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Aww lovely baby dog and ur dwarf dont look very small lol.

mr west said:

Aww lovely baby dog and ur dwarf dont look very small lol.

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i was jus bout to say that!!! lol.

You really have to mix up a batch of your nutrients to see what your normal ppms are at. Mine vary so greatly its not even funny. I feed the Blue Kush at 500-750ppms in flower, The Madonna wont let me give her anything over 350ppm. I used to feed the Blue Kush at 900ppm, but got much better results with the lower ppms. I know I read it all over, but for some odd reason I thought give them as much as they can handle. But running very low ppms and using fulvic acid or any other product that helps with nutrient uptake really seems like the way to go. I just changed my mix again for the Madonna, because it stayed in perfect health at 300ppm's with veg food, but 300ppm's of the flower mix and I started getting burning on the tips. I can believe any plant would burn 4 weeks into flower at 300ppms, but I guess I've seen everything now.

Yea funny thing is i got that Blueberry Dwarf same time as my Purple God Bud And shes already been harvested cured and smoked lol i think this Dwarf is way past ready to show what shes got

I thought the stretch was over, until I watered, then it wasnt over. Oh well still got height to work with. Being at day 18 of 12/12, I think they should stop stretching any day now. For the most part I think they have slowed down. Some never grew all that much compared to the others. Got some decent trichome coverage on some of them now. Something is messed up with my computer so I cant upload pics on here at the moment. I have to use a different one, that I dont always have access to because its being used. Pics asap I promise. I think Im doing ok for being at this stage. Just hoping I get to the end with no issues. That Sensi Star has been sticky to the touch on the stems and had a bit of trichs here and there since veg, and its only getting worse (better). Im very pleased with how she has grown, had some issues at first with yellowing but the grow big cleared that up. I have always wanted to grow that strain and am glad she is performing how she has. Black Jack is a tiny fucker compared to the rest, but looks good and is sticky. She had the same issues that the sensi had but also mad a great come back. White Russian looks great, with nice buds sites all over, a bunch towards the top. The SAD looks very nice, has a lower branch that worked its way to the top as well and fattened up like it wanted to be a top too. That should be nice in the end. The cheese, well its my least favorite out of the bunch, so far at least. Coletrain is coming along and its sativa traits have come out in flowering, it was the runt at one point and now is as tall as everything else. MK Ultra is behind most, but im sure it will catch up, I can see that its starting to pick up now, very dark leaves on her, I think she might turn purple, we'll see. Violator looks great, smells interesting, hard to explain. The Wembley I could give the same description for as the Violator, and the look similar as well, they almost look like twins, very unique smell as well, different than everything else in the room. But thats the same for each one. Sour Kush looks alright, I dont think its going to be a big producer but I think it will be killer shit. The chronic looks good too, I hope it puts out some huge buds, smells somewhat floral, I hope that changes, never been much of a fan of that. I think thats everything, 18 days in, and a far ways to go.

Damn Bro....good selection of dank you got growin there!!! Sour Kush is prob one of my next.....IDK.....Is having beans from over 15 diff strains a bad thing????? I can't stop ordering!!!!

Integra21 said:

You really have to mix up a batch of your nutrients to see what your normal ppms are at. Mine vary so greatly its not even funny. I feed the Blue Kush at 500-750ppms in flower, The Madonna wont let me give her anything over 350ppm. I used to feed the Blue Kush at 900ppm, but got much better results with the lower ppms. I know I read it all over, but for some odd reason I thought give them as much as they can handle. But running very low ppms and using fulvic acid or any other product that helps with nutrient uptake really seems like the way to go. I just changed my mix again for the Madonna, because it stayed in perfect health at 300ppm's with veg food, but 300ppm's of the flower mix and I started getting burning on the tips. I can believe any plant would burn 4 weeks into flower at 300ppms, but I guess I've seen everything now.

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I still don't quite understand this whole ppm thing and its connection to npk. The dyna-gro I use for vegging is 9-3-6, we'll use that as an example. So I put five ml into a gallon of water and stick the tds meter in there...what is it telling me? Is it the strength in ppm for the whole solution regardless of the npk values and whatever else you may have put into your water? Do you measure your amounts of cal-mag in ppm when you add it to your water? As you can tell I'm stumped as to how use this little gadget. As I progress in experience I have been doing my best to keep things simple and not over-complicate a grow. I've come to the conclusion the only real accurate way to tell how much nutrients you are really giving your girls is a tds meter. I've managed to do this past grow without ph'ing anything. The few times I did check it was right in the 6.5 range, but I also used well water almost the entire grow. Even with that said I think a tds meter is the way to go and I found a rather cheap hanna on e-bay, so what the heck.

After reading your response again jigfresh it made me think. I know you personal style is to try to give them as much as they can handle, pushing the envelope so to speak on the nute range and I've always been give them less more often. So after reading your approach so many times I've actually given my girls stronger doses more often this grow, they don't seem to like it, I've been battling yellowing problems for weeks now and the girls have finally won. I'm not really sure if they were never actually getting enough N, but they looked great for weeks and weeks or if it was after I gave them one dose of big bud from AN that starting causing the problem. I don't keep a journal where I write down everything but I do have two calendars where I jot down notes here and there and also keep the highs and lows for temp and humidity every day. It's just another reason I decided it was time to try a tds meter.

