Coloured fluorescent lights and their viability in growing chambers

Dont Fear The Reefer said:

Check it out dude....

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/358190-led-without-leds-my-first.html

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I've gone over soo many of those grows and have yet to see anyone yield considerably more or better bud than just 6500/2700k bulbs. I will guarantee you that if they ran four times as much wattage (for the same price) that they would see considerably larger yields.

I saw some person spending $75 per bulb... That's 1500% more expensive than a standard bulb. How can anyone possible argue that cost per gram they are more efficient? And when running dozens of $75 bulbs to cover a very small area...

It costs $4.32 to run a 54w T5 for 8 weeks at 12/12. So you can run 5 54w 2700k bulbs or 1 54w actinic. 25,000 lumen of 2700k or 5,000 lumen of 20,000k...hmm...

mysunnyboy said:

i thought we were being pretty clear about that cannabutt. guess we're not on the same wavelength as canadian1969.

one more time, red paint, plastic, dye, etc. will not help a mariuana plant flower. it's apples and oranges canada. the color (and yes my 2700k lights appear red, while the 6500k appear blue) is not determined by the color of the GLASS but by the temperature kelvin produced. but by all means, you go ahead and use a red glass light bulb. good luck with that.

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hey idiot hey used the 700nm wave length(its a spectrum measument of light figure it out) as a term to express his understanding of what he means of implied intentions by colored bulb in first post, fucking assclown cant even read

Hey Gastanker.

I really appreciate the knowledge you show.
If indeed I was so stupid as to try and grow plants with that sample picture I posted to demo various T8 spectrum bulbs, well, the plant would not grow under that combo, it might not die but it would be one useless plant I tell you what.

And those are 48" actinics, the cheap ones are $23.

I paid $56 each locally for the UVB, and they wear out much quicker than real lights.
Those verticals are indeed 17 watt UVB lizard lights, $30 each and also short lived. That is one fixture of five I use, 10 UV bulbs in all.

Before you waste too much more time explaining, no I do not grow my plant and bud it with just a 170 watt UVB surround, geez.

Next time instead of working so hard to show how stupid I am, why not just ask why the picture shows an arrangement of lights that would be nonfunctional for growing.

I am not sure what part of T5 lights really need improvement. Here is a scrog I grew start to finish with a 6 bulb T5. This is at about 5 weeks.

8 bulb Quantum T5 using aquarium bulbs ala Pr0fessor's thread. I am using a combination of UVL (Aqua Suns, and Red Life) ATI (deep blue), and Coral Technologies (mix of red/blue). These photos (one plant) are 6 days old and have done a lot of bulking up since then. Unfortunately, temps have been warm here mid 80s day & low 70s night, which combine to slow tric production. Still:

Phaeton said:

Hey Gastanker.

I really appreciate the knowledge you show.
If indeed I was so stupid as to try and grow plants with that sample picture I posted to demo various T8 spectrum bulbs, well, the plant would not grow under that combo, it might not die but it would be one useless plant I tell you what.

And those are 48" actinics, the cheap ones are $23.

I paid $56 each locally for the UVB, and they wear out much quicker than real lights.
Those verticals are indeed 17 watt UVB lizard lights, $30 each and also short lived. That is one fixture of five I use, 10 UV bulbs in all.

Before you waste too much more time explaining, no I do not grow my plant and bud it with just a 170 watt UVB surround, geez.

Next time instead of working so hard to show how stupid I am, why not just ask why the picture shows an arrangement of lights that would be nonfunctional for growing.

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That is some ego... I wasn't calling you stupid - chill. Don't even know what pictures you're talking about.

I'm stating that $23 per bulb doesn't make sense. You would be better off running twice as many of the $4 bulbs than half as many of the $23 bulbs. 15% yield doesn't warrant the extreme increase in price.

If you want to spend much much more to make more potent bud - then by all means do so but don't go around recommending aquarium bulbs... By all means spread the good word of UV, but UV will not increase yield by 15%... (and even if it did it still wouldn't be economically feasible)

I run +/-200w of UV in my tent - this is a preference as I believe it produces higher quality bud. Does it pencil in? No... I would never recommend a ton of UV if people are growing for maximum g/$. And no, UV bud doesn't sell for so much more than you make the money back. I'll recommend UV to grow higher quality bud, but nothing else.

Aquarium bulbs don't pencil in. They make no sense as they don't significantly increase yield or potency.

