Could We Make a Weed Religion?
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Finshaggy
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I'm almost positive I can get Marijuana legalized RELIGIOUSLY in Texas with my court case. This research was done in one night, and will be added to gradually, to make it more airtight.
Can you please take a look at this (or send it to an attorney who will) and tell me what you think.
The police came into my house without a warrant.
Marijuana is my sacrament (as can be proven in a court of law, shown below)
They broke into my house, stole my sacrament, and pulled guns on me, arrested me and a friend, threatened to "slam" me. And let my friends case go off free already. We got misdemeanor possession charges.
All without stating who they were, without having a warrant, and without probable cause.
Here are some cases that are specifically related to my case
And that would be helpful after demanding a trial in Common Law court.
United States v. Ballard (1944)
Justice William O. Douglas stated:"They may not be put to the proof of their religious doctrines or beliefs."
Meaning, I shouldn't have to prove a damn thing. But I will anyways.
Lemon v. Kurtzman, 91 S. Ct. 2105 (1971)
The rulings made here were violated. The police had no warrant, and therefore no secular purpose. And have entangled themselves in my religion since I was a child at 14 years old.
1) the government action must have a secular purpose;
2) its primary purpose must not be to inhibit or to advance religion;
3) there must be no excessive entanglement between government and religion.
McDaniel v. Paty (197
They are taking away my fundamental rights.
Life: They wish to take my time
Liberty: They wish to infringe on my religious freedoms, and put me in a cage for loving a flower
The Pursuit of Happiness: Any effort I make with my religion is squashed by authority. And in effect, squashing me.
Church of Lukumi Babalu Ave., Inc. v. Hialeah, 113 S. Ct. 2217 (1993)
They ruled that the religious sacrifice of animals, is no different than hunting. And it is unconstitutional to consider the two different.
If that is true. Why is tobacco, alcohol, nutmeg, tea, coffee, energy drinks and even corn, and wheat (it has food and industrial uses) allowed to be grown and used legally while marijuana is not. This is unconstitutional.
And I will prove in court that it is unconstitutional to consider using Marijuana "worse", "different", or "more dangerous" than using alcohol, tobacco, or nutmeg, by saying:
"I've been high since before I wrote this case, while I researched and wrote it, and I've been high the whole time I've been in this courtroom."
Their only defense left will be the money going to Mexico. And there are plenty of ways to prove that has nothing to do with the trial.
ESA v. Rylander (2001)
We do not even have to define a supreme being, I do connect Shiva when smoking. But that doesn't have to be specified, or important.
YFZ Ranch VS The State of Texas (200
This ruling IN TEXAS, says that they were not allowed to come into my house, for any reason, no matter WHAT they thought was going on.
They were UNWARRANTED, and it was an illegal search and seizure.
And this, from 2005:
Texas Civil Practice & Remedies Code CHAPTER 110. RELIGIOUS FREEDOM
I refuse to participate in the drug war my state is involved in, but they force me to. And I refuse to have not only my religion but my life substantially burdened by law enforcement, probation, and everyone else.
Plus there are around 15-100< people (That I spoke to from the age of 14 to 18 which was the time of my arrest): Probation officers, Correctional Officers, Psychologists, Therapists in and out of jail, Peers, and Elders that can, on the stand, say that it was part of my religion. I even yelled it as I was brought into detention centers, and spoke to people about it for months as I was imprisoned. They made talking about religion against the rules in my pod because of me. They'll remember.
There are tons of posts of mine on the internet regarding my religious reverence for Marijuana.
There should be a record of my asking for a Rig Veda (My religious Texts) in the County Jail. And possibly record of something about it in the Juvenile detention center. Definitely could get some good words from my required therapist there.
But with all of this on my side, do you think I could legalize Marijuana in my county? Or maybe the state, if I go the the supreme court of Texas? This is a violation of rights that happens daily, and the statute NEEDS to be reviewed, and added to. At least in Texas, one of the biggest admitted habitual marijuana smoking states in America.
Also I would like to add.
I am, and WAS an ordained minister before the time of my arrest.
And when arrested we had a philosophical book explaining how religious sacraments are taken. "Food of the gods"
The police saw this book, and talked to us about it.
They could have read some passages, and spoke calmly about what religious sacraments were taking place, but instead they slandered my faith to my face.
I am a medical patient of Marijuana in another state.
In one state I am allowed to use it to heal, in Texas (My home state, the best state, the best COUNTRY) it is used by the government to impair my religion.
Texas means "Friends/Allies", not "Corrupted Justice"...What happened to "Blind" Justice?
Can you please take a look at this (or send it to an attorney who will) and tell me what you think.
The police came into my house without a warrant.
Marijuana is my sacrament (as can be proven in a court of law, shown below)
They broke into my house, stole my sacrament, and pulled guns on me, arrested me and a friend, threatened to "slam" me. And let my friends case go off free already. We got misdemeanor possession charges.
All without stating who they were, without having a warrant, and without probable cause.
