CRISPR CAS9!!!

CannaOnerStar

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Why is it all of a sudden a matter of days?

Anyways i dont think they will replace organic cannabis, ever. But will surely become part of the markets, especially in concentrates where i would assume it matters less to most users than with buds.

Personally i dont want any of this monsato crap or other genetically modified weed.

That is THE fastest way to give up weed completely to large corporation who only care about money. No one else but licenced growers would be able to grow these strains and they would cost hella lot of money. And the markets would be pushed to direction where only these strains are good enough to make money. Unless people find value in organic enough to pay potentially multiple times the price.

This is common with other plants also. For example bananas are all from single plant, licensed by one corporation who owns it.

Do you guys want this to happen to weed also?

This whole genetic modification of weed is corporatists taking over the weed markets.
 
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moonman33

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Idk what to make of this guys. I need feedback. Are u guys with it? Does it not eliminate us breeders completely?? Its only a matter of days now before crispr technology strains take over
Will Crispr people take over is my concern not the seeds :o

I think in marijuana world, especially as it gets commercialized... This stuff will be like Budwiser and your seeds will be the rad local brewery that everyone in the area supports. I think there will be room for both.
 

CannaOnerStar

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Man.... I can't even figure out odor control...... :wall:
:D Get a activated carbon filter and an inline fan that sucks the air through it and pushes it outside of tent and keep some underpressure inside the tent. If the inline fan is not powerful enough, it cant creater enough under pressure inside the tent and without this the smells that to leak from air gaps.
 

nunyabidness420

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:D Get a activated carbon filter and an inline fan that sucks the air through it and pushes it outside of tent and keep some underpressure inside the tent. If the inline fan is not powerful enough, it cant creater enough under pressure inside the tent and without this the smells that to leak from air gaps.
Na screw carbon. Well... maybe as a backup.
Too many oh shit moments when some humidity spikes clogged them up.
Even when they're working you can still smell it a little...
I may be paranoid but I swear they're tracking carbon filters.
 

Horselover fat

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Idk what to make of this guys. I need feedback. Are u guys with it? Does it not eliminate us breeders completely?? Its only a matter of days now before crispr technology strains take over
Ha, I'd say someone using gene editing to produce a strain is a breeder. One that has another tool at their hands.
 

DrKiz

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Idk what to make of this guys. I need feedback. Are u guys with it? Does it not eliminate us breeders completely?? Its only a matter of days now before crispr technology strains take over
One of the reasons I'm hoarding old school genetics. In a few years you won't know what's been tampered with.
 

JonCreighton

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few years ago i took part in a study thru rutgrs to refind the Jersey tomatoe... appartently new jersey had the best tomatoes in the world in the 50s.... but by 2000 no one had the genome anymore... tase wasnt important anymore... disease resisitance.. transportability... how to tomatoe looks... all of these took precent for the money people and taste got pushed ddown to i think they said 7th in importance... luckily cambels soups had a ton of seeds from the 50s when they made their original recipe and the study was able to use those seeds to try and refind the jersey tomatoe...

i know its not an analog but its worth noting... 50 years or modifing tomatoes and they actually fucked them up..
 

CannaOnerStar

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few years ago i took part in a study thru rutgrs to refind the Jersey tomatoe... appartently new jersey had the best tomatoes in the world in the 50s.... but by 2000 no one had the genome anymore... tase wasnt important anymore... disease resisitance.. transportability... how to tomatoe looks... all of these took precent for the money people and taste got pushed ddown to i think they said 7th in importance... luckily cambels soups had a ton of seeds from the 50s when they made their original recipe and the study was able to use those seeds to try and refind the jersey tomatoe...

i know its not an analog but its worth noting... 50 years or modifing tomatoes and they actually fucked them up..
I think the idea with genetically modifying weed would be to make "trich the size of baseball" or something along those lines. Also once we figure out more about the genes, we could for example make plants that produce not only huge amounts of resin, but also some specific cannabinoids, like THCV and what ever unknown cannabinoids there are. They could then be mixed at different ratios for extracts if they would not care to make plants with different ratios.

Or they could for example not only make plants that produce tons of THC, but also modify specific terpene profiles. Or perhaps just make plants for insane terp production with little to no THC and use that in extracts for flavour.

Like i said i dont think this will replace all weed. Some people will want organic non GMO weed always im sure, but i dont think people who want as powerful extracts as possible care too much, because if done correctly the end product would be the same, but the crispr GMO plants will be so much more productive that normal weed does not have a chance in resin markets, except maybe in some small niche thing.

