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oceanic6

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Hey guys,

I planted 3 indica strains a few weeks ago and they have about a week or so left of veg before i put 1them in flower. I am LSTing them so I am giving them a little more time.

Anyway, my question is, my one strain is white rhino and when I put the soil in the 3 gallon container I transplanted before I watered a little to let the soil settle. Now my 2 other plants are filled to the top with soil while the white rhino has about 2 inches at the top that has no soil. Should I take it out and put more soil in or let it go? I am sure it is packed enough now that I could probably take it all out with one shot...put some soil in... and put it back in without harming the plant. Is it worth the risk to have an extra 2 inches of soil?
 
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oceanic6

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well i am more concerned with the roots getting more soil at the bottom so they can move around without getting bunched up. Plus I am LSTing and my main stem is pretty close the the soil as it is so i couldnt add to the top. but thanks for answering.
 
^NoR*CaL@420

^NoR*CaL@420

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if they havent hit botom yet the will. then move to the out side then back in. like water being poured straight into a pot. i say leave it
 
Professor Marijuana

Professor Marijuana

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I wouldn't transplant or add more soil on top. If you have the hieght use the double bucket technique I would use on all of them if you have enough hieght it will increase your yield substantially (see my post in newbies titled "Back again with caution" for technique info) The 3 things that have a direct inpact on yield are strain, amount of light, and size of root ball. The root ball is often overlooked and is one of the things thats easy and effective. Good luck.

Ps, I'm assuming that LSTing is the same as FIM, if it's a topping technique be easy, people think more central, or cola, branches mean bigger yields. That's not always the case. Depends on when it is done, how well, and how much attention the plant receives. Stick to sound techniques while learning. KISS is a good rule to live by in the early years
 
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oceanic6

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LSTing is low stress training. I am not cutting anything. Anyway, the double bucket technique sounds like a great idea. As long as I dont cut any roots when cutting the bottom of the bucket there should be no stress on the plant, which sounds good to me. Thanks for the advice.
 
Professor Marijuana

Professor Marijuana

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If you plan on using the double bucket technique from the beginning you can do what I do. Take your beginning bucket before filling with your growing medium and cut the bottom off. Then duct tape it back on. A tip is to put a mesh material in firs t, if you start with rocks for drainage and pop the bottom off without something to contain the contents it is likely you'll dump a good bit of material out thhe bottom.. I get asked a lot about additives to use when starting the flowering phase, understanding what effects yield naturally will reep far greater results then anything you can find in a bottle and there are no lingering byproducts. Remember when doing this to water from the bottom, make the roots chase the water. The bigger the root ball the bigger the buds. Indoors it is more difficult due to hieght limitations, I have such good results with this that I would rather sacrifice the plant hieght for the bucket.Of course I don't believe in vegging at all so it isn't an issue for me. Veggings a waste of time as far as I'm concerned. Good luck
 
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CLJ

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Would you please describe the double bucket method in more detail? I'm not sure what you mean by putting mesh material in first. Also, Explain why you don't believe in vegging. I'm a newbie and still trying to figure out the best way to start a personal indoor garden.
 
pinenut

pinenut

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very interesting professor, i am going to skip vegging my next try, do you have any tips , i am going to start[soil] sprouts under cfl then transplant and put under 400 watt hps at 12/12. i hope this works out
 
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oceanic6

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Are you talking about clones when you say you don't Veg or seed as well? I dont understand why you wouldnt Veg
 
Professor Marijuana

Professor Marijuana

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I went into a bit of detail in a post called 60 day flower or something like that in Newbies. I don't start from seed for any reason other then sexing. I start seeds and grow long enough to take viable clones and the flower to determine sex. Once I have a known female clone the donors are generaly trashed. When I say I don't veg or that it's a waste of time I am speaking of vegging in a planned grow. I go directly from 2 to 3 inch clones into flower. I can yield far more in the same space in a fraction of the time. The yield over the course of a year in the same space is many times more than with traditional style growing, don't have a specific number without looking but I'm sure it's ten times or more.
 
darkdestruction420

darkdestruction420

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you said you have dvd's out proffessor before didnt you? I read another post of yours where you said that and that the clones you put right into flower at 2-3 inches yeild 2-3 oz. I'd like to see that.
 
Professor Marijuana

Professor Marijuana

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When growing in a bucket I place that bucket, with the borttom removed, on top of a second bucket full of your soil as soon as I go into flower. This stimulates a burst in root growth which results in increased bud production. Bigger root ball equals bigger yield. Water from the lower bucket so your roots chace the water. It will be well worth your efforts. As far as not vegging, there is a post in newbies called 60 day harvest or something close that describes my technique
 
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LittleT

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i have 2 autoblooms 20 or so inches tall just starting to hair 4 weeks old.both are in a 1 gallon pot together --having to water 2 times a week.should they be put in larger pot <5gallon> for the last 4 or 5 weeks or left alone and watered often?in a black 1 gallon pot now.i could possably cut bottom out without harming roots but dont want to hurt yeild.help would be appreciated
 
fatboyOGOF

fatboyOGOF

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Professor Marijuana said:
If you plan on using the double bucket technique from the beginning you can do what I do. Take your beginning bucket before filling with your growing medium and cut the bottom off. Then duct tape it back on. A tip is to put a mesh material in firs t, if you start with rocks for drainage and pop the bottom off without something to contain the contents it is likely you'll dump a good bit of material out thhe bottom.. I get asked a lot about additives to use when starting the flowering phase, understanding what effects yield naturally will reep far greater results then anything you can find in a bottle and there are no lingering byproducts. Remember when doing this to water from the bottom, make the roots chase the water. The bigger the root ball the bigger the buds. Indoors it is more difficult due to hieght limitations, I have such good results with this that I would rather sacrifice the plant hieght for the bucket.Of course I don't believe in vegging at all so it isn't an issue for me. Veggings a waste of time as far as I'm concerned. Good luck
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i've tried damn near every indoor grow method that sounded interesting. i tried the double bucket thing back in the 90s. every single time i went to move the pots or turn them, i would pick up or twist the top pot and rip out a bunch of roots. i should probably not work with the ladies while high, but then, what's the point eh? :)
 
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