Here are some cases that are specifically related to my case
And that would be helpful after demanding a trial in Common Law court.
United States v. Ballard (1944)
Justice William O. Douglas stated:"They may not be put to the proof of their religious doctrines or beliefs."
Meaning, I shouldn't have to prove a damn thing. But I will anyways.
Lemon v. Kurtzman, 91 S. Ct. 2105 (1971)
The rulings made here were violated. The police had no warrant, and therefore no secular purpose. And have entangled themselves in my religion since I was a child at 14 years old.
1) the government action must have a secular purpose;
2) its primary purpose must not be to inhibit or to advance religion;
3) there must be no excessive entanglement between government and religion.
McDaniel v. Paty (197
They are taking away my fundamental rights.
Life: They wish to take my time
Liberty: They wish to infringe on my religious freedoms, and put me in a cage for loving a flower
The Pursuit of Happiness: Any effort I make with my religion is squashed by authority. And in effect, squashing me.
Church of Lukumi Babalu Ave., Inc. v. Hialeah, 113 S. Ct. 2217 (1993)
They ruled that the religious sacrifice of animals, is no different than hunting. And it is unconstitutional to consider the two different.
If that is true. Why is tobacco, alcohol, nutmeg, tea, coffee, energy drinks and even corn, and wheat (it has food and industrial uses) allowed to be grown and used legally while marijuana is not. This is unconstitutional.
And I will prove in court that it is unconstitutional to consider using Marijuana "worse", "different", or "more dangerous" than using alcohol, tobacco, or nutmeg, by saying:
"I've been high since before I wrote this case, while I researched and wrote it, and I've been high the whole time I've been in this courtroom."
Their only defense left will be the money going to Mexico. And there are plenty of ways to prove that has nothing to do with the trial.
ESA v. Rylander (2001)
We do not even have to define a supreme being, I do connect Shiva when smoking. But that doesn't have to be specified, or important.
YFZ Ranch VS The State of Texas (200
This ruling IN TEXAS, says that they were not allowed to come into my house, for any reason, no matter WHAT they thought was going on.
They were UNWARRANTED, and it was an illegal search and seizure.
And this, from 2005:
Texas Civil Practice & Remedies Code CHAPTER 110. RELIGIOUS FREEDOM
I refuse to participate in the drug war my state is involved in, but they force me to. And I refuse to have not only my religion but my life substantially burdened by law enforcement, probation, and everyone else.
Plus there are around 15-100< people (That I spoke to from the age of 14 to 18 which was the time of my arrest): Probation officers, Correctional Officers, Psychologists, Therapists in and out of jail, Peers, and Elders that can, on the stand, say that it was part of my religion. I even yelled it as I was brought into detention centers, and spoke to people about it for months as I was imprisoned. They made talking about religion against the rules in my pod because of me. They'll remember.
There are tons of posts of mine on the internet regarding my religious reverence for Marijuana.
There should be a record of my asking for a Rig Veda (My religious Texts) in the County Jail. And possibly record of something about it in the Juvenile detention center. Definitely could get some good words from my required therapist there.
But with all of this on my side, do you think I could legalize Marijuana in my county? Or maybe the state, if I go the the supreme court of Texas? This is a violation of rights that happens daily, and the statute NEEDS to be reviewed, and added to. At least in Texas, one of the biggest admitted habitual marijuana smoking states in America.
Also I would like to add.
I am, and WAS an ordained minister before the time of my arrest.
And when arrested we had a philosophical book explaining how religious sacraments are taken. "Food of the gods"
The police saw this book, and talked to us about it.
They could have read some passages, and spoke calmly about what religious sacraments were taking place, but instead they slandered my faith to my face.
I am a medical patient of Marijuana in another state.
In one state I am allowed to use it to heal, in Texas (My home state, the best state, the best COUNTRY) it is used by the government to impair my religion.
Texas means "Friends/Allies", not "Corrupted Justice"...What happened to "Blind" Justice?
mindphuk
Well-Known Member
Dude, how many times must people tell you that you have no case.
Regardless of whether you think it is right or wrong, the SCOTUS has already ruled on use of prohibited drugs for religious purposes (Oregon v Smith 1990). The 1st Amendment guarantees your religious freedom by not keeping you from believing what you want or forcing you to accept other religion through law. They have made it clear however that actions are treated separate from beliefs. Using your logic, the state cannot prohibit human sacrifice if it can be shown to be an integral part of someone's religion.
I gave you the links in another thread before the hacker attack but in typical shinfaggy style you promptly ignored it while hurling insults at me. This is in spite of the fact that I am on your side and I think the justices were wrong wrt to cannabis use since it does not interfere with the rights of any other individual like human sacrifice would. However, the courts have continually rejected these claims regardless of merit and standing.
