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I doused my plants really good with azamax but did some research last night on thrips. I'm going to pic up a Fertilome product so I can treat the Lambsbread plants with it. I noticed signs last night on them now too but it's just barely starting. The vegging plants from my buddy's place are worse. His plants almost all are showing signs and some are worse than others.

Damn pests...
Good luck with it, dez.

It kind of looks more like damage from leaf hoppers, rather than thrips.
Thrips usually gouge long semi-erratic lines on the tops of leaves, where as leaf hopper damage is spots with no gouge lines on the tops of leaves.
And the little suckers are hard to spot, even when mobile (really fast, & tiny, and they flit from leaf to leaf and plant to plant) .
But if you shake some plants and are lucky, you might see one or more hopping about from the movement.
Like I said they are tiny, and fast, and only have to jump a few inches to evade.
I had a bad run with them a year and a half ago and used pyrethrin spray and got them under control in a week.

Dezracer said:

I have and have yet to see a bug.

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The reason I say this is cause,some of the LED grows I have seen,got them same spots...
And they say it was more of a micro def..

What is the feed like.

genuity said:

The reason I say this is cause,some of the LED grows I have seen,got them same spots...
And they say it was more of a micro def..

What is the feed like.

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They just went under the LED lights. they've been under flouro tube lights up to now.
They have been getting water only because they're in FFOF. I don't feed unless they're either flowering or of they sit on a particular container longer than a few weeks. My buddy's flowering plants are showing the signs though and his haven't seen LED lighting at all. His are actually a lot worse than mine. Mine just show here and there where his looks like it's on most of his plants.

I like that people are thinking outside the box. I don't ask for help very often and it really is appreciated.

I'm going to read up on what Doob is talking about too. Never hurts to learn summit new, right? Most of my flowering plants don't show any signs of trouble but there are a couple Lambsbread that have a few spots on a few leaves. They still have a ways to go so I'd like to nip this in the bud (no pun intended, lol).

What doob is describing is still thrips i believe:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrips

They go through several stages. Doing more damage as they progress. They eventually do fly. They also have kind of spring loaded jump they can do. Trust me this is what that is. You need to be extremely proactive. They will really hurt the plant and yield.

Hopefully it's not too late for his plants then. I saw that Thrips have different stages they go through.

It's too late to be proactive with most of his plants, that's for sure. We'll have to be in damage control mode at this point. He said he has been seeing the spots on his plants for at least a week now, maybe two.

get the product DST mentioned and get at em.

Seven will wipe them out and prevent in veg. I wouldnt use it on flowering plants.

I think its easier to get thrips when temps are up.

His temps are higher than mine are. I wonder if that's why he got them or if they came in some soil we purchased. Either way, I'll get on top of them asap in hopes of saving his yield.

Shake the plant good and hard and see what falls out. You will be surprised at the things you will find this way. I also hang sticky yellow cards to catch things.



I do not use the pesticide traps. Just sticky.

Cheers,
Mo

Good luck dez. I hate bugs, been blessed to not have them for a long time (knock on wood)

Whoa now, wait a minute.. I think I spoke too soon... I got looking hard at my plants after reading about your thripes.. Is this thripes? I thought moving to cali for legal grows would be so smooth, but I'm getting slammed with all sorts of new stuff since I been here!

I know dude. Rarely any pests until I moved back to Cali.. LOL!

I think you may have them at the early stages:

This year is worse than most because we had a warm winter. Didn't get that week of freeze that kills off the little ones.

im pulling for a much wetter winter. CA needs it.

according to the new Farmer's Almanac, enough rain to end the drought is not in the forecast.....for several years.


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SomeGuy said:

What doob is describing is still thrips i believe:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrips

They go through several stages. Doing more damage as they progress. They eventually do fly. They also have kind of spring loaded jump they can do. Trust me this is what that is. You need to be extremely proactive. They will really hurt the plant and yield.

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These are what I was referring to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leafhopper


They look like tiny little grasshoppers, 2mm to 3mm long, pale in color (the ones I dealt with were almost-white-grey and grey-green, but very light), and have wings that are kept close the the thorax and abdomen.
They made spots that mysteriously started appearing, and more kept showing up, but no bug could be found after several attempts.
Then I caught a glimpse of something jumping in the foliage when I bumped a plant and was able to track it down.
Not saying that his damage is a leaf hopper or three, just that it looks like the damage I got on mine from them.
I've never had spotted thrip damage, and hope I never do!
Why can't they all just leave our stuff alone!?

Dr.D81 said:

@glockdoc
The mom was a HSO CemDawg that look just like the cem #4pics i have seen, and was very stong smoke.
The blue dream dad came from a sack i got from my boy. He was gettig all top shelf mailed from cali for a year, and thatwas the best we got the whole time. I got one bean and it was a boy. There is i know one guy on here been running a cut from the same seeds for like 6 months now. It was the same dad ass the alligator kush i run and cof is flowering now. Hope this is what you where wanting to know

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haha nice its almost the exact opposite of what i did. i had hso bluedream x a strain called chemMat. it was chem d x a strain called menage a trio's...
the result was frost from bd and a cheesy musky funk from the chemMat. the haze smell was present in the air but not in the taste.
but in search of R.K.S. afghaniThai x afghaniSkunk
for real thou...keep me posted

Bahhhh hummmm buggggggsssss, i saw one really small bug when i shook the plant, and where there's one, there's more. Maintenance time! I also think it is the cali weather causing lots of grow problems, in ny i never had to cool my cloners or had any bug problems really, i did get mites a couple times, but that's over a 15 year period and it was easy to take care of that problem. Now it's like i have to learn a lot of new growing techniques lol. I just bought some pool shock for my cloner, never thought i'd have to use anything other than tap water but i also bought some hydroguard and pond zyme for my big res. I've never even knew these products existed.. let alone the fact I have no idea how to use them, thank god for RIU or i'd be SOL. I'll definitely be stocking up on new supplies and hoping i can keep everything under control. I'm glad it's starting to cool down here too, it was 100 plus degrees everyday for the past 3 months, today was only 90 woo hoo!

glockdoc said:

haha nice its almost the exact opposite of what i did. i had hso bluedream x a strain called chemMat. it was chem d x a strain called menage a trio's...
the result was frost from bd and a cheesy musky funk from the chemMat. the haze smell was present in the air but not in the taste.
but in search of R.K.S. afghaniThai x afghaniSkunk
for real thou...keep me posted

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I will it roots good i can say that anyway

ferti-lome has pyrethin....... all .25%, but it enough to be effective against mites and thrips.

I think I acquired thrips thru some bag soil. I should have snapped to something flying out of the bag when I opened it.


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