Cow Manure vs Chicken Poop

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SilenceIsGolden

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What are your experiences with either or? Any noticeable difference in growth and finish product?

I want this outdoor to have all the nutes in the ground from veg to flower, no liquid ferts or top dressing. Which is better to accomplish that?
 
lickalotapus

lickalotapus

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They are both good , chicken poop contains a bit mor nitrogen as chickens pee in they're poop , blood and bone is great as well , and a bit of compost in each hole works a treat , I've got some 4 m tall plants that aren't far of harvest and they've only had water since planting, good luck
 
Rob Roy

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^^^ I would also consider some dolomite lime if the soil warranted it as well as the good suggestions for bone and blood meal above. Stay safe.
 
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SilenceIsGolden

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Thanks for the input ya'll. I'll definitely be adding bone meal but is it that more beneficial to have both blood and bone?

I was going to order the chicken manure since the stores here don't sell it but now I may go with the cow manure since its readily available.

Cow manure would add more volume to the hole compared to chicken, right? In a 3x3x1 hole how much manure should be added?

I'll also be adding some dolomite lime, sand, and ewc.
 
Rob Roy

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You might also consider some perlite and some water retention crystals. The ability of the roots to breathe and have a happy rhizosphere could pay off.
 
Worldseriesofweed

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Horse crap is good to grow straight in. If you can get some horse shit mix it with half promix and that should be everything the plant needs for flowering.
 
Cowboykush

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Ive been using straight horse manure for yrs & last yr added pigeon manure because i now have a coop of birds...really saw a difference i think it is over 4% nit
 
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SilenceIsGolden

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I live not too far from some large horse farms so I'm sure I could get plenty of horse manure for free or low cost. I'll check it out and follow up soon.

Is chicken manure common in the stores in yalls areas? I would have to order it as it seems the big name stores dont carry it, only cow manure and mushroom compost.
 
lickalotapus

lickalotapus

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SilenceIsGolden said:
Another thing...

If its already composted is it safe to directly sow seeds in or should I wait a few weeks for the mix to settle?
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As some one said , dolomite lime is great as it not only corrects soil ph but also gives the plant much needed calcium and magnesium , I'd definitely mix the holes , water and let them sit for at least 3 weeks , even longer if placing seedlings in the holes ,

im not sure of the type of soil your working with but I mix about 1/3 coco ,1/3 manures and bloodbone,1/3 native soil,and some dolomite lime . Some times up to half native ssoil.

you could always sprout your seeds in small pots with seedling starter mix,and get your holes mixed and ready , and in 3 weeks the small plants will be ready for the holes , and the holes will be well baked
 
sonar

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I'm not big on manure with either my mj or my vegetable garden. There are high quality, organic-based time released nutrient mixes out there that work great and are much easier to measure. Other than being dirty and unsanitary, there is no way of really knowing how much nitrogen and other compounds they contain, nor how quickly it is released.
 
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lickalotapus said:
As some one said , dolomite lime is great as it not only corrects soil ph but also gives the plant much needed calcium and magnesium , I'd definitely mix the holes , water and let them sit for at least 3 weeks , even longer if placing seedlings in the holes ,

im not sure of the type of soil your working with but I mix about 1/3 coco ,1/3 manures and bloodbone,1/3 native soil,and some dolomite lime . Some times up to half native ssoil.

you could always sprout your seeds in small pots with seedling starter mix,and get your holes mixed and ready , and in 3 weeks the small plants will be ready for the holes , and the holes will be well baked
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Very nice! Here's what I was going to mix:

(20) 2 cubic feet bags of Lamberts Garden Soil
4 cubic feet of whatever composted manure
2 cubic feet of perlite
(1) 40lbs bag of bone meal
EWC Castings...approx 2 cu ft

Ill also top dress with a little of the native sand that grows around here as Ive read silica is good for mj plus the tortoises and possums love that organic smell. I'm going for 10 25 gallon holes in the ground at minimum. Was thinking 65s but was suggested more smaller holes.

I'll def start the babies in 2 or 3 gal containers while the soil bakes then transplant some time in May or June. Awesome advice guys :)
 
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sonar said:
I'm not big on manure with either my mj or my vegetable garden. There are high quality, organic-based time released nutrient mixes out there that work great and are much easier to measure. Other than being dirty and unsanitary, there is no way of really knowing how much nitrogen and other compounds they contain, nor how quickly it is released.
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I'd like to check some of those out. Any brands you'd recommend?
 
sonar

sonar

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SilenceIsGolden said:
I'd like to check some of those out. Any brands you'd recommend?
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I've been using Fox Farm American Pride. Marine Cuisine is similar but I don't want to take any chances having any residual fish odor too faint for our noses. Advanced Nutrients Heavy Harvest seems popular but I've never used it. There are plenty out there. Think Earth Juice makes a dry mix. My first year guerrilla grow I actually used Osmocote 14-14-14 for like $6 from the hardware store and it worked just fine. I don't use it as my primary source of nutes. I do feed them when I hand water, especially once flowering starts and they start eating heavy.
 
tyson53

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I just aquired 10 yards of 3 year old composted horse manure...my mix will be 90% manure and 10% peat...I went with horse manure since they are fed grains an veggies and fruits...the stuff is loaded in worms so there is my castings...I will add Greensand ...pulverized oyster shells...kelp meal..alphalfa meal...dried blood and bone meal...DE earth..rice hulls...lime...and High Phos guano....they will be fed Teas thru the whole grow...

last year i did a grow with peat based soil and 2 pots with compost soil..the compost blew the others away.. peat just is not a live soil...

This year doing the 9 pound hammer...jamican dream..C99...Ken's Blueberry ..kaboom...and a early skunk....and a Pinot noir if I get the cut...

Should be a good year...
 
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