Controlled Environment Agriculture by Shrubs

Someguy15 said:

I was considering pure coco in the future. Can coco be used with synthetic nutes and without the beneficial bacteria additives? I started off synetic and with minimal additives to learn, but now I'm exploring other options. Coco seems really light and fluffy to, probably have to be watered twice a day or more in flower right? I've heard it's water retention properties are similar to hydroton. What are your opinions! Love how you're always trying new things out, an inspiration to us rookies

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Canna coco retains 25% air within the medium at its most saturated level, soil
holds anywhere from 0 to maybe 10% if you add a good amount of perlite.

Coco holds a lot more water than hydroton, and I probably wouldn't need to water
it but every 3-4 days. Something like Feed>Feed>Water, unless I notice some
build up.

That is the beauty of Coco as a hydro medium, you can do a simple drain to waste,
no need for a recirculating system, just a reservoir, pump and sprayer head.

Edit: by the way, Canna coco comes pH balanced, and with Trichoderma inocculated
already, so they definitely encourage an environment beneficial for micro organisms,
I would say to use bacteria and natural enzymes, especially humic and fulvic acids.

Just got my letter form the Colorado Secretary of State saying
they have approved Controlled Environment Agriculture, LLC
as a company within the state of colorado! Sicky!

Shrubs First said:

Just got my letter form the Colorado Secretary of State saying
they have approved Controlled Environment Agriculture, LLC
as a company within the state of colorado! Sicky!

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booya

sounds like youre all good to go

notoriousb said:

booya

sounds like youre all good to go

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Hell yea, now I just need to produce some more product to give to the clientele

congrats bro, your gonna do great this round, im sure of it!

Got some pics, I ran out of Coco while I was repotting,
but when I was pullin the plants in the Coco out of their
4x4's I saw some extremely healthy root growth, couldn't
be more excited.

man they look great, i love the screen addition!

Replanted the rest, left is Purps right is Sour Diesels, oh and that
last clone took so long my boy just gave me a cutting from his
New York City Diesel from Soma Seeds.. I smoked this while visiting
in Amsterdam and am very excited to grow it, It'll be nice having a
third flavor....

The Soma NYCD is the middle plant on the left side, front row.



Gave them a pretty light little feeding...

10 Gallons Carbon/Sediment Filtered Water
10 mL Master A
10 mL Master B
10 mL Verde
10 mL Cal/Mag
5 mL Hum-Bolt
5 mL Flavor-Fulv
10 mL Mayan Microzyme
25 mL Hygrozyme
10 mL Humboldt Roots
50 mL Rhizotonic
PPM:335, pH: 6.0, Temp: 67 F

Drella said:

man they look great, i love the screen addition!

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Thanks drell, the trellis netting is basically there to help me gauge the size better,
it won't really serve much other purpose, the buds might do some leaning against
it, and I might use it for organization of the branches but it's not being utilized as
a ScrOG... Which one of my homies is doing at the moment, I recently helped him
convert to a raised bed system, it looks pretty pro, might as well post a pic of that
as well ...

Setup is a 4x4 Grow Lab with one 600W. 3x3 Botanicare Tray with 4x4
ScrOG



As you can see it is beautiful, he's got a White Queen, a Gods Gift and a Charles
Kush growin in there, 3 extremely healthy and vigorous plants.

It's gotta be the cleanest and easiest setup I've seen with my own two eyes....

But yea, IDK, as you can see in my last garden pic I've got some plants that look great
and a couple that look N deficient, this feeding I gave em should reallly put their
metabolism back in to high gear.

yeah i know you'll get the feedings dialed in bro, thanks for the awesome scrog pic, looks like your surrounding yourself with similar great minds! i like the chicken wire, great idea, and easy looking like you said!

I like the chicken wire, you've inspired me to build a pvc rack to go into my tray (walls not ideal to mount to). Do you think the smaller holes in chicken wire would be best or the larger like the net your using?

Someguy15 said:

I like the chicken wire, you've inspired me to build a pvc rack to go into my tray (walls not ideal to mount to). Do you think the smaller holes in chicken wire would be best or the larger like the net your using?

