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canavi

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I have a 4 bulb 4' t5ho (about 200watts) over a 18" x 50" footprint with 4 feet of headroom. I have 12 plants of various bagseed under it right now vegging away in 4" pots. I'm going to keep at least 2 males, nice and tiny in 4 inche pots, for pollen to chuck on some females if they are nice.

I need help deciding what pots to purchase for the transplant. I'm thinking maybe 1 or 2 gallon pots and running little mini-scrogs on each pot and growing the canopy out to fill the footprint but keep it low and scrogged up. What would you do with a limited footprint and light penetration of T5's.

Gotta love a funky shaped closet grow :-).
 
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canavi

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Well, if I get half girls then I'm down to 6. My males are going to be extremely rootbound in their small pots but I don't care because all I want is their pollen to get some free seeds for outdoor.
 
Undercover Cop

Undercover Cop

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gotcha, 6 is doable. I dunno why I assumed you'd end up with all fems from bagseed... and I germinated 15 myself for a slightly larger area, so its not that strange afterall lol
 
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canavi

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Undercover Cop said:
gotcha, 6 is doable. I dunno why I assumed you'd end up with all fems from bagseed... and I germinated 15 myself for a slightly larger area, so its not that strange afterall lol
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I know why ;-)...

You think 6 females scrogged up in 2 or 3 gallon bags then? (I'm germing a few more in case I need the females. I found two beans in a nug I smoked tonight and I am def down to get something half as good as this haha).
 
Undercover Cop

Undercover Cop

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canavi said:
I know why ;-)...

You think 6 females scrogged up in 2 or 3 gallon bags then? (I'm germing a few more in case I need the females. I found two beans in a nug I smoked tonight and I am def down to get something half as good as this haha).
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Ive never scrogged before, although im sure it would work well under t5's (I need my plants individually mobile so they cant be tied into any netting). Im sure you could get 6 2Gal pots to fit under a 4ft fixutre pretty easily, You'd just have to keep them trimmed/scrogged so they dont get too big during flowering (unknown bagseeds could be looong stretchy sativas that take off in flowering) If you get short mostly indica strains, you could top them and keep em under 2ft tall total and still fit 6. If you're scrogging, you might be better off with 2-3 larger plants to fill in the screen, otherwise a SOG with shorter squatty indicas would be how I'd go :)
 
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canavi

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Undercover Cop said:
Ive never scrogged before, although im sure it would work well under t5's (I need my plants individually mobile so they cant be tied into any netting). Im sure you could get 6 2Gal pots to fit under a 4ft fixutre pretty easily, You'd just have to keep them trimmed/scrogged so they dont get too big during flowering (unknown bagseeds could be looong stretchy sativas that take off in flowering) If you get short mostly indica strains, you could top them and keep em under 2ft tall total and still fit 6. If you're scrogging, you might be better off with 2-3 larger plants to fill in the screen, otherwise a SOG with shorter squatty indicas would be how I'd go :)
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Awesome. We are on the same brain wavelength. I'll get some some shots up on this thread whenever shit starts getting hectic (fun).
 
C.Indica

C.Indica

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canavi said:
Well, if I get half girls then I'm down to 6. My males are going to be extremely rootbound in their small pots but I don't care because all I want is their pollen to get some free seeds for outdoor.
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May I suggest old school bonsai techniques for your males? What's the worst you could do, stress them into producing pistols?
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(This involves root-pruning, which would counter your rootbound issue)
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canavi

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C.Indica said:
May I suggest old school bonsai techniques for your males? What's the worst you could do, stress them into producing pistols?
:leaf:

(This involves root-pruning, which would counter your rootbound issue)
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I'm probably going to end up making a couple homemade root pruning pots by punching holes in a solo cup and lining it with landscape fabric (or whatever the appropriate fabric is).

A friend ran this bagseed once before (came from the same nug of bud), and I think he had a male shoot out a couple pistils after a cfl fell on it for over 24hrs hahaha. Literally just two pistils on the whole plant haha.

But yeah... Hopefully I will get a little viable pollen to mess around with.


Oh, and he eneded up with 2 females. One is a green phenotype, and one is straight fucking purple. THe day the buds started forming they were vibrant purple. Hopefully I get a purple one...
 
