Crazytrain's Pc Case Perpetual Autos

I agree with lince, chop thursday. She will actually ripen a touch while she dries and cures, and also the next day and a half till you chop. Plus it will be less on your mind between then and when you get home. Make sure to post some pics

crazytrain14 said:

quick update. rr has gotten nothing but water for the past 4 waterings so the past week or so. about 95% of the hairs are orange. the trichs tell another story though. i am seeing a few ambers but not to many. maybe 5ish%. so here is what im thinking or kind of asking. i am leaving friday morning for new orleans mardi gras and will be back monday night. should i shop the rr thursday night or let it go til tuesday night? looks super ready. bm still has a few weeks.

later dudes

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a problem i had with my RR was trichs changing....i would check it one day and it would have all cloudy trichs and all amber hairs...check it the next day and it would have a ton of new white hairs and a ton of amber trichs...check it the next day and all the hairs had changed...but now there are a ton of new clear and cloudy trichs...very hard plant to read...pic a certain spot around the middle of your main cola and keep checking the same area each time and chop when its ready...the bottom part of the plant will catch up if its not ready soon after harvest

Djruiner and Crazy, I have similar issues. I thought it would be easier to figure out harvest time when I got my eye loupe, but it seems worse. I have a strain that is supposed to take 8 weeks of flower approx, I am currently sitting at about 10 weeks, and I don't see any amber trichs ANYWHERE.

I'm also a bit past the point of NEW hairs popping up as well.

pelt1 said:

Djruiner and Crazy, I have similar issues. I thought it would be easier to figure out harvest time when I got my eye loupe, but it seems worse. I have a strain that is supposed to take 8 weeks of flower approx, I am currently sitting at about 10 weeks, and I don't see any amber trichs ANYWHERE.

I'm also a bit past the point of NEW hairs popping up as well.

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if its a sativa strain...no need to wait till amber trichs..chop sativas when its all cloudy trichs...chop indicas at 50/50....been doing a lot of research and testing on this...sativas are best when all cloudy because its at its most potent then...as the thc breaks down (amber trichs) it starts losing potency.while with indicas as the thc breaks down (amber trichs) its raises its cbd level while the thc level remains the same.the reason people chop with more amber trichs is to get the couchlock effect...but with sativas they naturally have a low cbd level...so as the trichs are turning....your losing potency (thc) where in indicas it has the ability to raise its cbd level..without effecting the thc level....i hope that makes since

djruiner said:

if its a sativa strain...no need to wait till amber trichs..chop sativas when its all cloudy trichs...chop indicas at 50/50....been doing a lot of research and testing on this...sativas are best when all cloudy because its at its most potent then...as the thc breaks down (amber trichs) it starts losing potency.while with indicas as the thc breaks down (amber trichs) its raises its cbd level while the thc level remains the same.the reason people chop with more amber trichs is to get the couchlock effect...but with sativas they naturally have a low cbd level...so as the trichs are turning....your losing potency (thc) where in indicas it has the ability to raise its cbd level..without effecting the thc level....i hope that makes since

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Not saying your wrong, but I have been somewhat to the contrary. I have read that when the trichs turn amber and thc starts to degrade it is CBN which is increased. CBN is responsible for anxiety. So basically cut when you start to see amber. I will go find the link, its an interesting read.

gumball said:

Not saying your wrong, but I have been somewhat to the contrary. I have read that when the trichs turn amber and thc starts to degrade it is CBN which is increased. CBN is responsible for anxiety. So basically cut when you start to see amber. I will go find the link, its an interesting read.

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your right..all but about one part....thc degrades into cdn during cure...not preharvest...your level of cbn is effect by its drying and curing conditions...mainly effected by the light that it gets during cure

here is what i found as it comes to that....

CBN is a result of THC degradation (storing bud, exposure to light and air). It's "mildly" psychoactive and results in the sedative and stupefying effect.

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...http://www.marijuana.com/medicinal-marijuana/18748-cbn.html.....so yes thc does break down into cbn..but only after chop and during its cure...so does not apply when trying to figure out when to harvest

here is what ive been going by....

Cannabinoids (THC, CBD, CBN...)


