bicycle racer
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if he did one would achieve more clarity in there posts i would think.
Creation vs Evolution vs Whatever Else
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Stoney McFried
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It takes all kinds, I guess.
cbtwohundread
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physics dont apply to me and i dont apply to my physical its temporary like being a man,your a baby twice you come out of the pussy and you shit and piss mamma has to change your little diaper then your a man you have to change mamas diaper cuz shes a little baby again.....and inbetween then and then you have to find truth in space and water and fire and dirt cuz thats all thats forever cuz then you will bee dirt and wind and fire see you beleive in lies and i beleive in truth so run away liars i am the truth and run away shadows cuz im some lite i am the herb smoke me and get wisdom soloman was the wisest one....
Stoney McFried
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Well...if physics don't apply, you should be able to bungee jump with an extra long cord, right, dude?
CrackerJax
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evidently, computers, electricity and the internet apply........
Stoney McFried
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Those who are against science should not accept any of its benefits.
Bon3z
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Whoa Kay.... lots of ground to cover so bear with me. if i stray i apologize, im stoned...
I'd first like to say CHASE THE BASS where'd you go man? i said finally! another quantum enthusiast!
Stoney, LOL, DUDE YOU RAWK!
i share many of Stoney's views on life in regards to people and their own religion i.e. i dont care what religion you are, its your choice, just keep it out of work, school etc. Hey Stoney, has anyone ever told you that you're very left AND right brained?
Thats a lot of effin information to go through in one sitting..... after page 10 i started skimming to save time lol, blunt #2.5 is where im at right now after reading all that i have.... some of the posts made me laugh so hard that i nearly peed mahself! others made me feel like doing this
Anyway, my main point is that i cant believe that quantum theory/physics was only mentioned ONCE in 20 pages of posts. Have none of you seen the documentary film "What the Bleep: Down the Rabbit Hole"? (ok im not implying an "OMG i cant believe you have not seen it" attitude, its just a question
) If not, i recommend, nay, DARE you to watch it. I DARE you to open your mind to infinite possibilities, to get a perspective that is neither comforting or easy to fathom, to make an attempt at increasing the level of brain activity that you are aware of, to question the very fabric of reality and the universe as you know it. so take one of these and sit back a sec.
This is Straight from Wikipedia under search: quantum physics
"Quantum mechanics is a set of principles underlying the most fundamental known description of all physical systems at the submicroscopic scale (at the atomic level). Notable among these principles are simultaneous wave-like and particle-like behavior of matter and radiation ("Waveparticle duality"), and the prediction of probabilities in situations where classical physics predicts certainties. Classical physics can be derived as a good approximation to quantum physics, typically in circumstances with large numbers of particles. Thus quantum phenomena are particularly relevant in systems whose dimensions are close to the atomic scale, such as molecules, atoms, electrons, protons and other subatomic particles. Exceptions exist for certain systems which exhibit quantum mechanical effects on macroscopic scale; superfluidity is one well-known example. Quantum theory provides accurate descriptions for many previously unexplained phenomena such as black body radiation and stable electron orbits. It has also given insight into the workings of many different biological systems, including smell receptors and protein structures." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_physics
That best explains in short the very broad spectrum of studied areas in quantum mechanics. They just say it better than i do lol.
I do need to say one thing before i continue to my OPINIONS and SELF DISCOVERIES: I have no problem with religion as a whole, do what you want, i dont care, just dont force it on me, as i dont force anything on you.
For so long scientists and physicists alike have been looking in the wrong direction, as have many of you posting on this thread, in my opinion. Right now the focus is on the grand scale of GOD and CREATION and EVOLUTION which are all good and all have their cooky aspects, that comes with this kind of territory and im sure MOST of you will agree with me on that (hopefully). When i say wrong direction i mean just that, were looking OUT instead of in... To the molecular level. We look at Einstein and see, wow, E=mc^2 / theory of relativity and all of that. Einstein HATED quantum theory, he didnt like what was known as "spooky space" or more descriptively; the space between the orbit path of an electron, and the nucleus of an atom.
Which brings me to my next point. Atoms, which we are undoubtedly made up of, are essentially empty! Now, were talking on a molecular scale here, only observable by the most powerful of microscopes, but what physicists noticed/discovered is that atoms are essentially empty spae. Another interesting characteristic of atoms is that they NEVER TOUCH, electron fields around atom nuclei repel eachother, even if the atoms are part of the some molecular structure, they are not touching, they NEVER touch eachother, they get REAL close, REAL CLOSE, like i said this is on a molecular level, measurable only by tables and scales most humans would never use throughout their entire lives.
Ok now im rambling.... its in the documentary
Did you know that your thought affects reality?
Did you know that Electrons are aware of themselves?
