COCO PEEPS! the best coco nutrient range? any secret recipes?

jberry

jberry

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ManOnFire said:
Advanced, Canna, House and Garden, Dutch Master are all pretty much on par. I know people who use them all on a rotation basis and they cant see a difference, other than price. Canna and HG are twice the price of Advanced or Dutch here.
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i find all of that hard to believe. and the thread is about the best niutrient range for people growing in Coco. Canna has been the leader in Coco research for over 22 years and ive never heard anything bad about them. H&G is the shit and gives great results.

talking people into using AN or Dutchmasters over H&G and Canna is just wrong imo.
 
cappeeler09

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thanks alot bro...have u used cannaboost and over drive and have used them together aswell....i want to be sure so i dont kill my plants because people
have told me not to use over drive with or after cannaboost...i really want to use it as i know it gives good results i just want to be 100% sure because
because this is my first grow and i dont want it to die
 
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ManOnFire

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jberry said:
i find all of that hard to believe. and the thread is about the best niutrient range for people growing in Coco. Canna has been the leader in Coco research for over 22 years and ive never heard anything bad about them. H&G is the shit and gives great results.

talking people into using AN or Dutchmasters over H&G and Canna is just wrong imo.
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So I can only gather that you have used all these and have confirmed this? Or are you just saying out aloud what you think should be the case? Very few people I know use H&G, some use Canna, and the majority use DM. The people using Canna get no better results that those using DM. And if you had a great knowedge about growing you would realize that the A&B nuts are the lowest giver of yeilds. The addatives used in the flower phase dictate sucess.
 
jberry

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havent used many AN products and dont plan too other than hammerhead and their ph down.
Everything else ive used.
House & Garden gives the best results by far in my experience but u cant reuse coco when you use the entire H&G line, so thats why my choice is canna... the company with the largest data base, most experience, and 20+ years of research dedicated to cocoponics...
i think AN claims they have 3 years of coco research...

are all the companies that u listed good? ... yes i think they are, but when it come to COCO grows i think h&g and canna are the best choice...
i said b4 that it was just my opinion. i wasnt trying to come off so harsh, i just do sometimes.

what additives are you talkin? i use all the nutes and additives suggested by whatever company im using as well as cal/mag, trichaderma, michorhizons, and other benificial bacterias/organisms. Am i missing something?
 
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ManOnFire

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jberry said:
havent used many AN products and dont plan too other than hammerhead and their ph down.
Everything else ive used.
House & Garden gives the best results by far in my experience but u cant reuse coco when you use the entire H&G line, so thats why my choice is canna... the company with the largest data base, most experience, and 20+ years of research dedicated to cocoponics...
i think AN claims they have 3 years of coco research...

are all the companies that u listed good? ... yes i think they are, but when it come to COCO grows i think h&g and canna are the best choice...
i said b4 that it was just my opinion. i wasnt trying to come off so harsh, i just do sometimes.

what additives are you talkin? i use all the nutes and additives suggested by whatever company im using as well as cal/mag, trichaderma, michorhizons, and other benificial bacterias/organisms. Am i missing something?
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Im talking about PGR's, Rock super grow etc. I have used Canna, although not H&G. I have also used AN and Dutch Master. With the same set up (lights, coco etc) there was no difference in yield between the different grows. Thats what I am pointing out. If their was a noticeable difference in yield I would be using it. But hey, to each their own. Thats half the fun of growing I think, trying everything and comming up with your prefered method.
 
jberry

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my yield went up like 15% -20% when using H&G. Canna has a cleaner product but i think g&h is really great.
I used dutch masters line outdoors, so i admit that its kinda hard to compare it to anything indoor but i wasnt that impressed, for how much it costs. But you were right originally when you said they were all good products.
 
cappeeler09

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so is it possible that i can use cannaboost then switch over to advanced nutrients over drive without killing my plants
 
jberry

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cappeeler09 said:
so is it possible that i can use cannaboost then switch over to advanced nutrients over drive without killing my plants
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why would it hurt your plants? i dont understand the reasoning of people saying that?

canna boost is not a fertilizer and over drive is... you should be able to use them together unless somebody knows something i dont?
 
cappeeler09

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Do u think,i dont know because the man in the shop i go said dont but i never do beleve him anyway.... Would u have a look on my profile at my pics of my 1st crop...its blue cheese
 
jberry

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heres what the canna website says about the boost (sounds like you can use it and your shop guy is wrong):

"CANNABOOST is a universal flowering stimulant; this means it can be used in every cultivation system and in combination with every kind of feeding without exception."
 
cappeeler09

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jberry

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your plants look good, and if you are really worried about mixing the two products than just stop using the boost when you switch to overdrive... if you do that you will not have any problems. I have never used Overdrive, but out of all the A.N. products i have heard the most good things about overdrive... you will be just fine... start with a low dose for your first couple overdrive feedings to make sure you dont burn your plants, just to be safe than slowly increase up to recommended level.
 
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madazz

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hey JB i got a friend who uses canna coco and all the nutrient range the same as i do. 1 thing he uses is Pythoff, woudn't that affect the benifical bacteria in the coco? i cant find out anything saying it will, only found on the flairform website it says it can be used with coco, but doesn't say anything on the affects etc. do u know this product? and can u tell me if this were being used would you still use canna zym? any help is appreciated.

madazz:weed:
 
jberry

jberry

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madazz said:
hey JB i got a friend who uses canna coco and all the nutrient range the same as i do. 1 thing he uses is Pythoff, woudn't that affect the benifical bacteria in the coco? i cant find out anything saying it will, only found on the flairform website it says it can be used with coco, but doesn't say anything on the affects etc. do u know this product? and can u tell me if this were being used would you still use canna zym? any help is appreciated.

madazz:weed:
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sorry i havent logged on in a while....

that product will kill your benificial bacteria and i wouldnt use it... thats just my feeling on it tho.
 
jberry

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holayall said:
so again . Whats a great alternative to cannaboost???
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Im not aware of any "great alternative" but Co2 enrichment would give some similar effects and then some...

The Co2 will only work well if all the environmental conditions are just right.
The Cannaboost is the opposite, If your conditions are not perfect then the cannaboost would likely help, but if you already have all conditions dialed in just right and the plants are already as healthy as can be then using the cannaboost probably wouldnt be much of a benefit besides possibly knocking off a few days of your normal flowering time... these are just my experiences tho.

I dont use it at all any more but if I were to use it again it would be as a foliar feed... works better and uses a fraction of the product but you cant spray it too deep into the flowering cycle.
 
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