Concerned i deleafed too early

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Kingkongbud

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Wattzzup said:
This was my thought. You clearly stressed 2 out of 3 plants enough to hermie. So it’s kind of hard to keep reading after that line. I kept going but it didn’t get any better.
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No. I clearly did not. You do not know the history of these seeds. They have hermie in their genetics except for 1. If you knew much about weed youd know that there are levels of hermie and only a fool would keep an unmanageable one. The seed i got was out of someone's stressed plants but they are still the original king kong seed from a trusted seller. I know the person very well who gave me the seed and I trust him. He explained what the plant went through. Someone gave it to him and it was sick, he brought it back in his outdoor compost garden but it pollenated itself with this stress in its genetics. Ive had seed where you could stress the plant so much and it would never go hermie while others you could stress very little and it goes hermie. Not everyone decides on unfortunate factors handed to them. And the best that can be done aside from buying seeds is siftting through what looks like the nicest ones, vigor, etc
 
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Kingkongbud

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Wattzzup said:
This was my thought. You clearly stressed 2 out of 3 plants enough to hermie. So it’s kind of hard to keep reading after that line. I kept going but it didn’t get any better.
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You are being rude by assuming based on facts i now gave you which you had not known. And just to let you know, the strongest hermie already pumped out 3 times more flower sites and 3 times bigger than the pure female which never had sacs plucked so i love my hermie very much. They all started same time same conditions, started flower same time. The middle size one at the far back was hardly hermie, only the center tallest one and again if you knew anything about weed youd know a manageable hermie will stop making savs
 
Kassiopeija

Kassiopeija

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Kingkongbud said:
Not according to what has been documented online, various websites. Sorry but I'll believe a more collaborative source compared to yourself
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I think you are completely off track here. The way your growroom and plants look you are a novice and still belief the bullcrap how breeder advocate the harvest weight of their crops or whatever.
We have already people here that pulled 2.5kg dry from 1000w HID - Sedan. Why on earth shouldnt it be possible...?
 
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Kingkongbud

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JoeBlow5823 said:
LOL I averaged 4oz per plant off my last AUTOFLOWER run. Thats dried, cured, well trimmed weight. Strain doesnt really matter that much, if you are growing a photoperiod, you can veg it out big enough to produce any amount of bud.
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Amount of area to keep vegging it out is a factor for many. It is possible to encourage good grows in as small as a walkin closet
 
Wattzzup

Wattzzup

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Kingkongbud said:
You are being rude by assuming based on facts i now gave you which you had not known. And just to let you know, the strongest hermie already pumped out 3 times more flower sites and 3 times bigger than the pure female which never had sacs plucked so i love my hermie very much. They all started same time same conditions, started flower same time. The middle size one at the far back was hardly hermie, only the center tallest one and again if you knew anything about weed youd know a manageable hermie will stop making savs
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Sorry for being rude it’s funny how you notice rude behavior in my post but don’t see it in your own. Starting with your first. :hump:

3 plants + 2 hermies = 1 person not listening to you anymore
 
JoeBlow5823

JoeBlow5823

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Kassiopeija said:
I think you are completely off track here. The way your growroom and plants look you are a novice and still belief the bullcrap how breeder advocate the harvest weight of their crops or whatever.
We have already people here that pulled 2.5kg dry from 1000w HID - Sedan. Why on earth shouldnt it be possible...?
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I think calling him a novice is an overstatement....I think of my self as a novice only getting 1.2kg out of a 5x5 with a 1000w.
 
JoeBlow5823

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Kingkongbud said:
I have perfect clue what i am doing and the training you have done which overall time takes much longer. To each their own. Some farmers believe in softer training and others none at at. It is only you disrespecting those growers who also have excellent end results, some way better than yours. What you had not considered as do most too quick to post is my area being used would not handle the width of any more plants in that narrow area without ninja crawling my way into it and i dont appreciate watering with leaves in my face. Not everyone has the growing area YOU are using and so we should be mindful that people can certainly grow good weed spending thousands less in initial costs than you, and if that's what they want to do, why disrespect that as you did?
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No you really dont have a clue man. You would be lucky to get a couple ounces out of that tent. I grow in a 5x5, likely very similar size to your grow room so im not sure what the difference you are seeing is. All im saying is for 1000w of light, those plants look FUCKED. Crazy small. Crazy stretched out. The training I did on my plants was minimal (just a little low stress training, did not slow grow at all) and future grows when i do photoperiod, it will be even less work training because I will just top them (yes they will have to veg longer but Im just fine with that, yield will be far greater).
 