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puckhead

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I am a current t-5 user and I love it. I can grow the plants close to the light source without scorching the leaves. Heat isn't really that much of an issue. I am currently growing in a space that 32" wide, 16" deep, and only 34" high. Not a lot of space. I LST and top my girl. I leave her in the veg state for 9 weeks than flower. I find I have more tops. Indica is the way to go with this set up. I use them for my clones and seedlings. I would never use anything but.

I am in the process of designing a larger cabinet that I can house both my clone/seedling area and my harvesting plant. I plan to make it the bottom for future harvest. 5 ft high, 30 inches deep by 50 inches wide. Use the top which would be another 2 ft for my cloning area. Using t-5s all the way. I am running deep water culture and hope to have enough space to grow up to 4 plants. If anyone has any advice I would love to hear it.

I am loving that there is an area devoted to t-5 users. I wish everyone happy contentment. Thanks.
 
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BakedinAlaska

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I just got back into gardening after about 10 years of not growing. I started to use the T-5's for veg. (6700) and just love them.
They work great along with my 150 Watt HPS that I use the 1st week of 12 hour and I get flowers in 4 to 5 days.
 
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jasetheface

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I recently purchsed x 2 T5 8 tube lights with red and blue bulbs and plan to grow 8 big plants on a rotation basis from fem seed and by taking cuttings of the plants as they grow.Hopefully on plant rotation basis of veg fklower veg flower etc Any advice most welcomed.Should of added im growing in wilma 2x 4 big pot system with clay pebbles
 
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pedro420

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Going to get a new bulb setup going on when I get the chance

What you think
Veg= 2x 3k /2x 64k /2x 10k
Flower= 2x 54k /4x 3k
mothers=2x 54k / 2x 10k
Maby upgrade moms light to a 6 bulb and add some more 54k bulbs
 
Undercover Cop

Undercover Cop

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pedro420 said:
Going to get a new bulb setup going on when I get the chance

What you think
Veg= 2x 3k /2x 64k /2x 10k
Flower= 2x 54k /4x 3k
mothers=2x 54k / 2x 10k
Maby upgrade moms light to a 6 bulb and add some more 54k bulbs
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None of those bulbs have any photosynthetically usable red light, and they all have far too much wasted green/yellow/orange light to be able to get the full capability out of your T5's, look into some BlueActinic/RedSun/FloraSun/PlantGrow bulbs. Not saying its impossible to use the generic white-ish bulbs, just like HPS bulbs work with less than optimal spectrum, but you can get increased bud density, increased trichome production, increased terpenoid/flavinoid production etc etc etc which will give you a much higher quality bud with a yield that can even approach HID watt for watt. If you're gonna buy bulbs, study up on the light composition of each bulb and put together a spectrum blend that will more closely match the sun... 5400k's are mostly green, used in commercial apps like offices where bright light is needed for people to read and see comfortably, and humans see best at 555nmGreen, the brightest colors for plants are 440nmBlue and 660nmRed.

the 10000k's have the least green out of all the bulbs you listed, but they still have nothing over 610nmOrange which is where plants begin to use the Reds.
 
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pedro420

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I have done a lot of the searching I have followed the profs thread was just wanting to know if these would
be better than normal just 64k/3k

But from the profs thread I would use
2x florasun 2x plantgrowth =flower
2x plantgrowth 2x blue actinic= veg

But currently I only have a 4 bulb fixture I'm going to be upgrading to a 6 or 8 bulb badboy

I would defiantly go for the 8 bulb but I don't know if it would fit in my tent because they are the same size in width (24in)
 
Undercover Cop

Undercover Cop

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Radiion 8 bulbs are 18"w...

both combos would work, for flower you'll need more overall light output (8bulbs) to get a decent yield, but the spectrums would work. The plantgrowths are about twice as expensive as florasuns ($9 at Aquariumguys.com)

For veg I would use 2 florasuns on the outside of a Wavepoint ReefWave 420nm and BlueWave 460nm in the center, under $30 for those bulbs

For Flower I would use 2 florasuns on the outside of a RedSun and a CoralWave. repeated pattern for an 8bulb.


Red Suns are the only bulb ive mentioned here over $10, but they are only red 630nm which is lacking in the Florasuns. The CoralWave is a ReefWave with added IR 740-760nm which will help trigger flowering. FloraSuns are 6500k bulbs with blue/green but 630nm through 660nm red instead of a spike at 610nm orange like commercial bulbs. They appear very pink
 
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