Samwell Seed Well said:

hey idiot hey used the 700nm wave length(its a spectrum measument of light figure it out) as a term to express his understanding of what he means of implied intentions by colored bulb in first post, fucking assclown cant even read

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are you calling me an "assclown"?

Well gastanker, part of the problem, I don't grow with aquarium bulbs. This is not sinking in.

UVB cuts plant size back, I'm not sure why you think I see them as bigger. In your mind only.

I fail to see where I recommend growing with aquarium bulbs, I rarely recommend anything at all, grows are too different. Reading what isn't there?

I posted a picture of various fluorescent bulbs, you took exception and pointed out the money I was wasting, the electricity I was wasting and the lack of intelligence I was displaying. What made you think it was an active grow picture?

I never was nor am I now growing how you accuse me. That you keep insisting I am kinda bothers me.

The quantum meter reads 697 umol 1/2" from the quantum 6400 T5 grow light.
The reading 1/2" from the actinic tube is 129.

Golly, what silly numbers, I think I will pay 3 times the price for 1/4 the light and recommend this light in public.
Chill? I am pretty stinking offended by the misinformation you are posting making me look stupid. Yeah, I have a problem with that.

I never have nor do I now recommend growing bud with coral growth aquarium lights. High Frequency blue and ultraviolet light both will inhibit cell division in root tips and branch ends, neither of which increase yields.

http://donklipstein.com/f-spec.html will show what fluorescents actually emit and how.

http://youcannect.com/blogs/564/29light-spectrum-charts-ushio-hortilux-sun-master-solar-max will show what plants see and a few HID spectrums.

I try to give only information that is good. I do not tell people what is better for them, only what happened with me.

For you to go on a rave about wasted money and bad lighting and questionable yields and then connect this admonishment to my name does piss me off, you may have noticed by now.

Ranting is me making myself look bad, this also pisses me off, only not at you.

Phaeton said:

Well gastanker, part of the problem, I don't grow with aquarium bulbs. This is not sinking in.

UVB cuts plant size back, I'm not sure why you think I see them as bigger. In your mind only.

I fail to see where I recommend growing with aquarium bulbs, I rarely recommend anything at all, grows are too different. Reading what isn't there?

I posted a picture of various fluorescent bulbs, you took exception and pointed out the money I was wasting, the electricity I was wasting and the lack of intelligence I was displaying. What made you think it was an active grow picture?

I never was nor am I now growing how you accuse me. That you keep insisting I am kinda bothers me.

The quantum meter reads 697 umol 1/2" from the quantum 6400 T5 grow light.
The reading 1/2" from the actinic tube is 129.

Golly, what silly numbers, I think I will pay 3 times the price for 1/4 the light and recommend this light in public.
Chill? I am pretty stinking offended by the misinformation you are posting making me look stupid. Yeah, I have a problem with that.

I never have nor do I now recommend growing bud with coral growth aquarium lights. High Frequency blue and ultraviolet light both will inhibit cell division in root tips and branch ends, neither of which increase yields.

I try to give only information that is good. I do not tell people what is better for them, only what happened with me.

For you to go on a rave about wasted money and bad lighting and questionable yields and then connect this admonishment to my name does piss me off, you may have noticed by now.

Ranting is me making myself look bad, this also pisses me off, only not at you.

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I read this:

Phaeton said:

I use colored T5 aquarium tubes for sidelights.

Glad I am not a silly person.
When the box says "party bulb" and the price is $1.59 then the product is going to be different than one that says "maximum growth", has a spectral output graph and a price of $23.79.
Sure enough, the party bulbs don't grow and the grow bulbs don't party.

I doubt painted bulbs would increase my yield by 15% like the Zoo Med Flora Sun T5 HO's do.

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Here you state that you use T5 aquarium bulbs, that they increase your yield by 15%, and that the $23 grow bulbs work better than cheap party bulbs - this last one I realize is not a comparison to regular T5s but it does appear that you support the use of $23 bulbs.

I am not trying to attack you. I have no reason to want to make you look bad. I am not even trying to inform you. My original post quoting yours was to illustrate to others that they are not cost effective - nothing else. You seem to agree so I don't see what the problem is. I appologize for quoting you - I should have obviously picked someone else to illustrate my point.

Phaeton said:

Ranting is me making myself look bad, this also pisses me off, only not at you.

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Calm down - no one is trying to attack you. Honestly.

Yep, it's the TEMP. in Kelvin, not the visible that we see. I thought the same awhile back, bought a red party bulb, then researched and learned about the light spectrum. Wasted money for red party bulb!