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Kingkongbud said:
Here's the 3 I'm growing. They are 1 month veg and around 1 month flower. The center one flowered way faster than the other 2 and was is most hermie. It is also losing its bottom leaves sooner but that's because its way taller. This is about 1000w layered setup. These are kingkongbud
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You have a decent grow space. You could be pumping way more out of that space of AA++ quality. I understand the idea of saving money but one area no one should ever cut corners on is lighting. I will always preach lighting, lighting, lighting. I’ve grown under hps, cfl and I’ve grown under led/quantum board. I prefer led/quantum boards. These two pictures are just a couple quick shots off 1 of my ladies under a single HLG 320 Rspec. I just spent 3 grand on two commercial SpecGrade Verta 8’s for my big tent. I’ve been growing for 15 years. I stepped away for a bit for personal reasons and slowly just got back into the swing of things about 8 months or so ago.
 

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@Kingkongbud
Man, I've never seen a more chaotic growroom but I'm not really sure if all I see is actually supposed to be this way, so... so you have some LED without diffusor and keep them close to the plant - even underneath [!] and the T5 at maximum distance and the CFL bulbs throw like 80% of their light away from the plant.... 1000W of light but all your plants look light depraved, that's why they stretch like mad and have this lifeless hanging leaves. And there you say you only need minimum training....
maybe you can use your phone to measure lux intensity - try 50k at a plants leaf/bud surface for starters. All you need to do is to rearrange your lamps so the plants can make better usage of light. You need to concentrate ther light much better together and then get your plants into that. The t5 could be used for sidelighting for example. They need to be really close to a plant otherwise they dont do much...

Nevertheless the t5 & CFLs are rather weak and you cannot rely solely on them for making buds - they're only additionals.
 
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Kingkongbud

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Kassiopeija said:
@Kingkongbud
Man, I've never seen a more chaotic growroom but I'm not really sure if all I see is actually supposed to be this way, so... so you have some LED without diffusor and keep them close to the plant - even underneath [!] and the T5 at maximum distance and the CFL bulbs throw like 80% of their light away from the plant.... 1000W of light but all your plants look light depraved, that's why they stretch like mad and have this lifeless hanging leaves. And there you say you only need minimum training....
maybe you can use your phone to measure lux intensity - try 50k at a plants leaf/bud surface for starters. All you need to do is to rearrange your lamps so the plants can make better usage of light. You need to concentrate ther light much better together and then get your plants into that. The t5 could be used for sidelighting for example. They need to be really close to a plant otherwise they dont do much...

Nevertheless the t5 & CFLs are rather weak and you cannot rely solely on them for making buds - they're only additionals.
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You make it sound like you are an expert know it while and suprised using an exclamation mark to prove how noob you are in the areas you have shown suprise
 
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Kingkongbud

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Kassiopeija said:
@Kingkongbud
Man, I've never seen a more chaotic growroom but I'm not really sure if all I see is actually supposed to be this way, so... so you have some LED without diffusor and keep them close to the plant - even underneath [!] and the T5 at maximum distance and the CFL bulbs throw like 80% of their light away from the plant.... 1000W of light but all your plants look light depraved, that's why they stretch like mad and have this lifeless hanging leaves. And there you say you only need minimum training....
maybe you can use your phone to measure lux intensity - try 50k at a plants leaf/bud surface for starters. All you need to do is to rearrange your lamps so the plants can make better usage of light. You need to concentrate ther light much better together and then get your plants into that. The t5 could be used for sidelighting for example. They need to be really close to a plant otherwise they dont do much...

Nevertheless the t5 & CFLs are rather weak and you cannot rely solely on them for making buds - they're only additionals.
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You show to be suprised using exclamation mark acting like a know it all when in reality you prove to be a noob in the area. Some lights are cool enough they dont burn anything when light touches. Man people on here lack alot of knowledge while acting like know it alls
 
JoeBlow5823

JoeBlow5823

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Kassiopeija said:
@Kingkongbud
Man, I've never seen a more chaotic growroom but I'm not really sure if all I see is actually supposed to be this way, so... so you have some LED without diffusor and keep them close to the plant - even underneath [!] and the T5 at maximum distance and the CFL bulbs throw like 80% of their light away from the plant.... 1000W of light but all your plants look light depraved, that's why they stretch like mad and have this lifeless hanging leaves. And there you say you only need minimum training....
maybe you can use your phone to measure lux intensity - try 50k at a plants leaf/bud surface for starters. All you need to do is to rearrange your lamps so the plants can make better usage of light. You need to concentrate ther light much better together and then get your plants into that. The t5 could be used for sidelighting for example. They need to be really close to a plant otherwise they dont do much...

Nevertheless the t5 & CFLs are rather weak and you cannot rely solely on them for making buds - they're only additionals.
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This guy has the perfect grow room, knows everything, and does not want or need our help. He is just here to brag about his amazing weed.
 
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