The Active Ingredients Of Cannabis

Cannabis products include marijuana, hashish, and hashish oil.
THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol) gets a user high, a larger THC content will produce a stronger high. Without THC you don't get high.
CBD (Cannabidiol) increases some of the effects of THC and decreases other effects of THC. High levels of THC and low levels of CBD contribute to a strong, clear headed, more energetic high.
Cannabis that has a high level of both THC and CBD will produce a strong head-stone that feels almost dreamlike. Cannabis that has low levels of THC and high levels of CBD produces more of a stoned feeling. The mind feels dull and the body feels tired.
CBN (Cannabinol) is produced as THC ages and breaks down, this process is known as oxidization. High levels of CBN tend to make the user feel messed up rather than high.
CBN levels can be kept to a minimum by storing cannabis products in a dark, cool, airtight environment. marijuana should be dry prior to storage, and may have to be dried again after being stored somewhere that is humid.
THCV (Tetrahydrocannabivarin) is found primarily in strains of African and Asian cannabis. THCV increases the speed and intensity of THC effects, but also causes the high to end sooner. Weed that smells strong (prior to smoking) might indicate a high level of THCV.
CBC (Cannabichromene) is probably not psychoactive in pure form but is thought to interact with THC to enhance the high.
CBL (Cannabicyclol) is a degradative product like CBN. Light converts CBC to CBL.
If you are a grower, you can experiment with different strains of cannabis to produce the various qualities you seek. A medical user looking for something with sleep inducing properties might want to produce a crop that has high levels of CBD.
Another user looking for a more energetic high will want to grow a strain that has high levels of THC and low levels of CBD. In general, Cannabis sativa has lower levels of CBD and higher levels of THC. Cannabis indica has higher amounts of CBD and lower amounts of THC than sativa.

Here is the link I was referring too. You kind of have to read it all. BrickTop posted some good info throughout. I know it changed my opinion and I will harvest as soon as I see the first sign of amber from now on.

https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/401972-new-high-times-suggests-harvesting.html

gumball said:

Here is the link I was referring too. You kind of have to read it all. BrickTop posted some good info throughout. I know it changed my opinion and I will harvest as soon as I see the first sign of amber from now on.

https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/401972-new-high-times-suggests-harvesting.html

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read through some of it and i agree with most of it...thats when i chop my sativas...when its a mix of clear/cloudy..but mostly cloudy...my indicas ill wait for the amber trichs to get the couchlock...it all depends on the strain..most people group sativas and indicas together and judge the trichs the same..cant do that..the trich color will get different results with each strain

crazytrain14 said:

yo jp whats happenin man. everythings going great might harvest hte rr on thurs

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Hell yea that sounds good to me!! Enjoy the fruits of your labor my friend!! I'll be waiting for pics and weight count!

djruiner said:

if its a sativa strain...no need to wait till amber trichs..chop sativas when its all cloudy trichs...chop indicas at 50/50....

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Well right now I am dealing with Northern Lights from Nirvana, which they bill as a hybrid indica/sativa mix. Also my plan was to chop at the initial sign of amber trichs this harvest. I initially planned on chopping at day 60, but now I'm sitting at day 71 for one of the plants, and day 66 for the other. Neither of which I see ANY sign of amber ANYWHERE. And I still really don't see the difference between cloudy and crystal-clear trichs. I was hoping I'd develop an eye for that on this harvest by observing the general progression from clear to partially amber. And that I haven't seen imo yet so I'm not sure. But probably I really just am not sure of what I am looking at.

But..... I will say this weekend it's getting chopped no matter what.

Here are some examples of what it looked like 6 days ago:

massive reply. ive decided to chop thursday.

DuBzZ said:

If its only 5% now then I would say to just wait until you come back, unless the trichs look better on Thursday

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thanks for the input man. i think i will chop thursday regarless.

lince said:

Don't you have somebody who can chop her down on saturday/sunday ? hehe

If most/all the trichomes are cloudy I'll go for it on Thursday. Also how fast is she ripening up ? coz it's a 5 days difference and she could get very ripe in 5 days or maybe just up to 10% ... ?

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nah man me and my girl are headed to new orleans for mardi gras. so no body at the house. she has been ripening very fast. it started flowering at day 12 or 13 lol

nickman said:

wait till u come back ...

