cannawizard
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*crank out some updates cranky 
more experiments~ hehe
more experiments~ hehe
Cranker's Experiement: Cranking a plant
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bigbillyrocka
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cranker
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Will do
*crank out some updates cranky
Problem is experimenting never yields what proven methods do, but since I grow for myself I know i'm getting at least a qp off the widow so I was just playing games with the cheese. I had an idea that I tried with one of the cupped seeds, tried to see if I could force a twin stalk from a seedling by splitting them and coating them with a combination of super thrive and bud blood and molasses (to keep out the bad stuff) but it failed, one side managed to pull through, so I'm trying to figure out a medium that it would work on. Having a twin stalk and tying each to a side of the pot then tying them down in a circle would had ridiculous potential. Think 20 colas. I also should have used a larger pot but oh well. Thing'll go better with the hps/mh anyway.
haha ridiculous is always good when experimenting.
I just got in my new lighting system, but I'm gonna try the same thing but top it at 5 nodes, with the half branches sticking up. I'm also gonna try burying the main stem after I cut one of the branches. I can see this potentially being a good way to keep a level height without a scrog netting, but it's having some troubles staying up so I'm looking into how I can fix that. I'm keeping the main root and going to see if it starts to regen, it's already regened a branch but it was during flowering and it's not looking like it's gonna yield anything. if I can get it to regen and fim the new branches I could end up with a monster.
cannawizard
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*sounds good brah, im gonna do a thread on grafting'.. havent seen too many threads on it @t RIU
cranker
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The interesting thing is where I cut the branches on the bottom, it looks like the ones up to grew a lot thicker then normal, and they all put out additional branches like they were topped. I think what this did was to trick the plant to thinking there was a new main cola every week or 2. I got a larger pot for the next grow gonna veg it and play around with the nutes, see what I can do. I don't think I'm gonna learn anything overwhelming, but if I find out I can top each branch....that could be a massive yield increase, imagine a plant with 20 colas....and all of them having nothing more than the stress of a topped plant.
alan whittington
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this being an experiment i hope you're open to suggestions. you madde some interesting discoveries. anyways as to your rooting, the bigger the root system the bigger the plant. well i was watching a video by soma on some grow tips while he was in amsterdam. the pulled the plant soil and all out of the pot he was using, filled it up half way and put the plant right back in the same pot. he effectively gave the roots growing room, and he also discovered that some 'dry roots' are good, as they keep the plant from acquiring root rot. he removed the top layer of soil exposing the roots. anyways i'm just saying experiments yield interesting results. now as to the topping why not FIM, you could FIM, LST, and super crop all at once. as well as build a good root structure. and i'm sure we all know there are plenty of things out there to amp it up even more. hit me back anytime..
max316420
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you can root clones while their still on the plant. Take the part of the stem where you want your roots and shave the outter skin off it, next get some rockwool and cut out a strip that is about 6 inches long. Now wrap the strip of rockwool around where you shaved it and secure it with some twist ties. Keep the rockwool damp and youll have roots growing from anywhere on the plant you like without even chopping the cutting off the plant until its rooted. Don't know if this even pertains to what your thread is about but thought i'd throw my 2 cents in
cranker
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Thanks for the suggestions. There's a lot I would like to try. I did try to shave it, I do that with tomato plants, but it didn't seem to like it as well as trying to root the branches, although I did it late in the grow and I loosened the ties when it started to stress a little. Next time I do this (probably not the next grow I have some really nice seeds for it and not enough room to toss a UFO in) I'm going to use a bigger pot and try to FIM the branches. That is an interesting idea about rooting the clones while they are still attached, I could lst them to the other side of the plant and have them fill the middle. So many ideas, I'm installing new lighting too, I had these under cfl.
cranker
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OK...basically...I'm combining LST and supercropping, sort of. I'm tying off the main stem to the side of the container. Then breaking the lower branches growing toward the bottom and treating them like planting a clone, having them root, basically ending up with a circle (I stopped at a half circle cuz I was in a 2 1/2 gallon container and I was kinda making it up as I went) where the lower branch of the node began feeding the upper branch. It basically ended up having what looked like a really thick stem connecting a bunch of single cola indicas. They all developed solid side branches, and if it was in a bigger container I would have topped them. Basically an extremely over complicated way of planting. Between the extra roots causing nute problems, and at the end a caterpillar invasion thanks to my dog's love of moths, I'm not gonna really be able to tell what type of yield it is gonna put out, but I'm gonna try to trim it in a way that I can show exactly what I did.
cranker
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Yeah, at least....I really want to try 2 3 gallons see if I can actually bend a plant from one pot and re-root it into another pot and grow it that way, I think that'd just be a cool thing to try. Get like 5 good colas on each pot and top them all. Who knows I have a lot of ideas, stuff I've done with tomatos (I grew a cherry tomato plant between 50 and 70 feet long).
SirLancelot
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ah man I like that! good shit brother
cranker
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Well I certainly don't see it becoming more than a curiosity in growing techniques, I think it would be a good thing to do with an auto-flower looking it over, a lot of the limbs have regen'd already and are (uselessly) flowering into 3 hair nodes but I can see the potential on an auto.
dirtysnowball
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holy crap you already made a huge leap forward in cannabis growing! i was planning on doing this dam you must have discovered my secret plans! im on to you crankster lol just messin.
that method you did on accident is called "layering". by combining it with all that topping and LST'ing your bound to get a huge bush!! i hope you've heard of re-vegging after you harvest cuz that sucker needs to go into the ground outside next year!
and yes i will be doing this to my plant, when i take her out of the bucket(which shes getting root bound in) im going to keep her laying down, and im gonna bury the main stem and a lot of the plant, its gonna be 8" below the surface
shes gonna be a moster omg i cant wait!!!
just imagine where instead of the wood its gonna be dirt instead! and this thing is gonna have its personal 6'x10' prepped soil grow space
i want to see you doing this to your plant too crancker
that method you did on accident is called "layering". by combining it with all that topping and LST'ing your bound to get a huge bush!! i hope you've heard of re-vegging after you harvest cuz that sucker needs to go into the ground outside next year!
and yes i will be doing this to my plant, when i take her out of the bucket(which shes getting root bound in) im going to keep her laying down, and im gonna bury the main stem and a lot of the plant, its gonna be 8" below the surface
shes gonna be a moster omg i cant wait!!!just imagine where instead of the wood its gonna be dirt instead! and this thing is gonna have its personal 6'x10' prepped soil grow space
i want to see you doing this to your plant too crancker
