weeks.
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Javadog
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OK. This makes sense.
This is the approach that "if the upper buds are ready, then they all are".
It works as well as any....I get the feeling that after this point we are
down to matters of style.
i.e. there is likely someone out there who strongly leans away from amber
trichs who would say "if the lower buds show amber, then chop right away".
Interesting stuff, no matter how you chop it. :0)
JD
This is the approach that "if the upper buds are ready, then they all are".
It works as well as any....I get the feeling that after this point we are
down to matters of style.
i.e. there is likely someone out there who strongly leans away from amber
trichs who would say "if the lower buds show amber, then chop right away".
Interesting stuff, no matter how you chop it. :0)
JD
bassman999
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I am greedy, and will not chop till they stop swelling, even if that is after amber has shown.
BobBitchen
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I start checking trich's at suggested flower time but with millions of trich's ALL over plant, my math skills can't compute amber,cloudy,clear ratios
kinda let buds tell me when they are finally ready, swelling slows/stops, pistils retract,buds shout now!
Works for me...........but then again, Im an idiot.....
kinda let buds tell me when they are finally ready, swelling slows/stops, pistils retract,buds shout now!
Works for me...........but then again, Im an idiot.....
Javadog
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I leverage the power of ignorance as well.
:0)
I kinda do all the above....if I start seeing ambers, and
am seeing few white hairs left, and am seeing the bud leaves
turn color (I really like that one! :0), then I pull the trigger.
LOL, but I do seem to be getting more patient as my experience grows.
JD
:0)
I kinda do all the above....if I start seeing ambers, and
am seeing few white hairs left, and am seeing the bud leaves
turn color (I really like that one! :0), then I pull the trigger.
LOL, but I do seem to be getting more patient as my experience grows.
JD
jigfresh
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I got a math boner reading all this. I can just imagine mapping the trichs in a cool program to tell you where things are at by submitting pictures and matching them up with a big picture of the plant. mmmmm
I ignore popcorn buds whether they are on the bottom of the plant or in the middle. I only pay attention to the buds either in direct light, or the buds that are nice and fat right behind them. I usually look at two or three buds. I try to pick the one that looks the most done, that would be the main cola in a 'normal' grow, in my closet I find it to be usually the bud closest to the light, or near abouts. So I check that one, both the actual bud and one of the sugar leaves sticking out. I then check one of the real nice buds in the second tier that are still a little more glisteny and not so ready looking... check that bud and a sugar leaf coming out.
I kinda take the average of what I saw there and use that as the measure to harvest that plant. I go plant by plant. I like a little more up high so I usually take them earlier than later. If I start seeing amber around it's about time. Even just a few.
I ignore popcorn buds whether they are on the bottom of the plant or in the middle. I only pay attention to the buds either in direct light, or the buds that are nice and fat right behind them. I usually look at two or three buds. I try to pick the one that looks the most done, that would be the main cola in a 'normal' grow, in my closet I find it to be usually the bud closest to the light, or near abouts. So I check that one, both the actual bud and one of the sugar leaves sticking out. I then check one of the real nice buds in the second tier that are still a little more glisteny and not so ready looking... check that bud and a sugar leaf coming out.
I kinda take the average of what I saw there and use that as the measure to harvest that plant. I go plant by plant. I like a little more up high so I usually take them earlier than later. If I start seeing amber around it's about time. Even just a few.
Javadog
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Thats sounds about like what I *think* I am doing now Jig. :0)
I focus on the top of the plant, looking to it as a lagging indicator.
When it says go, I go.
I want to check trich from top to bottom, at least once, to ensure
that the plant is maturing normally.
This all reminds me of Einstein's quote:
Where math is exact it does not apply to reality, and where it
applies to reality it is not exact.
Is the latter situation?
:0)
JD
I focus on the top of the plant, looking to it as a lagging indicator.
When it says go, I go.
I want to check trich from top to bottom, at least once, to ensure
that the plant is maturing normally.
This all reminds me of Einstein's quote:
Where math is exact it does not apply to reality, and where it
applies to reality it is not exact.
Is the latter situation?
:0)
JD
Flaming Pie
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Wondering if using carbon filter to dry bud is bad? Does it wear out the carbon faster?
FuckJeffGoldbloom
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I wouldn't say bad...
In my position its good, keeps the smell from potent harvesting down, keeps the humidity in a stable position, and constant passive airflow not directly on the buds.
As for wearing out faster I don't think the carbon filter works hard to remove a more offensive odor, or is even "used" up by a more offensive odor. The more you run it, even with a pre-filter, dust will get through probably even some moisture. They say carbon filters have a lifespan of about 12-18 months before it should be refilled and switched out. Humidity, temperature, and how often the filter is running probably declines its lifespan, but i wouldn't think it would wear it out any faster than filtering anywhere else. unless its already clean pure filtered air going in.
A lot of indoor growers use their tent as a drying chamber, primarily because of the filtration for smell. Buds can get Stanky!
FJG
In my position its good, keeps the smell from potent harvesting down, keeps the humidity in a stable position, and constant passive airflow not directly on the buds.
As for wearing out faster I don't think the carbon filter works hard to remove a more offensive odor, or is even "used" up by a more offensive odor. The more you run it, even with a pre-filter, dust will get through probably even some moisture. They say carbon filters have a lifespan of about 12-18 months before it should be refilled and switched out. Humidity, temperature, and how often the filter is running probably declines its lifespan, but i wouldn't think it would wear it out any faster than filtering anywhere else. unless its already clean pure filtered air going in.
A lot of indoor growers use their tent as a drying chamber, primarily because of the filtration for smell. Buds can get Stanky!
FJG