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no thanks lol wanna get it over with lol

gumball said:

I agree with lince, chop thursday. She will actually ripen a touch while she dries and cures, and also the next day and a half till you chop. Plus it will be less on your mind between then and when you get home. Make sure to post some pics

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yeah man i know plants will ripen a lil more after the chop. all the hairs are now orange so its bout time. most are cloudy, trichs that is, so either or it will get me high lol. and id rather not be thinking or worrying bout it while im out of town with no control over watering and stuff. thanks bro

djruiner said:

a problem i had with my RR was trichs changing....i would check it one day and it would have all cloudy trichs and all amber hairs...check it the next day and it would have a ton of new white hairs and a ton of amber trichs...check it the next day and all the hairs had changed...but now there are a ton of new clear and cloudy trichs...very hard plant to read...pic a certain spot around the middle of your main cola and keep checking the same area each time and chop when its ready...the bottom part of the plant will catch up if its not ready soon after harvest

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thanks for the input dj. yeah ours are deff doing the same thing but not for long death to her on thursday night.

pelt1 said:

Djruiner and Crazy, I have similar issues. I thought it would be easier to figure out harvest time when I got my eye loupe, but it seems worse. I have a strain that is supposed to take 8 weeks of flower approx, I am currently sitting at about 10 weeks, and I don't see any amber trichs ANYWHERE.

I'm also a bit past the point of NEW hairs popping up as well.

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not to many white hairs still popping out. i had that problem with my dwc regs seed grow. pushing out white hairs at week 11 lol

djruiner said:

if its a sativa strain...no need to wait till amber trichs..chop sativas when its all cloudy trichs...chop indicas at 50/50....been doing a lot of research and testing on this...sativas are best when all cloudy because its at its most potent then...as the thc breaks down (amber trichs) it starts losing potency.while with indicas as the thc breaks down (amber trichs) its raises its cbd level while the thc level remains the same.the reason people chop with more amber trichs is to get the couchlock effect...but with sativas they naturally have a low cbd level...so as the trichs are turning....your losing potency (thc) where in indicas it has the ability to raise its cbd level..without effecting the thc level....i hope that makes since

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good info man thanks

gumball and dj good links. thanks for the info id rep yall but it wont let me haha pics of harvest and everything on thursdayevening hopefully if now then tuesday. getting home and seeing parkway drive monday night so well see how alive im feeling after the drive and a kick ass freakin concert.

Have fun at the concert man and i'm really looking forward to the harvest and next batch of update pictures.

Glad you enjoyed the link. There are so many ways to do stuff with cannabis, its hard to decide. But at the end of the day it comes to your preference and making it work for you. Have a great time at mardi gras

DAY 48/42
Plant Stage: flower/seedling
Light Cycle: 18/6
Lights: 1 125w 2700k 2 13w 6500k
Medium: ffof with seabird guano added
Ferts:water
Strain: Dinafem roadrunner auto, nirvana auto blue mystic fem, flash seeds purple mazar

yo everyone,

so got to thinkin and smoking and the more that happened i some how found myself trimming this lil lady. so long story short she is hanging to dry lol. trichs looked all cloudy and bout 10-15%amber. very fruity smell but not a strong smell. finished up at 48 days of life.here's a few pics of the before, after, trimmings, and the reward drink. majic hat #9. very tasty. wet weight was 23 grams lol wont be much but itll be tasty.








on to the blue mystic. she is soaking up alot more light now and looking good. starting to see tiny spots of blueish colors on bud tips. she is on day 42.



purple mazar. 5 days old now. i went ahead and transplanted it to a larger final pot. i put it to the side of the pot so when i do lst her i have more room to pull it across the pot. i learned with autos to start in final pot. the rr roots were only 2 in deep but wide. here is elliot hanging out


peace

Nice little harvest, I'm sure it'll be some fire smoke.. Enjoy it man, can't wait to get something started myself.. +rep bro

thanks bro

LOOKING GREAT CRAZY TRAIN!!!
mmm i bet its definitely going to be a tasty 23 or so grams !
good job bro, i cannot fucking wait until i harvest.
JEALOUS

Looks great. I think you will still be happy with the end product. Have a great time in Mardi Gras