Did you know that your brain is processing 400,000,000,000 bits of information a second (thats four hundred BILLION) and that we are only consciously aware of 2000? ( two thousand )
Imagine if we as an entire race began working towards ONE common goal, WE COULD MOVE MOUNTAINS LITERALLY!
Here are a couple of excerpts from "What the Bleep"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlomn1Hc_VM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQe0oiaBssg This one is my favorite!!it has my favorite experiment in it! the double slit test!!!
"consciousness is free because there is no mathematical description of the subject, only objects can be described mathematically." love that quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWXJUNkkKj0
This one is the last 10 minutes of the video.. it goes into how reality is perception, and only when perception is altered can reality be altered
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpnlCo5APrE
This is my second favorite part, the part that backs my question, why dont we all work towards a common goal. FOCUS everything, every attention, every thought, to one common thing? even more backed by THIS experiment ----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB6-OY-c9rk
This is one thing ive never understood about the human race: We destroy ourselves continuously, fight endlessly, try to one up eachother..... WHY? More people have been killed in the name of god than for any other reason on this planet, which is why i cant relate myself to christianity as a whole. Doesnt the word "christian" literally translated mean "christ like"? did Jesus kill anyone in the name of his father? NO! HE DIDNT! (or at least thats the common belief, pure, holy, virgin, never sinned) Look im not denouncing anyones beliefs, i just find it hard to believe that he was conceived immaculately, lived 33 years (and as famous as he was for his prophetic visions) and STAYED a virgin, and NEVER sinned.... COME ON, fame changes people... good or bad. Another thing that didnt set well with me was going to church, I sit in silence while some guy on stage, that i know nothing about, preaches to me what he believes to be the correct interpretation of holy scripture (while its only HIS interp.) and how it should tie in to my life next week. wtf? how is that a path anyone would want to follow? being TOLD what to do your entire earthly life? Why not experience things for yourself? make your own conclusions, look inside yourself, instead of looking out at the rest of the world. Meditation (for me anyway) is the best form of "inner looking", not only do your discipline, muscle control, and thought processes become more controlled, but you begin to see whats really there, what reality really is. And that the power of thought is far greater than any of us know, and has the ability to change reality as we know it. LOL this is all explained in greater detail than i could ever give here in the RIU forums lol
Ok im ranting again, i apologize *deep breath*
OK back to this question: "This is one thing ive never understood about the human race: We destroy ourselves continuously, fight endlessly, try to one up eachother..... WHY?" its always been a hard set of facts for me to swallow, lemme tell ya. Even a a child i never understood why kids fought in school, or why girls had to gossip and spread rumors just to be more popular and in control of the school yard... why? To be perfectly honest, i dont know if we will ever know the answer to that question, or if we'll even come to some sort of median to settle differences, find common ground, and GROW from that. Thats how i settle quarrels in real life... No joke, i was a local rock show and stopped a fight like this. One was pissed cause the other accidently moshed into his girlfriend, and the other was mad cause the first guy used a racial slur to express his feelings about the accidental bump into his girlfriend. so i walked over to the dudes and told my GF to go check on the guy's gf, make sure she wasnt hurt or nothin. Long story short, i got both of their attentions and asked one question to both of them, "why did you guys come here tonight? both replied that they had friends in the one of the bands (different bands but still =D) i then followed with, " ok, so you guys are both here to support your friends right?" "Yes" then i said, "ok, the common ground is found, cmon guys, is it really worth fighting over? You're both here to enjoy music, and truthfully, your girl needs to back away from the "pit" if you don't want her getting hurt, shell be just 20 feet behind you at the bar, i promise." the guy smiled and said i was right, a smartass, but right. They shook hands and enjoyed the show TOGETHER. Ok, i think im done, again, i am sorry for the jumbled-ness of all this, lol i had to take in 20 pages of posts!!
Look, were all on this planet together, its time we act like it. Lets find the common ground, and grow from that, just like the babies that we all love and grow ourselves
I'd first like to say CHASE THE BASS where'd you go man? i said finally! another quantum enthusiast!
Stoney, LOL, DUDE YOU RAWK!
i share many of Stoney's views on life in regards to people and their own religion i.e. i dont care what religion you are, its your choice, just keep it out of work, school etc. Hey Stoney, has anyone ever told you that you're very left AND right brained?
