Completely Stumped

carminef

carminef

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I have been flowering White Widows from seed from Amsterdam for 15 weeks and my trichomes haven't changed at all. The tops are beautiful, full and heavy, 80 percent of my hairs have turned, but the trichomes just stay glassy. I'm sure their root bound at this point, as I really screwed up on these, as I didn't start to flower until they were 48 inches with 600 watt HPS. Their full of tops and from what I sampled, great! Should I wait or do my thing? If there's more to come I'll just keep feeding them. Here's my feed, this is what I'm up to per gallon; 2 table spoons of molasses, 1 teasp of NPK 7-50-6, 2 drops of super thrive, 2 table spoons of Hydrogen Peroxide and 1 tablespoon of Bat Guane . My leaves look ok, obviously their wilting, but that's due to their phase of life. Any and all imput would be greatly appreciated
 
RemeberMe

RemeberMe

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The trichomes are supposed to be that way. You better harvest now before thos trichomes fall off and your plants are ruined.
 
RickWhite

RickWhite

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Try looking at them from the top down. 15 weeks isn't that long for Sativas, Don't wory until you see amber. Then trim the fan leaves, cut the lights for about 5 days and flush. They will be plenty milky after that.
 
carminef

carminef

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are you serious with advice like that, this isn't exactly my first grow, I can't even believe someone would make such a statement (Remeberme) , I thought this post was listed in advanced growing?

RemeberMe said:
The trichomes are supposed to be that way. You better harvest now before thos trichomes fall off and your plants are ruined.
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RemeberMe

RemeberMe

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Welll I don't get it, why would you want them anything but glassy???? Next they turn opaque and fall off and on some strains that happens very quickly.

This is from an article "
Some cultivators wait for about half of the secretory cavities to go opaque before harvesting, to ensure maximum THC levels in the finished product. Of course nothing tells the truth more than your own perception, so try samples at various stages to see what is best for you & the phenotype your are growing. While you may be increasing the total THC level in the bud by allowing half of the glands to go opaque, the bud will also have a larger percentage of THC breakdown products such as CBN, which is why some people choose to harvest earlier while most of the secretory cavities are still clear."

Article is here: http://growingmarijuana.org/?p=143
 
growlegal

growlegal

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carminef said:
I have been flowering White Widows from seed from Amsterdam for 15 weeks and my trichomes haven't changed at all. The tops are beautiful, full and heavy, 80 percent of my hairs have turned, but the trichomes just stay glassy. I'm sure their root bound at this point, as I really screwed up on these, as I didn't start to flower until they were 48 inches with 600 watt HPS. Their full of tops and from what I sampled, great! Should I wait or do my thing? If there's more to come I'll just keep feeding them. Here's my feed, this is what I'm up to per gallon; 2 table spoons of molasses, 1 teasp of NPK 7-50-6, 2 drops of super thrive, 2 table spoons of Hydrogen Peroxide and 1 tablespoon of Bat Guane . My leaves look ok, obviously their wilting, but that's due to their phase of life. Any and all imput would be greatly appreciated
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I grow alot of sativas and the trichrome rule doesn't always apply.
I like to sample mine a little and I am looking for an up cerebral stone.
You said you liked it, the sample.
I am not an "expert"but if possible I would lift them from the container add a couple inches of fresh soil underneath and top dress. I would then let them go 2 weeks with just a sweet or mollasses flush and call it good.
After all with sativas I am looking for a nice up buzz without the paranoia.
Then again that is just me.lol:eyesmoke:
 
Brick Top

Brick Top

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Unless you got some super-freak almost totally sativa phenotype there is no reason for it to have taken this long for your plants too fully mature.

Going by the general flowering time given for that strain from that breeder you are one week from flowering for twice as long as the breeder claims is needed.
　
Reeferman’s Willie Nelson is 100% sativa and it has a 10 to 12 week flowering time so I cannot believe that any White Widow, a sativa/indica cross, needs 15 or more weeks to fully mature.
　
The trichome color thing still applies to sativas but in something of a more advanced rate so you have to alter the colors a bit. Just a trichome stalk that has turned slightly cloudy or slightly milky white but the trichome head itself is still clear more equates to a fully cloudy milky trichome head that the charts would claim on average and a fully cloudy milky trichome head is more like one that has begin to turn slightly amber … when dealing with a real sativa.
　
Not that the effects are so pronounced or advanced when it comes to any additional degree of body effect sinec we are in this case talking about a pure sativa but more in that it hit max THC levels a bit earlier than crosses so if someone it growing a sativa and wants max THC levels they can use the trich charts but just consider them to be slightly behind the actual progress of their plants at the general same color … and in some cases never make it to certain colors. I have seen sativas grown until they dried up and the trichome heads fell off but they still were not close to being dark amber … just some slightly amber at most and some were cloudy or milky with some only partially cloudy or milky.
　
I say if you are pleased with the effects there is nothing to gain by waiting that will offset what might be lost so if it were me I would harvest.
 
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born2killspam

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15 weeks is about as long as the slowest sativas, and I've seen sick/abused plants 'mature' predictably everytime..
I can't believe you haven't sampled some.. Regardless of what the state, I can't imagine anything changing for the better after this..
In future crops you should feel free to stagger harvest a plant once a reasonable time is reached.. The plants won't mind at all so late in life.. Chopping some upper branches will just help the lowers catch up a bit.. Its a good thing..
 
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