Controlled Environment Agriculture by Shrubs

Shrubs First said:

just woke up, the ladies are perky as ever, tomorrow will be
the first da of 12/12 aswell as week one flower feed.

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now the fun really begins

just harvested my indoor tho so check the link in my sig when you get the chance to peep my work

Hey shrubs, I picked up a trellis net and some hygrozyme as well as special ordered a 8oz great white. I know you do drain to waste with hygro/GW, but it's fine to run in ebb & flo right? Goal is to improve my root health this time around. Can't wait to see you're girls flower they sure will b purty.

Hehe...I'm in for the ride I love ur set up, something for my future grow op...want that XL tent not to maximize and fill it all up w plants, I'd like the space in there. How big is urs? I'm thinking of the 240 x 120 x 200 tent...is that what urs is? I'm not lazy but I fergot what u said in ur past grow thread...well that states I'm lazy, guess I coulda just go back and look The plants look super nice but buying clones is cheating I got another 5-7 days on me ladies...gonna chop chop and hang them whole as u suggested and hang them in my bathroom, 20C and 25 - 30% humidity. GL!

//CaL

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Someguy15 said:

Hey shrubs, I picked up a trellis net and some hygrozyme as well as special ordered a 8oz great white. I know you do drain to waste with hygro/GW, but it's fine to run in ebb & flo right? Goal is to improve my root health this time around. Can't wait to see you're girls flower they sure will b purty.

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Helll yea dude, that shit will dominate your EBB + Flow! I can't wait to see that.
Between the innoculation of fungi and microorganisms and the Hygrozyme, your
roots will be loving their environment! I learned a lot already from the beginning
of this grow, I have never focused on my root devolopment so intensely, and this
grow I gave them the best root base out of any of my crops and these plants look
the happiest out of any in this veggie state so far..

PANGcake said:

Hehe...I'm in for the ride I love ur set up, something for my future grow op...want that XL tent not to maximize and fill it all up w plants, I'd like the space in there. How big is urs? I'm thinking of the 240 x 120 x 200 tent...is that what urs is? I'm not lazy but I fergot what u said in ur past grow thread...well that states I'm lazy, guess I coulda just go back and look The plants look super nice but buying clones is cheating I got another 5-7 days on me ladies...gonna chop chop and hang them whole as u suggested and hang them in my bathroom, 20C and 25 - 30% humidity. GL!

//CaL

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Nice to have you here bro, I've seen you around, think i've talked to you a couple
times before... I appreciate the kind words about my grow space as well, it really
took some time to get it to this clean and easy user friendly state. And my tent
is a 5' x 5' x 6.5'. So it's a 150 cubic feet roughly. And BTW cheating?? haha,
I understand it could be construed as a head start but in no way am i cheating I have a second hut I will be using for Vegetative and Mothers within a couple
months but i just don't have the time or space to utilize it currently. I am waiting
to quit my day job til my business is perpetual and basically running itself. I might
convince myself that 2 or 3 more paychecks and I'm done, but I would prefer to get
another harvest before I commit to quitting. It would just make my financial
situation that much better. and BTW, i didnt buy the clones, a friend hooks me up so
it's even better.. hahah. And you will not regret your slow drying method, it is
the key to an aromatic harvest.

Anywhoo its always good to have yall here, I get lonely with no one to talk to haha, so yea, feel free to ask more questions and keep checkin it, PEACE.
-Shrubs

your not cheating bro! HA. it's just a byproduct of networking, shrubs has definitely set his stuff up right. i hope you can quit ur day job soon bro! im harvesting for the first time tomorrow bro, just one plant, so i dont get overwhelmed. the wifeys gonna help, it should be epic!

Serenaded with Sonic Bloom frequency and Foliar fed
15 mL Sonic Bloom Nutrient per Gallon, I'll be checkin
on them shortly

Drella said:

your not cheating bro! HA. it's just a byproduct of networking, shrubs has definitely set his stuff up right. i hope you can quit ur day job soon bro! im harvesting for the first time tomorrow bro, just one plant, so i dont get overwhelmed. the wifeys gonna help, it should be epic!

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Ha, I know he was kiddin, nobody can cheat in this game! It always shows through
in your final product. I will rejoice the day I get to walk out of my work for the last
time.... Last time I work in an establishment such as that, I can GUARANTEE that!

Hey man, have a great time with that plant. Be as delicate as possible, and take
your time. It's so rewarding. All in due time compadre.

"fuck you! fuck you! you're cool! fuck YOU!" thats gonna be ur last day of work, go out in a blaze of glory!

i am gonna take my time, my chicks trying on thongs right now for the photo shoot!LOL! yeah, its been a long time coming, that's for sure!

Shrubs First said:

You can use the botanicare slabs, you just gotta flush the hell out of them which
takes a lot of time. Canna is a huge pain in the ass if there isn't a local supplier,
an associate of mine is in the process of starting a grow store up in Missoula, MO,
and he is currently talking to Canna to be a dealer, and they refuse to supply more
than one dealer in each state apparently. Montana doesn't have a dealer and it
looks as if he might get the contract which would pretty much seal the deal for
him as a hydroponics distributor...