I mean think about how the markets will change when you can get extremely powerful extracts for third the price compared to some pretty good 20-25% THC organic weed.

The fucked up thing is that then those only plants that are not for some niche smokers are licenced to some large corporations that then start to control the whole markets as much as possible and trying to create monololies to these crisp strains. For this sort of stuff im sure they could get a full patent on the strain and could control all sales of this sort of weed, in a way that only licensed farmers can sell this and only big operations could afford to buy those cuttings. Hell they could most likely even make a genetic code for the plants that is individual to all licensed growers so that they could sue them if some cuttings moved to black markets.

I hope they dont figure out this crispr thing too much before humanity gains some more common sense and starts to also think about the consequences of things other than just how much money it makes. Which sadly does not seem to be coming anytime soon, as shown by the masses of trumptards and other similar idiots who either worship money or are brainwashed to act in favour of people who worship money and try to funnel more of it to the top where they live and collect profits, disregarding common good and ethics.
 

JonCreighton

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I think the idea with genetically modifying weed would be to make "trich the size of baseball" or something along those lines. Also once we figure out more about the genes, we could for example make plants that produce not only huge amounts of resin, but also some specific cannabinoids, like THCV and what ever unknown cannabinoids there are. They could then be mixed at different ratios for extracts if they would not care to make plants with different ratios.

Or they could for example not only make plants that produce tons of THC, but also modify specific terpene profiles. Or perhaps just make plants for insane terp production with little to no THC and use that in extracts for flavour.

Like i said i dont think this will replace all weed. Some people will want organic non GMO weed always im sure, but i dont think people who want as powerful extracts as possible care too much, because if done correctly the end product would be the same, but the crispr GMO plants will be so much more productive that normal weed does not have a chance in resin markets, except maybe in some small niche thing.

I mean think about how the markets will change when you can get extremely powerful extracts for third the price compared to some pretty good 20-25% THC organic weed.

The fucked up thing is that then those only plants that are not for some niche smokers are licenced to some large corporations that then start to control the whole markets as much as possible and trying to create monololies to these crisp strains. For this sort of stuff im sure they could get a full patent on the strain and could control all sales of this sort of weed, in a way that only licensed farmers can sell this and only big operations could afford to buy those cuttings. Hell they could most likely even make a genetic code for the plants that is individual to all licensed growers so that they could sue them if some cuttings moved to black markets.

I hope they dont figure out this crispr thing too much before humanity gains some more common sense and starts to also think about the consequences of things other than just how much money it makes. Which sadly does not seem to be coming anytime soon, as shown by the masses of trumptards and other similar idiots who either worship money or are brainwashed to act in favour of people who worship money and try to funnel more of it to the top where they live and collect profits, disregarding common good and ethics.
everything you say makes sense to me... besides the trump thing idk y u had to toss that in... and weed might go that way because it is a different thing right.. its more a medication than a vegetable anyway... but it seems w the tomato thing the market steered commercial operations a different way... even if u were a big guy tomatoe maker at the time and you want to modify the best quality tomato.. you cant.. youd be drivin out financially by the guys focused on stability i guess...

im about 50 50 on how this is going to go... i can imagine myself tossing out tomatoe seeds from 1950 like .. there modifing genes now these things are going to be useless... seeds that in 2010 would be value able or atleast indangered...
 

CannaOnerStar

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besides the trump thing idk y u had to toss that in...
Trump represents the ultimate purest form of capitalism, and thats the problem with this sort of stuff; profits dictating what the industry does. You see this leads to situation where the biggest players can take over the whole markets, leading to the whole profits being funnelled to the very top of the top of worlds investors. Them demanding more and more profits is what leads to profits dictating the markets in unhealthy ways. Especially considering that regular weed would not have any chance to compete in big markets to crispr weed, it would be easy for them to push all other players to fight for some small niche markets. Then when you think about how the cannabis industry is growing, and imagine all those folks being pushed to little corner trying to get at least some customers and making more profits in that niche field. Now when you look at this niche market, it would not have much room for folks, but likely would be dominatd by few companies(out of maybe like half being the same who make crispr weed) and rest would be left for some small organic connoisseur growers trying to get by in the over saturated markets d9ominated by one or two big companies. Look at how much money there is going on in cannabis industry, its only natural that some with the resources will attempt this with crispr weed and maybe after a while someone else also succeeds, but this sort of high level industry is pretty nasty and they often play out other players or just buy them out, pushing all new development in the crispr weed markets again back to the pockets of one or few companies.
 
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