Combo aeroponic / bubbleponic?
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gohydro
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3"net pots. Dual outlet airpump with (2) 12" airstones.
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UserFriendly
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IMHO, any kind of aero-hybrid setup isn't going to do as well as a pure aero rig.
Bean 420
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I bought 4 12" air stones for fish aquariums. I thought the more the better is this true? besides the air stones I was going to make a figure 8 shape out of black 1/4" poly tube with misters evenly spaced an suspend it under the lid of the around the nets. are 3" nets big enough to go from start to finish?
chronicj69
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yes this is true about the air stone the more the better
racer3456
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I would tend to agree with this as well. I would do one or the other. If you are going to do aeroponics, do it all the way, otherwise there is no point once the plant is large. It will be getting almost all of its nutrients from the bubbleponics part at the time. In my opinion, I would rather have a bubbleponics anyways. You'll grow massive trees!
racer3456
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The amount they help between a DWC/bubbleponics and aero system is negligible. Ask anyone here who grows with a DWC method, and they will tell you the same thing. You don't need them. Use one or the other.
It basically works like this. You put the water level up till it just touches the net pot, maybe a 1/2 cm below if you want. Put the air pump on the highest setting, and the bubbles will splash up and hit the net pot, almost just like aeroponics. As someone told me once, "It's all in the pops." You don't want to submerge the netpot, you just want the popping bubbles to splash over the bottom of it. The roots grow crazy with this. Trust me.
LonghornFan
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Just have to remember each plant will take up that 5 gallon bucket. So I keep them in wach tub seperate. good luck
racer3456
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Yes, lower it once the roots have grown a few inches down into the water. I usually like to keep it 2 or 3 inches below the bottom of the net pots.
UserFriendly
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DWC is solid.
Realclosetgreenz
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True aeroponics dont use airstones because the roots are suspended in the air all the time. IF your roots touch water its a DWC and thats it, even then air stones aren't needed as long as you keep water levels low enough. ive found air stones just make allgey. Ive been runnin my bubbleponics with out one from day one and things are great!
gohydro
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Hmmmm...and what creates the air bubbles in your bubbleponic system?
racer3456
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That's what I was wondering. Does anyone else know if this is true? Can the air by itself supply enough O2 if you leave the water level that low? I personally wouldn't do it anyways because it seems like it would be a nightmare to keep in check as far as EC and pH goes, and probably constantly adding water too.
Realclosetgreenz
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my water is about a quarter of the way up and im using a 36 gal tub instead the original dinky one. there's plenty of room for roots to thrive both in water and air. trust me air stones are useless unless roots are COMPLETELY submerged. "Cause what happens when oxygen is pumped thru the air stone?" it floats to the top due to the gas molecules being lighter than water. they don't magically diffuse into the water.
gohydro
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I guess we should ignore the intended use of airstones....TO DIFFUSE OXYGEN IN WATER FOR FISH. You spoke of "true aeroponics". Very few people here are doing "true aeroponics". The sprayers are not capable of delivering a droplet small enough to be properly absorbed and few people have pumps strong enough to supply the pressure needed for fog like sprays.
Airstones DO provide a benefit....ask many of the oldschool growers here. The ideal situation is to have a deep tub (OR a separate rez) so you can have plenty of solution AND have roots suspended in air. Low solution levels are a pain in the ass to deal with because you have too much PH/Nute fluctuation.
Microracer87
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Where can someone find such fogger or sprayers that produce such a fine mist?
gohydro
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Google it but remember it's not only the mister heads...you'll need a good pump too.