I have nothing but amazing things to say about the great white so far, I checked
out that H&G's before, and it would just be redundant for me to use it, I am already
using Canna's Rhizotonic and Humboldt Roots, as well as a host of microbials,
beneficials, enzymes, mycorrhizae, trichoderma and other bactera which I can't
even name. But I always appreciate a product shout out, that stuff
is definitely high quality, and its not that I wouldn't use it, but that I am using
so many similar products

I grew a clone off the same mother in my last grow and it was some of the best
herb I've ever seen, I just didn't have enough plants of it.. now I have 7 muahahaha
and 1 SOMA NYC Diesel, and 8 Sour Diesels

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Botanicare is what I'm currently using.I flushed it right out of the bag and the runoff was 800ppm,the sunleaves I got was up to 1200 ppm brand new.
Yeah,I was more or less trying to convince you to try Roots excelurator instead of the rhizotonic.I remember seeing a thread with the two being ran in a side by side experiment and I think the roots excelurator out preformed the rhizotonic(I'll have to double check on that though).I can understand you not wanting to switch though(especially with those roots),there are a few products that I use which I wouldn't consider replacing either(roots excelurator being one of them lol).

I second your drying method,I too keep the leaves on when drying.I Cut branches to managable sizes and wait for leaves to become crispy,then trim them.
I have some sweet tooth drying right now,just trimmed it up a bit last night.

I'm not sure if I've ever had Sour Diesel.However,my friend went to Hawaii a couple of years ago and brought back some "Super Diesel".The thing is,this friend of mine is always getting strain names mixed up and I haven't heard of Super Diesel since(nor had I heard of it before).So,I was thinking maybe it was actually Sour Diesel.And that stuff was grade A chronic,by far the best of all the strains he brought back.

Anyhow,I'm subsribed!I hope to learn a thing or two as you really seem to know whats up.

Drella said:

"fuck you! fuck you! you're cool! fuck YOU!" thats gonna be ur last day of work, go out in a blaze of glory!

i am gonna take my time, my chicks trying on thongs right now for the photo shoot!LOL! yeah, its been a long time coming, that's for sure!

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haha lets hope I am able to do something of that nature, although they've
treated me well, so its all good in that department.

Hope that harvest is goin well tonight! Have fun

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Botanicare is what I'm currently using.I flushed it right out of the bag and the runoff was 800ppm,the sunleaves I got was up to 1200 ppm brand new.
Yeah,I was more or less trying to convince you to try Roots excelurator instead of the rhizotonic.I remember seeing a thread with the two being ran in a side by side experiment and I think the roots excelurator out preformed the rhizotonic(I'll have to double check on that though).I can understand you not wanting to switch though(especially with those roots),there are a few products that I use which I wouldn't consider replacing either(roots excelurator being one of them lol).

I second your drying method,I too keep the leaves on when drying.I Cut branches to managable sizes and wait for leaves to become crispy,then trim them.
I have some sweet tooth drying right now,just trimmed it up a bit last night.

I'm not sure if I've ever had Sour Diesel.However,my friend went to Hawaii a couple of years ago and brought back some "Super Diesel".The thing is,this friend of mine is always getting strain names mixed up and I haven't heard of Super Diesel since(nor had I heard of it before).So,I was thinking maybe it was actually Sour Diesel.And that stuff was grade A chronic,by far the best of all the strains he brought back.

Anyhow,I'm subsribed!I hope to learn a thing or two as you really seem to know whats up.

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Good to have you here, you can't mistake the sour D, especially if you ever
have it again, you'll know whats up.

Thanks for checkin out the grow.

16 Gallons Carbon/Sediment Filtered H20
75 mL Master A
75 mL Master B
45 mL Cal/Mag
6 tbsp Big Up Powder
30 mL Hum-Bolt
30 mL Flavor-Fulv
30 mL Mayan Microzyme
150 mL Hygrozyme
3 Scoops Great White (final application)
30 mL Humboldt Roots
30 mL Humboldt Honey ES
30 mL Rhizotonic

PPM 1400, pH 6.1 Temp 66F

Pics later when they are showing a reaction.

Runoff was 1200 ppm

here we go! im gonna start mine on friday! when the last three get chopped! chop the big sativa tonight, first harvest, check it out when you get a chance!

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Drella said:

here we go! im gonna start mine on friday! when the last three get chopped! chop the big sativa tonight, first harvest, check it out when you get a chance!

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nice, I think i fucked up on that feeding last night, I added twice as much Big Up
powder as i should have, I was wondering why my PPMs were so high, I must have
been high as hell too I gave them TBSP not TSP!!!!!....I'm gonna leach the COCO
today, just puttin together some water and hygrozyme right now, gotta get that shit
out, there is some stress due to the high amounts of PK, I'll show pics.

You can see the fringe of the leaf standing up very slightly, as well as very large
ridges along the margins of the leaf in between the veins. These are classic signs
of a toxicity.




I can't believe I fucked up that Big Up. Uggh it would have been such a good
feed otherwise, everything else was bang on.

False start there is no way I am flowering with my plants
this stressed, I gotta hold off on the switch, last night I held
off and I'm glad I did, I will continue veg for another couple days
til I get them back in shape.

ok maybe well start at the same time, mine start 12/12 tomorrow! plasma light, im like shocked, where will this lead?

flushed last night with hygrozyme, rhizotonic
and a small amount of Cal/Mag for micro deficiencies
which are still present. The Runoff came off at about
900 this time which is better than the 1200 the other night.

Today the plants are definitely still stressed, and I'm
glad I flushed em yesterday or else it would be even
worse today.... I might even flush them again today...
That is a beauty of coco, I can't overwater this way.

Drella said:

ok maybe well start at the same time, mine start 12/12 tomorrow! plasma light, im like shocked, where will this lead?

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So I'm fairly certain that I will be flippin the flower switch tonight.

I'm flushing again today and that should rid the rest of the salts,
tonight will be a simple mix of 16 Gallons of water to 160 mL of
Hygrozyme.

oh man i sorry to hear that .but at least you caught it in time . i did the same thing that where all my nute burn came from. oh btw whats this about a plasma light please bring me up to speed