Thats a lot of effin information to go through in one sitting..... after page 10 i started skimming to save time lol, blunt #2.5 is where im at right now after reading all that i have.... some of the posts made me laugh so hard that i nearly peed mahself! others made me feel like doing this
Anyway, my main point is that i cant believe that quantum theory/physics was only mentioned ONCE in 20 pages of posts. Have none of you seen the documentary film "What the Bleep: Down the Rabbit Hole"? (ok im not implying an "OMG i cant believe you have not seen it" attitude, its just a question
) If not, i recommend, nay, DARE you to watch it. I DARE you to open your mind to infinite possibilities, to get a perspective that is neither comforting or easy to fathom, to make an attempt at increasing the level of brain activity that you are aware of, to question the very fabric of reality and the universe as you know it. so take one of these and sit back a sec.This is Straight from Wikipedia under search: quantum physics
"Quantum mechanics is a set of principles underlying the most fundamental known description of all physical systems at the submicroscopic scale (at the atomic level). Notable among these principles are simultaneous wave-like and particle-like behavior of matter and radiation ("Waveparticle duality"), and the prediction of probabilities in situations where classical physics predicts certainties. Classical physics can be derived as a good approximation to quantum physics, typically in circumstances with large numbers of particles. Thus quantum phenomena are particularly relevant in systems whose dimensions are close to the atomic scale, such as molecules, atoms, electrons, protons and other subatomic particles. Exceptions exist for certain systems which exhibit quantum mechanical effects on macroscopic scale; superfluidity is one well-known example. Quantum theory provides accurate descriptions for many previously unexplained phenomena such as black body radiation and stable electron orbits. It has also given insight into the workings of many different biological systems, including smell receptors and protein structures." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_physics
That best explains in short the very broad spectrum of studied areas in quantum mechanics. They just say it better than i do lol.
I do need to say one thing before i continue to my OPINIONS and SELF DISCOVERIES: I have no problem with religion as a whole, do what you want, i dont care, just dont force it on me, as i dont force anything on you.
For so long scientists and physicists alike have been looking in the wrong direction, as have many of you posting on this thread, in my opinion. Right now the focus is on the grand scale of GOD and CREATION and EVOLUTION which are all good and all have their cooky aspects, that comes with this kind of territory and im sure MOST of you will agree with me on that (hopefully). When i say wrong direction i mean just that, were looking OUT instead of in... To the molecular level. We look at Einstein and see, wow, E=mc^2 / theory of relativity and all of that. Einstein HATED quantum theory, he didnt like what was known as "spooky space" or more descriptively; the space between the orbit path of an electron, and the nucleus of an atom.
Which brings me to my next point. Atoms, which we are undoubtedly made up of, are essentially empty! Now, were talking on a molecular scale here, only observable by the most powerful of microscopes, but what physicists noticed/discovered is that atoms are essentially empty spae. Another interesting characteristic of atoms is that they NEVER TOUCH, electron fields around atom nuclei repel eachother, even if the atoms are part of the some molecular structure, they are not touching, they NEVER touch eachother, they get REAL close, REAL CLOSE, like i said this is on a molecular level, measurable only by tables and scales most humans would never use throughout their entire lives.
Ok now im rambling.... its in the documentary
Did you know that your thought affects reality?
Did you know that Electrons are aware of themselves?
Did you know that your brain is processing 400,000,000,000 bits of information a second (thats four hundred BILLION) and that we are only consciously aware of 2000? ( two thousand )
Imagine if we as an entire race began working towards ONE common goal, WE COULD MOVE MOUNTAINS LITERALLY!
Here are a couple of excerpts from "What the Bleep"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlomn1Hc_VM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQe0oiaBssg This one is my favorite!!it has my favorite experiment in it! the double slit test!!!
"consciousness is free because there is no mathematical description of the subject, only objects can be described mathematically." love that quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWXJUNkkKj0
This one is the last 10 minutes of the video.. it goes into how reality is perception, and only when perception is altered can reality be altered
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpnlCo5APrE
This is my second favorite part, the part that backs my question, why dont we all work towards a common goal. FOCUS everything, every attention, every thought, to one common thing? even more backed by THIS experiment ----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB6-OY-c9rk
This is one thing ive never understood about the human race: We destroy ourselves continuously, fight endlessly, try to one up eachother..... WHY? More people have been killed in the name of god than for any other reason on this planet, which is why i cant relate myself to christianity as a whole. Doesnt the word "christian" literally translated mean "christ like"? did Jesus kill anyone in the name of his father? NO! HE DIDNT! (or at least thats the common belief, pure, holy, virgin
