coco vs sunshine mix #4 advanced?
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I use Sunshine Advanced Mix #4, from seed to harvest. I never have to cut it or mix it and it comes pre-innoculated with Mycorrhizae. I'm not sure what you are asking when you say, "...clones into SM#4 out of the bag"? But after I root in an AeroCloner they move to Sunshine Mix for the rest of their life.
cool thanks. yeah i was asking if it is to hot to put fresh rooted clones in
It isn't hot, there are zero nutrients in it. I sprout seeds, directly, in it.
That's what I thought but when I googled sm#4 I found some old threads about it burning people's clones up. Thank you I appreciate it
There are a lot of very loaded people about
So keep watching. Anyway here's my clones all in Advanced Sunshine Mix #4
WestDenverPioneer
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I like the product and use it by itself or to cut FFOF
d0rk2dafullest
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i'd use the ss#4 for fresh rooted clones, you would feed it every other day and it would take and drink it very nicely. if u use pure coco tho, without perlite, feed once every 3 days, i am noticing my rooted clones are not drinking as fast. so i have to feed once every 2-3 days. my advice is to use ss#4 for ur clones, and then switch to pure coco when u transplant for flower. that drainage is nice for the first weeks of veg. u can ALSO mix the 2 together. and get a very nice blend. up to u tho.
cool thanks. ive been growing in pure coco and 50/50 coco/ perlite for about 4 years now and have had nothing but success. im interested to see how SM#4 advanced compares.
yeah ive been growing in pure coco for a few years now and it is great. but the place i buy my coco from was out and someone offered me a few bags of advanced for free. the SM#4 advanced also has a decent amount of coco in it where as the regular SM#4 doesnt.
ive never used coco specific nutes but i certainly thought about it alot. when i first started i used fox farms nutes in DWC and coco lol but i still got decent results. i run AN now and love it.
Advanced Sunshine Mix #4 has NO peat! It's coco base. I started in NFT and now use it exclusively. I am very happy with it. My flower room about a week ago. (That is a 1000 HPS but I shot through my Method 7's).
I use a mix of Dyna Gro Foliage Pro and General Hydroponics Flora Series.
Aeroknow
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No, it has peat also
Ingregients:
Peat Moss, Coir, Perlite, a Multi-species Blend of Endomycorrhizae
http://sunshineadvanced.com/products
I tried it when it first came out. I wasn't super impressed. I would rather either grow in a coco/perlite mix. Or just a regular peat based dirt. With that said, I'm growing at another location rite now with Black Magic moisture control
A peat/coco/castings blend. Works good also.
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No, it has peat also
Ingregients:
Peat Moss, Coir, Perlite, a Multi-species Blend of Endomycorrhizae
http://sunshineadvanced.com/products
I tried it when it first came out. I wasn't super impressed. I would rather either grow in a coco/perlite mix. Or just a regular peat based dirt. With that said, I'm growing at another location rite now with Black Magic moisture control
Thanks! I have no wish to use Peat. When I initially looked into using this the bags only listed Coco Coir. So now I will be changing mixes. I really appreciate your pointing this out with the reference. Really pisses me off because my mentor told me to use Sunshine #4 (not the advanced) and I refused because it had Peat, sigh.
I'd give you some rep if the board still had it LOL.
Annie
man i miss the rep system. I used to be a somebody
lol. oh well. new account fresh start
man i miss the rep system. I used to be a somebody
Yeah but ya gotta admit that at least the ignore works a treat LOL! Oh and I'm at best an intermediate grower
I am a nobody 'round these parts LOL
d0rk2dafullest
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My mentor from LA recommended this to me too. I actually like the advanced as well. He grows Faceoff OG and gets 1.5 lb Per light with it. But even though it's good for HIS strains, I've gone back to Coco myself. I did use promix for a while though. and although i prefer coco. Promix HP DID give me some good results. For me i'd use the peatbased for clones, and then gradually transition into pure coco. I've done some side by side comparisons and promix vegging i think is superior to coco, simply because the drainage is there and the roots THRIVE in it. Coco, however is good BUT i didnt find that drainage that promix had. I know i could always add more perlite, but i hate having to buy things to make my coco. I'd rather buy a cocoblend of coco/perlite already in a bag. But Sunshine Mix is very good. You should consider using that for your clones, and then transitioning to coco for flowering. I just like to feed on schedule and coco sometimes doesnt allow me to do that. I'd have to wait 2-3 days before my next watering vs every other day. i guess that could be a good thing cuz i kinda get a day off of watering and in turn saving nutes, but i like routine. haha. Jw though, Why do u refuse to use peatbased mixes? is there a reason? were u getting lockouts while using peatbased like the other guy?
Aeroknow
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Correction, it's Black Gold moisture control, not black magic duh! LolNo, it has peat also
Ingregients:
Peat Moss, Coir, Perlite, a Multi-species Blend of Endomycorrhizae
http://sunshineadvanced.com/products
I tried it when it first came out. I wasn't super impressed. I would rather either grow in a coco/perlite mix. Or just a regular peat based dirt. With that said, I'm growing at another location rite now with Black Magic moisture control
Anyways, the stuff is pretty good. And like I had said, I usually like it one or the other(peat based OR coco/perlite blend).
We started little ones in promix hp, then up-potted our way into 7gals with the BM moisture control. They are rockin.
I'm still mainly using Sanctuary brand Big City Hydro mix for most my grows. I love how you don't need to break up any coco. Ready rite out the bag, just like the BM moisture control is. Breaking up bails of promix HP or sunshine mix blows. Easy Peasy, thats what it's all about for me these days
