Covid-19

curious2garden

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I would feel guilty of course. But that’s a wild assumption to place on me. And how would I even be aware that I spawned a new variant?

What about all the millions of children unvaccinated? They are perfect hosts for mutations. Not only that they are perpetual. So there will always be a host for mutations and suggesting it will be only me is somewhat amusing and extremely far fetched.

It could be you with the vaccine that the virus mutates in since you carry the vaccines code rather than creating a natural immunity to Covid.

Who knows?

All I know is that the world panicked in face of a new virus and needed a key to unlock itself.

@Roger A. Shrubber

Sure we can do good and help one another’s suffering. But this is a world of good and evil and the powers at be are questionable at the least
You use the what about irrelevancy to shift the burden of your choice into a Strawman Argument.

How does natural immunity vary from vaccine induced immunity? We the vaccinated, react to the spike protein. Your 'natural' immunity may react against any part of the virus and often not the most effective part. We chose the best protein to vaccinate for. Natural immunity has a luck variable.

As for who knows, almost all medical professionals. Unfortunately many people with zero education in medical science believe they know more than the physicians and researchers. That sort of ignorant hubris is shocking to me. I am well educated in my field but I'd never tell my husband how to overhaul an engine. I respect his education in his field. I don't know where or why people lost respect for education. By education I don't mean the dross found on youtube, facebook or other back alleys of the internet.
 

Nutty sKunK

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You use the what about irrelevancy to shift the burden of your choice into a Strawman Argument.

How does natural immunity vary from vaccine induced immunity? We the vaccinated, react to the spike protein. Your 'natural' immunity may react against any part of the virus and often not the most effective part. We chose the best protein to vaccinate for. Natural immunity has a luck variable.

As for who knows, almost all medical professionals. Unfortunately many people with zero education in medical science believe they know more than the physicians and researchers. That sort of ignorant hubris is shocking to me. I am well educated in my field but I'd never tell my husband how to overhaul an engine. I respect his education in his field. I don't know where or why people lost respect for education. By education I don't mean the dross found on youtube, facebook or other back alleys of the internet.
Minimal burden it is. Not like i’m shaggin folk knowing I’ve got HIV lol


Luck variable of genetics? You have to be UNlucky to die from Covid not survive it!

To put it simply. If this virus was natural and had a high mortality rate I would get the vaccine.

Also one last thing, not aimed directly at you but just what I’ve noticed.

Lack of respect. What do I mean by respect? I mean respect in the sense of respecting ones opinions even if you don’t agree with them.

We live in a world where we try to change others opinions to what we believe is good or the right thing to do.

If you want the vaccine do it - you’re protected. If you don’t well that’s your risk.

And what is stopping the virus from mutating in a vaccinated person?

I can’t be bothered talking about this anymore. Look we are just arguing over an opinion. Just what governments what us to do. Divide and conquer.

You have your protection and I have mine :)
 

tyler.durden

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She did the right thing. If you make statements like that you are not long for a job in the caring professions. You simply don't debate them and raise the level of their anger. You shut up, treat them and be done. That's why I chose surgery. I can be polite for a minute or two with anyone.
Then you can anesthetize them quickly to shut them up. That must be awesome ;)
 

curious2garden

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If they were an asshole I'd be tempted to whisper "I'll try my best, but...you know, no guarantees"
There was this one guy who used a rubber mallet to put the wheel covers back on my brand new Trans Am. He broke them and the car was so new they weren't available yet (not even from the dealer). I was so angry. A little gang banger shit.

I got in his face and quietly and calmly told him that EVERYONE comes to surgery before they die and he better hope to god he doesn't cross my OR table. I'd take the same care of him he took of my car. I then blocked off my lower face and hair and suggested he memorize my eyes.

I'll be damned not 2 weeks later at the next meeting of the knife and gun club guess who shows up with a GSW :lol: I did my usual and walked in, leaned over him, pulled down my mask and he's screaming like a girl and fighting to get off the table. Which is quite a feat when you are slammed by curare, propofol and loss of blood.

I took a closer look and realized who it was. I laughed all the way to the scrub sink and no he did not live through it. There's only so much blood and brain matter you can afford to lose.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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There was this one guy who used a rubber mallet to put the wheel covers back on my brand new Trans Am. He broke them and the car was so new they weren't available yet (not even from the dealer). I was so angry. A little gang banger shit.

I got in his face and quietly and calmly told him that EVERYONE comes to surgery before they die and he better hope to god he doesn't cross my OR table. I'd take the same care of him he took of my car. I then blocked off my lower face and hair and suggested he memorize my eyes.

I'll be damned not 2 weeks later at the next meeting of the knife and gun club guess who shows up with a GSW :lol: I did my usual and walked in, leaned over him, pulled down my mask and he's screaming like a girl and fighting to get off the table. Which is quite a feat when you are slammed by curare, propofol and loss of blood.

I took a closer look and realized who it was. I laughed all the way to the scrub sink and no he did not live through it. There's only so much blood and brain matter you can afford to lose.
Karma's a bitch... :lol:
 

curious2garden

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Karma's a bitch... :lol:
Sometimes literally. We all did our best to save him. I would never have hurt someone for damaging an inanimate object. I had forgotten he existed by that time. But at that point what can you say? Sometimes there's so much damage there's nothing you can do but pray and yeah I did and sometimes the answer is no.
 

cannabineer

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Hmm wasn’t aware of that. Still I trust in my body and if it can’t cope then it shouldn’t be here. That’s been the way since time began. You earn your place in this world otherwise there would be no continuation of certain species if the retarded ones always multiplied lol Natural immunity to Covid is better than vaccination. It’s just a guessing game though.

I find it interesting that. More people vaccinated = more chance of the virus mutating within a host who is vaccinated. Especially since new data suggests the vaccine loses its effectiveness after months of immunisation.

What about that miracle man found to have complete natural immunity to Covid? We could lose a way of immunity through vaccinating everyone.

Even if there are two people out of 8 billion unvaccinated the virus has a chance to mutate. Africa for example has a highly religious and skeptical view on vaccines in certain communities. You ain’t gonna vaccinate everyone although I do understand your logic.

I’m sure I’ll be alright, thanks for your concern :)
That is a risky proposition.
 

curious2garden

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That is a risky proposition.
Yup they are 180 out on the science and their assumptions about what they read are just so wrong. You can't have a conversation with people who see a conspiracy behind thousands of medical professionals and then don't have the science to understand what they are being told or reading. Oh well, nothing you can do.
 
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