Hey HeadsUp, ppms is parts per million, so I think these meters are telling you how much nutrients are in the water, and not breaking down, this is the amount of N, this is the amount of...etc....you probably need a mass spectrometer for that, haha (perhaps not.) My understanding is that you measure your ppm going in, then you measure your run off to see what the ppm is in that. If it starts lowering I gueess you add more nutes as this shows the plants are using the nutes....

I don't know, think I'll stick with my natural eye like I always have. Good luck though.

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I got a ppm meter the other year , used it once or twice left it on till the bettery wore flat and never used it since. I was getting readfings of between 1000 and 1600 with a full feed in. I lean more towards jigfreshs style. Now i jus give em maximum dose in flower and half in veg, mine strat yellowing wen i stop in last three weeks. The clone onlys such as cheese and psychosis seem to drop leafs on a daily baisis reegardless of how much food i give em, the just die, dry up and fall off fucking things lol.

mr west said:

I got a ppm meter the other year , used it once or twice left it on till the bettery wore flat and never used it since. I was getting readfings of between 1000 and 1600 with a full feed in. I lean more towards jigfreshs style. Now i jus give em maximum dose in flower and half in veg, mine strat yellowing wen i stop in last three weeks. The clone onlys such as cheese and psychosis seem to drop leafs on a daily baisis reegardless of how much food i give em, the just die, dry up and fall off fucking things lol.

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The BX2 goes through leaves like there is no tomorrow. But seems to grow exceedling nice buds Mr Kipling!!!

Its like u put it in 12/12 and it says ok its autumn and ill drop all my leafs starting now and now and now lol.

shes like a propper slut, as soon as shes in the bedroom she strips down to the bare essentials instantly and waits for her buds to grow lol

I am actually leaning towards Integra's theory these days (well in my mind at least as there are no plants growing over here)... but using a lower dose with some sort of uptake booster seems the way to go. It's all experimenting for me anyhow. Plus I think hydro and soil are vastly different. See what works and remember different strains life wildly different things.

All I know for myself is I'm returning to lower doses more often my next grow, which is currently underway. My first dog, has gone missing, my second dog is still swimming in a cup of water. My headband x cali o did not want to shed the shell but after a little help it's off and she is growing. Casey Jones and og#18 are both doing well for their first few days of life. I've been spraying the soil with a very light mixture of worm poop tea, molasses and mycorrhizae for the root system. I love a good fungi. I use hygrozyme to help assist the root system in nutrient uptake. For the past few grows I've been more concentrating on the condition of the soil and keeping it healthy. I also use liquid karma every once in a while. I really want to try the guano tea thing but I'm not sure what kinds of guano do what. On wormsway.com that have a multi-pack of different guanos from the international house of guano, of all places that looks interesting and keeps nagging me in the back of my mind. And speaking of wormsway, here is a pic of the scissors I use to trim my girls. I've used several different kinds and in my humble opinion, these are by far the best. They are spring loaded so you don't have to manually open them, once you get the hang of them, you'll be snipping away like edward scissorhands. I buy a half dozen every time I order them. I think they are about three bucks each and well worth the money...and for anyone who uses chain, get ya' some rope ratchet light hangers, you won't regret buying the scissors or the light hangers.

Also, I don't use the finger hole when I trim. These little babies are very comfortable in your hand and collect great scissor hash cause the best way to trim the real good small leaves is to lay the scissors flat against your bud.

Two new pairs just waiting for harvest time.

Heads Up said:

Is it the strength in ppm for the whole solution regardless of the npk values and whatever else you may have put into your water?

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Yes....you got it. It is the amount of solids in the water.TDS,EC,PPM meters measure the electrical conductivity of the solution. Every salt in a multi-element solution has a different conductivity factor(N,P,K,Ca,Mg,Zn,Mn,Fe,B,Cl,Cu). Pure water will not conduct electrical current, but when elemental salts/metals are added, electrical conductivity increases proportionatly. Hope that helps.

Yes thank you that helps very much. So basically it has nothing to do with npk, it's measuring the strength of the total solution.

Here is the New Blue Diesel, big girl that finished at day 77.
Totally different pheno from the other diesels in the aspect that she has fewer trichs, a longer flowering time and her high is a lot more in the head.
Overall a very desirable smoke, and yes, there is a clone.
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On a sad note, it is with sad regret that I announce the passing of small dog.
She died peacefully last night due to unforseen circumstances and will be greatly missed by her two siblings and the entire dog community. May she rest in peace.


cof

Exactly.......for example RO water will have a PPM of 0 or near 0ppm because all of the solids are filtered out.....my tap water starts out at around 210-220ppm when I fill my res and when I let it sit for a day or so and pump it full of air with airstones to bubble out the chlorine it will read around 200-210ppm.....not much of a diff but it gives you an idea.

curious old fart said:

Here is the New Blue Diesel, big girl that finished at day 77.
Totally different pheno from the other diesels in the aspect that she has fewer trichs, a longer flowering time and her high is a lot more in the head.
Overall a very desirable smoke, and yes, there is a clone.
View attachment 1164924View attachment 1164923View attachment 1164922

On a sad note, it is with sad regret that I announce the passing of small dog.
She died peacefully last night due to unforseen circumstances and will be greatly missed by her two siblings and the entire dog community. May she rest in peace.


cof

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sorry to hear of ur loss cof>>>>>>>>>>>>>