Controlling heat in the grow room

hearmenow

Well-Known Member
I cam across this article recently and thought it may be useful to some newbies:

The least expensive way of reducing the heat in the grow room is to vent out the heat and replace it with cooler air. Sounds simple right? Well it is, but what most beginners forget is that you can’t blow the hot air out without a way for the cool air to get in to replace it. The best way to setup a venting system like this is to mount one exhaust blower on the inside of the grow room up high to blow the heat out, and another blower on the outside mounted down low blowing cool air in. Hot air rises, cool air settles.

Exhaust blowers are rated or sized in Cubic Feet per Minute (CFM) of air, like "265 CFM". This is the amount of air the blower will move in one minute without any restrictions on the intake or exhaust. If a blower is rated at 265 CFM but it’s connected to a 25 foot long tube like a dryer hose, it’s not going to move 265 CFM because of the resistance in the hose. Aluminum tubing with smooth inside walls creates less resistance and the blower runs more efficient. So what size blower should you get? Well it just depends on how fast you need to exchange the air. If your grow room is 6 feet wide, 6 feet long and has an 8 foot ceiling you have 288 cubic feet of air in the room (6x6x8=288). So if your blower is rated at 265 CFM, and it has no restrictions on the intake or exhaust side, it should take about a minute to replace all the air. Of course if the air your replacing it with is already hot, it doesn’t do much too cool the grow room. So it’s best to draw cool air from outside.

The exhaust blower can be turned on with a thermostat so it only runs if the temperature gets too high. The thermostats plug into the wall and have an outlet for the blower. When you set the temperature at, let’s say 80 degrees, the blower will turn on at 80 degrees. It will stay on until the temperature drops to 80 minus the differential. The differential is the difference between the turn on point and the turn off point. It’s usually about 4 degrees. This means that if the thermostat is set at 80, the blower will turn on at 80 degrees and turn off at 76 degrees. This gives the blower some working time. If the thermostat had no differential the blower would turn off as soon as it turns on, then off, then on, etc., not very efficient.

Some people turn the blowers on with a timer. The blower might be set to turn on at a specific time or multiple times during the day. This will also get the job done, but it’s not the most efficient method. If you’re looking to control the temperature you should measure the temperature, not the time of day.

Sometimes the air coming in is just too hot and can’t cool the room. When this is the case the blower can be run on the same timer as the grow light, or another timer set to go on at the same time. This is not really solving the problem, just a cheap fix. The problem is the air coming in is too hot, so why not cool it. An air conditioner can be used for the supply air and a blower can blow out the heat.

An alternative to moving all the air out is to capture the heated air and vent it. This can be done with an air cooled grow light. The advantage with this setup is that you’re using less energy to move the heat out. The volume of air in the reflector might be 3 cubic feet and you can vent it out in a few seconds. It doesn’t matter if it’s hotter, just how much of it you have to move. Venting a 288 cubic foot grow room that’s 95 degrees takes a lot longer than venting a 3 cubic foot reflector that’s 150 degrees.

Another advantage with an air cooled system is when you’re using a CO2 system too. The CO2 doesn’t get blown out when the blowers turn on. The air in the air cooled system is a separate environment from the grow room. Your CO2 cost will be lower since it’s not being wasted.

Controlling heat in the grow room - Greentrees Hydroponics
 

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Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
Thanks hear...

If you draw hot air out through the ATTIC and have anopenig to the crawl space below your houe, you don;t even need a fan blown air in... cool air will get drawn in byitself as the hot air is blow out.. ( a vaccum effect)..

unless of course you are running 7000 watts hid in a 10x10 room and you need as mich flow as possible.. then a vent blowing cool air in as well as drawing hot air out may be wise :)
 

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
Well, you will still need fresh CO2.... you could get a co2 burner :)

AC is definitely the way to go if ONE has access and the money and the Co2 burner....

complete climate control is always ideal... love
 

hearmenow

Well-Known Member
I have an A/C vent directly above my growbox in my closet, about 3' away.. Currently, the slats are pointed directly to the opening of the growbox but I am considering running ducting directly from the vent into an intake hole in the box. I am in a 2-story house and the growbox is on the top floor, so I can only vent into the attic and out the roof.
 

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
I have an A/C vent directly above my growbox in my closet, about 3' away.. Currently, the slats are pointed directly to the opening of the growbox but I am considering running ducting directly from the vent into an intake hole in the box. I am in a 2-story house and the growbox is on the top floor, so I can only vent into the attic and out the roof.
NICE.. sounds good!
 

adp0722

Active Member
I have been trying to keep my temp down in my closet, but it's hard to do most of the time because I have to keep everything shut for stealth reasons, and can't have any vents in the closet for the same reason. I have to have it totally hidden when I am not at home. What I've been doing is freezing a 1 gallon water jug (or 2) and sticking it in there on the intake side of the fan. I put the jug in there in the AM when I leave for work, and by the time I get home it has completely melted, but it seems to keep the temp down by a good 10 degrees or so (I am running at about 90 degrees F without the ice, and 80F with it.) Then I stick the jug back in the freezer when I get home so it's frozen again for the next morning. I do get a lot of condensation, which is a bit messy, but then again it may actually be helping to decrease the ambient humidity since the condensed water used to be in the air and now is stuck to the side of my jug.

This has got me thinking though, has anyone used Dry ice for this purpose? Dry Ice seems like it would be perfect because it is actually solid CO2. It melts directly from solid to gas, so there would be no mess or increase in humidity, plus it would provide CO2 for the plants. I would try it myself, but it Dry Ice is a little on the pricey side for my low budget grow.

I figured I would put the idea out there though just for shits and giggles.
 

potlike

Well-Known Member
build yourself a diy air conditioner using dry ice and jugs of water as the medium or if you want I'll take a picture of one I built for another purpose and sell em cheap :)


here is a how to I ran into - I actually had made almost the same design for my car about 7 years ago

you seem to have the right idea however just throw it into some kind of thermal container like those styrofoam coolers from walmart - if you want to get fancy put it all in copper tubing with a water pump and do active cooling like a refrigerator just with water instead.

another option that I am unsure HOW SAFE it would be grabbing air conditioner refill kits at walmart with their regulators & psi meters OUTSIDE(don't need those cans to explode due to heat) of the grow room - run copper tubing to a fan inside the grow room and use that as the active coolant then back to a disposal bucket so you can empty the leftovers.

Personally, I opted for a 5000 btu window ac which i built a wood frame and a drip bucket that JUST IN CASE it drips it doesn't make a mess, however the ac's today are designed to NOT do that.

-pot
 

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
I have been trying to keep my temp down in my closet, but it's hard to do most of the time because I have to keep everything shut for stealth reasons, and can't have any vents in the closet for the same reason. I have to have it totally hidden when I am not at home. What I've been doing is freezing a 1 gallon water jug (or 2) and sticking it in there on the intake side of the fan. I put the jug in there in the AM when I leave for work, and by the time I get home it has completely melted, but it seems to keep the temp down by a good 10 degrees or so (I am running at about 90 degrees F without the ice, and 80F with it.) Then I stick the jug back in the freezer when I get home so it's frozen again for the next morning.
Brilliant.. I love the ingenuity.. congrats bro!!!
 

Murfy

Well-Known Member
thanks hear...

If you draw hot air out through the attic and have anopenig to the crawl space below your houe, you don;t even need a fan blown air in... Cool air will get drawn in byitself as the hot air is blow out.. ( a vaccum effect)..

Unless of course you are running 7000 watts hid in a 10x10 room and you need as mich flow as possible.. Then a vent blowing cool air in as well as drawing hot air out may be wise :)
convection
 
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