[video=youtube;fhx46dKBO60]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fhx46dKBO60[/video]
Regardless of whether you think it is right or wrong, the SCOTUS has already ruled on use of prohibited drugs for religious purposes (Oregon v Smith 1990). The 1st Amendment guarantees your religious freedom by not keeping you from believing what you want or forcing you to accept other religion through law. They have made it clear however that actions are treated separate from beliefs. Using your logic, the state cannot prohibit human sacrifice if it can be shown to be an integral part of someone's religion.
I gave you the links in another thread before the hacker attack but in typical shinfaggy style you promptly ignored it while hurling insults at me. This is in spite of the fact that I am on your side and I think the justices were wrong wrt to cannabis use since it does not interfere with the rights of any other individual like human sacrifice would. However, the courts have continually rejected these claims regardless of merit and standing.
[video=youtube;fhx46dKBO60]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fhx46dKBO60[/video]
Finshaggy
Well-Known Member
Why the FUCK do you think the Texas supreme court would GIVE A FUCK what happened in an Oregon courthouse?
And for anyone thinking the very valid point of: "Why should Texas GIVE A FUCK about religious marijuana? It's Texas."
I've got that part worked out, don't worry.
mindphuk
Well-Known Member
Stare decisisWhy the FUCK do you think the Texas supreme court would GIVE A FUCK what happened in an Oregon courthouse?
Finshaggy
Well-Known Member
Lol.
Sounds like you don't understand common law.
Say you live in Denton county. You don't have to follow Dallas County laws, or any rulings of Dallas county courts.
Now say you just generally live in Texas.
You don't follow Oregon state laws, or follow rulings of Oregon state courts.
Now Texas state court could rule for both Dallas and Denton law.
Or the Federal courts could set common-law for both Oregon and Texas.
But Texas, DOES NOT follow Oregon state courts rulings.
That would be stupid.
mindphuk
Well-Known Member
Sounds like you don't seem to know or care what I know. Every court in Texas is bound by decisions of higher courts. Either you're too lazy or stupid to even bother to look but Oregon v Smith was heard by the SCOTUS, it was not a decision in Oregon, the state of Oregon was the defendant in federal court which ended with the SCOTUS decision that I was referring to. Of course with your extensive legal knowledge of one night of research, I'm sure you knew that.
Not only that, you cannot just petition the SC of Texas and get your case heard, it must go through the state's appellate process and it is highly unlikely you will ever get there.
Go ahead, ignore everything that everyone tells you, even NORML's legal counsel, I could give a fuck but you are a fucking joke that you think that one night of research will somehow give you legal right to smoke weed when people have been fighting this in courts for decades. You should read about the Ethiopian Zion Coptic Church and their court battles but I doubt you will because it contradicts your position.
Finshaggy
Well-Known Member
If you actually read, I already said that Texas courts are bound by higher courts. HIGHER courts, not Oregon courts.Sounds like you don't seem to know or care what I know. Every court in Texas is bound by decisions of higher courts. Either you're too lazy or stupid to even bother to look but Oregon v Smith was heard by the SCOTUS, it was not a decision in Oregon, the state of Oregon was the defendant in federal court which ended with the SCOTUS decision that I was referring to. Of course with your extensive legal knowledge of one night of research, I'm sure you knew that.
Not only that, you cannot just petition the SC of Texas and get your case heard, it must go through the state's appellate process and it is highly unlikely you will ever get there.
Go ahead, ignore everything that everyone tells you, even NORML's legal counsel, I could give a fuck but you are a fucking joke that you think that one night of research will somehow give you legal right to smoke weed when people have been fighting this in courts for decades. You should read about the Ethiopian Zion Coptic Church and their court battles but I doubt you will because it contradicts your position.
And if it really was heard by the US supreme court, then that's where the fuck I'll go. Just gotta go to the Texas one first.
"Everyone tells me?"
More like 2 or 3 people. Everyone else is either excited, or argues stupid unrelated points.I didn't say I was going to court tomorrow, I know it will take time.
mindphuk
Well-Known Member
I didn't mention a decision by an Oregon court. Are you unable to read? It is a decision by SCOTUS your fucking moron!!!
mindphuk
Well-Known Member
Fine, you win. You will be successful in Texas court legalizing marijuana for all. Good for you, now shut the fuck up about it and just do it. You keep posting here asking for help, "Can you please take a look at this (or send it to an attorney who will) and tell me what you think." and then promptly argue against or ignore anyone that tries to tell you the uphill battle that you will face. If you don't want the advice of people here, then stop fucking asking for it!!!!
Finshaggy
Well-Known Member
LOL
I don't keep posting asking for help, that's just what happens when you copy and paste
Sorry for your little misunderstanding.
Feel better now though?
Finshaggy
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Really? Really?well if you ever get that up and running i would so much like to be one of the first who enjoys it and worship it
Finshaggy
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Many Rastas do reasoning on a daily basis. Which includes smoking weed and discussing the world. There are also holidays, known as "groundation". Where they smoke weed, and there is about 1 of these per month, sometimes 2 or maybe more. And there is already a real weed religion.