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They serve differing purposes, the chicken wire is there to hold the vegetation down and form an even canopy. The trellis netting I am using is to gauge size and
allow the buds to lean against it when they grow through, they are similar but take
differing approaches to reach the goals...... Using the chickenwire appropriatly
would most likely require a longer veg time, so how long do you want this grow to
take is the question...

I'm willing to veg a extra couple weeks for the chicken wire, those true Scrogs are beautiful! And I'm sure the extra wait would be worth it product wise. Heres my other factor though. I'm going from seed one more round so I need to sex @ 12/12. I'll hopefully be able to install the screen by the end of the first week of flower, is this too late? Should I just wait until I grow from clones to employ the screen? Thanks again shrubs.

Someguy15 said:

I'm willing to veg a extra couple weeks for the chicken wire, those true Scrogs are beautiful! And I'm sure the extra wait would be worth it product wise. Heres my other factor though. I'm going from seed one more round so I need to sex @ 12/12. I'll hopefully be able to install the screen by the end of the first week of flower, is this too late? Should I just wait until I grow from clones to employ the screen? Thanks again shrubs.

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Yes, too late that would be. You want the plant to vegetate while being held down
by a screen in order to facilitate a more natural low stress train, your not pulling
down with strings as you would in a classic LST, you are simply not allowing it to
grow over a barrier, as such its growth is almost vine like, and you want to keep
tucking it under through the first 1-2 weeks of flower to allow some of the initial
stretch to happen underneath the screen, that way the only thing that grow above
the screen is big huge sticky nugs.

Update today, another feeding....

15 Gallons Carbon/Sediment Filtered Water: 60ppm

30 mL Master A
30 mL Master B
30 mL Verde
15 mL Cal/Mag Plus
15 mL Hum-Bolt
15 mL Flavor-Fulv
30 mL Mayan Microzyme
75 mL HygroZyme
30 mL Humboldt Roots
3 Scoops Great White Premium Mycorrhizae
50 mL Rhizotonic
15 mL Azamax
PPM 540, pH 6.4, Temp 67 F

Runoff PPM 600, pH 8, we'll see whats up with the high pH soon

Shrubs First said:

Update today, another feeding....

15 Gallons Carbon/Sediment Filtered Water: 60ppm

30 mL Master A
30 mL Master B
30 mL Verde
15 mL Cal/Mag Plus
15 mL Hum-Bolt
15 mL Flavor-Fulv
30 mL Mayan Microzyme
75 mL HygroZyme
30 mL Humboldt Roots
3 Scoops Great White Premium Mycorrhizae
50 mL Rhizotonic
15 mL Azamax
PPM 540, pH 6.4, Temp 67 F

Runoff PPM 600, pH 8, we'll see whats up with the high pH soon

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you water in your azamax eh?

and I know you dont need much with the great white, but whats the rate per gallon? or how much is a scoop's worth?

thats quite the cocktail though, I'm sure they'll enjoy it

notoriousb said:

you water in your azamax eh?

and I know you dont need much with the great white, but whats the rate per gallon? or how much is a scoop's worth?

thats quite the cocktail though, I'm sure they'll enjoy it

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Yea, Azamax is a systemic feed, meaning it is absorbed as a nutrient and distributed
throughout the cells of the plant, and when a pest attempts to consume the plant
it also absorbs the Azamax main ingredient "Azadirachtin Indica" or Neem Oil.... It
is the champion of Organic pesticides.....

The Great White calls for a lot more innoculation than what I did, but my media
was pre inocculated with Mycorrhizae and Trichoderma, so I just kinda add some
here and there... The Great White calls for 2 scoops per gallon.... I would use the
whole bottle in one feed if I did that.....

And yea, its definitely a balanced feed, everything included..... The diesels really
enjoyed it, the purps are being some bitches....

Thought yall might like this, check the webpage... www.ControlledGarden.com -still under construction

i do like it. you are officially my hero. i like the edibes coming soon setion! just great, good luck to you brother!

Thanks man, i picked a new template, I like it much better, I think I'm in
business people.