, never sinned) Look im not denouncing anyones beliefs, i just find it hard to believe that he was conceived immaculately, lived 33 years (and as famous as he was for his prophetic visions) and STAYED a virgin, and NEVER sinned.... COME ON, fame changes people... good or bad. Another thing that didnt set well with me was going to church, I sit in silence while some guy on stage, that i know nothing about, preaches to me what he believes to be the correct interpretation of holy scripture (while its only HIS interp.) and how it should tie in to my life next week. wtf? how is that a path anyone would want to follow? being TOLD what to do your entire earthly life? Why not experience things for yourself? make your own conclusions, look inside yourself, instead of looking out at the rest of the world. Meditation (for me anyway) is the best form of "inner looking", not only do your discipline, muscle control, and thought processes become more controlled, but you begin to see whats really there, what reality really is. And that the power of thought is far greater than any of us know, and has the ability to change reality as we know it. LOL this is all explained in greater detail than i could ever give here in the RIU forums lolOk im ranting again, i apologize *deep breath*
OK back to this question: "This is one thing ive never understood about the human race: We destroy ourselves continuously, fight endlessly, try to one up eachother..... WHY?" its always been a hard set of facts for me to swallow, lemme tell ya. Even a a child i never understood why kids fought in school, or why girls had to gossip and spread rumors just to be more popular and in control of the school yard... why? To be perfectly honest, i dont know if we will ever know the answer to that question, or if we'll even come to some sort of median to settle differences, find common ground, and GROW from that. Thats how i settle quarrels in real life... No joke, i was a local rock show and stopped a fight like this. One was pissed cause the other accidently moshed into his girlfriend, and the other was mad cause the first guy used a racial slur to express his feelings about the accidental bump into his girlfriend. so i walked over to the dudes and told my GF to go check on the guy's gf, make sure she wasnt hurt or nothin. Long story short, i got both of their attentions and asked one question to both of them, "why did you guys come here tonight? both replied that they had friends in the one of the bands (different bands but still =D) i then followed with, " ok, so you guys are both here to support your friends right?" "Yes" then i said, "ok, the common ground is found, cmon guys, is it really worth fighting over? You're both here to enjoy music, and truthfully, your girl needs to back away from the "pit" if you don't want her getting hurt, shell be just 20 feet behind you at the bar, i promise." the guy smiled and said i was right, a smartass, but right. They shook hands and enjoyed the show TOGETHER. Ok, i think im done, again, i am sorry for the jumbled-ness of all this, lol i had to take in 20 pages of posts!!
Look, were all on this planet together, its time we act like it. Lets find the common ground, and grow from that, just like the babies that we all love and grow ourselves
Stoney McFried
Well-Known Member
They told me something about the parent,adult, and child portions of the brain switching out really rapidly...I figured it just meant I was a nut.But thanks.
Stoney McFried
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Well, welcome to riu.And interesting post.I'll have to read it over again, because right now, nothing is sinking in,lol.
Bon3z
Active Member
Oh one more thing i found that was interesting that i thought would further "solidify" ( cause nothing is really solid ) my statement of reality only being perception, and that infinite possibilities are reality, only when we see something is it "really there"
do this test, i promise nothing bad will happen
http://www.blindspottest.com/
that test link was in the article here, read it, it will make you go, wtf?
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/188440/the_blind_spot_does_our_brain_see_things.html?cat=5
do this test, i promise nothing bad will happen
http://www.blindspottest.com/
that test link was in the article here, read it, it will make you go, wtf?
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/188440/the_blind_spot_does_our_brain_see_things.html?cat=5
CrackerJax
New Member
There's nothing TO sink in.....
Bon3z
Active Member
you found nothing of interest, not one thing?There's nothing TO sink in.....
CrackerJax
New Member
nothing cohesive ...no.
Then again, you've said nothing new for me. Not your fault, but I have walked down that road a long time ago.
Then again, you've said nothing new for me. Not your fault, but I have walked down that road a long time ago.
Bon3z
Active Member
ok, fair enough. You've heard everything that i said, but how is what i said not cohesive? i may be wrong, but i thought to cohere meant to be united, or stuck together, like in a mass of some sort... i could be wrong... but if im right, i then, dont follow what you mean.
edit : If youre talking aesthetically, i think i understand, and i did apologize for the jumbled-ness in the beginning of my post. Ya, i can understand how my post AS IS wouldn't logically cohere...
its all good! trust me, no ill will or nothing, just not following you is all =/
Bon3z
Active Member
ya i thought there had to be someone reading this thread that could find some way or another to relate to the video (and those are just PIECES)... lol for me it was one of those things that just shook my brain about so much that i had to watch it 4 more times. i couldn't get enough of it at first lol. and youre welcome.
anyone else think this is a no no picture circle cut out?
some see an exclamation mark,i see something else...
cbtwohundread
Well-Known Member
u apply science to everything ure lost bee serious wat is science...its "smart" people looking at things thats been here simple little things birds,butterflys,etc. forever ,and they scrutinize it....when i look at things i look at it in the simplest fashion ,,,people stopped accepting the simple things and thats wat science is to me i dont look at its benifits before i look at its destruction....people dont overstand that machines are invading our space....science is just a excuse for wanting to play god,,,u want to fly to outerspace to do this and that....u dont even know wats at the bootom of our sea...u dont know how to fix our problems u caused...they can build a million cars cant feed a million hungry people?they destroy wat they cant make then replace it with metal...and thats the time u live in....im done now with this subject its now boring i
CrackerJax
New Member
yes, move on to the crayon section....
cbtwohundread
Well-Known Member
lol cracker jax do u admire i u seem to always bee under my foot,,