GENERALIVXX
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will getting an MMJ liscense have any effect on a multistate concealed weapons permit?
Concealed Weapons Permit effected by MMJ Liscense
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GENERALIVXX
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ok well what if i was to smoke a joint and then go to the store with my gun and CCW would i be in violation of the CCW law?
EDIT: or in simple terms If i was high and carrying my gun with my CCW license am i violating CCW law?
Buddreams
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Well you cant carry in a bar, or handle a gun while intoxicated. And you can get a DWI for smoking and driving. I would lean toward caution on that one.
potberto
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I'm pretty sure in CA you will lose your CCW if you have a MMJ ticket.. Federally it's a mind altering psychotic crazy drug still. EDIT: Here's something I found:
A Washington state medical marijuana activist who nearly killed an intruder in his home this month has been barred from buying guns, even though he says he has no criminal record.
Steve Sarich said he tried to buy a shotgun and a pistol a few days after the March 15 shootout to replace ones that were seized by investigators, but he failed the background check.
The King County Sheriff's Office sent him an e-mail Tuesday explaining the denial. It says that Sarich showed investigators his paperwork as a medical marijuana patient, and those papers create a presumption that Sarich is an "unlawful user" of a controlled substance.
The sheriff's office says that under federal law, using a controlled substance disqualifies someone from passing a background check for gun purchases.
Fuckers.
A Washington state medical marijuana activist who nearly killed an intruder in his home this month has been barred from buying guns, even though he says he has no criminal record.
Steve Sarich said he tried to buy a shotgun and a pistol a few days after the March 15 shootout to replace ones that were seized by investigators, but he failed the background check.
The King County Sheriff's Office sent him an e-mail Tuesday explaining the denial. It says that Sarich showed investigators his paperwork as a medical marijuana patient, and those papers create a presumption that Sarich is an "unlawful user" of a controlled substance.
The sheriff's office says that under federal law, using a controlled substance disqualifies someone from passing a background check for gun purchases.
Fuckers.
GENERALIVXX
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wow i believe that that sheriffs office is in the wrong hes not illegally using so it makes no sense why he should be barred from buying guns thats ridiculous
killa killa kk
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Ive heard it complicates the process of getting your concealed weapons permit but its just like getting employment you dont go in announcing your a mmj patient. I got my concealed weapons permit first then my mmj card
BBYY
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I would assume that if you already have the CPL when you get the MMJ card you will be good. UNTIL you go to re-new or if you get a charge over fucked MMJ law.
One of the many reason I will never get a medical card until federal law makes it possible, I'll rather have my second amendment over some black void legislation for MMJ.
One of the many reason I will never get a medical card until federal law makes it possible, I'll rather have my second amendment over some black void legislation for MMJ.
angelsbandit
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"wow i believe that that sheriffs office is in the wrong hes not illegally using so it makes no sense why he should be barred from buying guns thats ridiculous "
The background check is a Federal thing, and we are all illegal in their eyes.
"I just got denied over my MMJ card and im pissed about it"
Why were you declined? How did they know you were a MMJ patient?
The background check is a Federal thing, and we are all illegal in their eyes.
"I just got denied over my MMJ card and im pissed about it"
Why were you declined? How did they know you were a MMJ patient?
cooknsmoke
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This topic usually don't get alot of reply because the question you are asking is a little bit complicated. which means that you have ask a good one! most if not all CCW license is issue by the states. The feds is only there to provide the background database checks for the states so its up to the discretion of the officers or your state policy to honor your handgun license, renew, or revolt. There will only be 4 states effective of july 2011 that does not need a conceal weapon license to carry one in public. Those states are Arizona, Alaska, Wyoming, and Vermont. now, if you see the point that i am trying to make is that since it is issue by your state and i assume that your state also have a MMP card policy, you are obeying the law in your state both ways (Given That You Don't Violate Any Other Laws). You should be fine there but I would look a little further into your state CCW laws because each states varies a little bit but most CCW or handgun laws, requirements, and regulations are basically the same. However, your MMP card will provide most of your defense in court if for some reason your CCW is revolt or taken. --------------> Let me also caution people with a grow that guns (illegal - real bad or legal -better defense), doesn't mix well in court.
That all depends. We need more links and sufficent info to determine what went wrong here because the post involve alot of what ifs and etc. I am not saying i don't believe you, i am just making a statement and your quote was a good one to make an example =). People should not always read into something and just believe the hype regardless what that may be. Others should know better than just to copy and paste something off the net without understanding the whole case. people need to read the whole story or case by themselves with different sources to determine for themselves.
Obviously, you are not utilizing the law to your full advantage! you won't see a fed mj card until pass your death i am sure. Don't let fear play you down like a sucker.
peace to all
Hotsause
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Well i have no priors besides a few traffic tickets and it says clearly on the Co site that you give up your second amendment right if you get a MMJ card WHICH THEY SHOULD CLEARLY ADVISE PEOPLE BEFORE YOU GET IT. I haven't went to get the reconsideration paper yet but i will soon. The funny part is guns and alcohol are one of the worst mixes in the world but alcoholics can get a gun NO PROBLEM
You don't give up your right to carry a gun by having a MMJ card, you can still carry it, you will just be in violation of one of the rules. Getting permission from some joke government agent is in itself a big joke. Your rights can never be taken away, they are unalienable.
Murfy
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AMEN!-
out of my cold dead hands........
in michigan we have an open carry law. as long as the weapon is visible on your person, and you are not inside a cage(vehicle), you are good to go.
of course all restrictions applicable to ccw apply(no schools, bars, churches, etc.)
out of my cold dead hands........
in michigan we have an open carry law. as long as the weapon is visible on your person, and you are not inside a cage(vehicle), you are good to go.
of course all restrictions applicable to ccw apply(no schools, bars, churches, etc.)
And that is the biggest joke of all, you can't carry into bars, schools, churches, political rallies etc etc. So if I was some cold blooded killer hell bent on taking out a bunch of folks you know what I would do? Kill people in churches, schools, political rallies, and bars...WTF , how many school shootings have there been since Columbine? Arizona shooting? Political rally. The worst mass shooting in Oregon ever? A bar in Portland.
Aug. 12, 2007 - Missouri - First Congregational Church (Micronesian) - Pastor and 2 Worshipers Killed - shooter's name yet to be released.
May 21, 2006 - Louisiana - Jesus Christ Church - 4 Killed including Shooter's Wife - Anthony Bell
Feb. 26, 2006 - Michigan - Zion Hope Missionary Baptist Church - 2 People Killed - Kevin L. Collins, who reportedly went to the church looking for his girlfriend, later killed himself.
March 12, 2005 - Wisconsin - Living Church of God (Evangelical group) - 7 Churchgoers Killed - Terry Ratzmann concluded by killing himself.
July 30, 2005 - New York - World Changers Church International - Air Force Staff Sgt. John Givens was shot 5 times by a police officer after charging the officer, following violent behavior.
Sept. 15, 1999 - Texas - Wedgewood Baptist Church - 7 People Killed - Larry Gene - Diary writings revealed Ashbrook was "a very emotionally disturbed person.
Every restriction on the carry of weapons only creates opportunity killings for mental cases and nut jobs.
The Police carry everywhere, so should you and I.
BrotherBuz
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^^^ Sounds good on paper, but in real life . . . keep it to yourself.
Mellowman2112
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Exactly, just send a buddy in to buy it if later they want to charge you they have an uphill battle convicting you against the second amendment.
Mellowman2112
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When are the states going to just say no to this federal illegal interference. Just say no!!!
Dirty Harry
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That is a federal weapons violation right there. That is called a straw man purchase. You can get 5-10 years simply for that. And your friend who bought it for you will also go down.
I have had a CWP for over twenty years and I used to be a licensed firearms dealer. DO NOT TRY AND SIDESTEP FEDERAL WEAPONS LAWS. Those laws do not care what state laws say. You can not only loose your right to a carry permit, but to own a weapon and also could loose your medical card.
Hell, when I was a licensed weapons dealer I could loose that license and have jail or prison time simply for not completing the proper inventory check in paperwork within 24 hour of receiving a weapon for my inventory.
I do not live in a legal medical state and gave up my sellers license because I ran the business from my home and I started having kids.
Mellowman2112
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Yes but they have to prove to a jury and how do they do that if the law itself is unconstitutional? IF I were on the jury I would never vote to convict is what I am saying. IF joe chooses to sell his gun to frank where is the violation? At least half of the jury would be gunowners I hope.