Darden tests limiting worker hours as health-care changes loom

rollinbud

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In an experiment apparently aimed at keeping down the cost of health-care reform, Orlando-basedDarden Restaurants has stopped offering full-time schedules to many hourly workers in at least a few Olive Gardens, Red Lobsters and LongHorn Steakhouses.
Darden said the test is taking place in "a select number" of restaurants in four markets, including Central Florida, but would not give details. The company said there has been no decision made about expanding it.
In an emailed statement, Darden said staffing changes are "just one of the many things we are evaluating to help us address the cost implications health care reform will have on our business. There are still many unanswered questions regarding the health care regulations and we simply do not have enough information to make any decisions at this time."
Analysts say many other companies, including the White Castle hamburger chain, are considering employing fewer full-timers because of key features of the Affordable Care Act scheduled togo into effect in 2014. Under that law,large companies must provide affordable health insurance to employees working an average of at least 30 hours per week.
If they do not, the companies can face fines of up to $3,000 for each employee who then turns to an exchange — an online marketplace — for insurance.

"I think a lot of those employers, especially restaurants, are just going to ensure nobody gets scheduled more than 30 hours a week," said Matthew Snook, partner with human-resources consulting company Mercer.
Darden said its goal at the test restaurants is to keep employees at 28 hours a week.
Analysts said limiting hours could pose new challenges, including higher turnover and less-qualified workers.
"It's a real problem for restaurants," said Howard Penney, a restaurant analyst and managing director for Hedgeye Risk Management.
Darden, the world's largest casual-dining company and one of the nation's 30 largest employers, said it offers health insurance to all its approximately 185,000 employees. Many are offered a limited-benefit plan. That type of coverage is being phased out under health-care changes, which will ban annual limits for most plans.
About 25 percent of Darden workers are full time, meaning they work more than 30 hours a week. Though employees say Darden already offers traditional health insurance to full-timers, Janney Capital Markets analyst Mark Kalinowski said the cost of providing that could become higher for Darden under the Affordable Care Act. Because that law requires everyone to have health insurance, more workers will likely choose its coverage, Kalinowski said.
"Even a modest jump up in the amount of employees that decide they want the insurance you're offering could have a meaningful impact on your bottom line," he said.
Under the system Darden is testing, employees are to be scheduled for no more than 28 hours each week. They can run over that if things get busy, but Darden acknowledged they are not supposed to exceed 30 hours.
At a new Olive Garden in Stillwater, Okla., former busboy Keaton Hasty said employees were routinely limited to 29 1/2 hours.
"It was 29 1/2, and they'd kick you out," said Hasty, a college student who now works at a pharmacy. "They'd always print off a little slip every day and say who was getting close."
And Michael Walker said when he applied for a job at a new Olive Garden in Hammond, La., he was told that except for a few "key training positions," only part-time jobs were available for hourly workers.
"Without having full health care … I don't see that as an option," Walker said. He decided to stick with his current job at another restaurant.
Darden told analysts last year it would consider changing its mix of part-time and full-time employees to reduce costs.
Darden has been aggressively keeping labor costs down. It has cut bartenders' pay and required servers to share tips with them. It also has eliminated busboy positions at Red Lobster and reduced the number of servers working each shift at that chain.
Labor costs as a percentage of sales have dropped steadily from 33.1 percent in fiscal 2010 to 30.8 percent in the most recent quarter.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/os-darden-part-time-workers-20121007,0,1505128.story
 

Carne Seca

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Meanwhile, Darden Restaurants CEO and top management continue to get pay increases. The most recent by 10%. The top CEO of Darden had an earnings package of 8.5 million. Other compensation included stock awards and personal benefits including use of company aircraft, executive physicals and financial counseling reimbursement. Yeah, keep cutting benefits and work hours for the regular employees. Those CEO's need all the money they can get their grubby little hands on.
 

canndo

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That's right, if that damn government would keep it's nose out of businesses, those businesses would treat their employees like kings, KINGS I tell you.
 

FreedomWorks

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That's right, if that damn government would keep it's nose out of businesses, those businesses would treat their employees like kings, KINGS I tell you.
Only the ones who perform well. If you make the company money they will work hard to keep you around. The employees that perform like crap, get treated like crap. Sounds fair to me. Your socialist propaganda isn't going to work like in 2008.
 

althor

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Meanwhile, Darden Restaurants CEO and top management continue to get pay increases. The most recent by 10%. The top CEO of Darden had an earnings package of 8.5 million. Other compensation included stock awards and personal benefits including use of company aircraft, executive physicals and financial counseling reimbursement. Yeah, keep cutting benefits and work hours for the regular employees. Those CEO's need all the money they can get their grubby little hands on.

For some reason the liberal side has such a hard time seeing this.
Utopia philosophies will only work in an utopia society.
As long as man (corrupt) is involved in the process, none of their ideas are practical.

Rich people are going to stay rich. If you make them PAY!!!!! they take it out of those under them!!!!!

I have already told my employees, the day I am forced to pay for healthcare for them, they are all laid off. I dont have the extra income to pay an extra freaking penny, I need to be laying off already but I hate to not work someone if I can possibly find a way.
 

canndo

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Only the ones who perform well. If you make the company money they will work hard to keep you around. The employees that perform like crap, get treated like crap. Sounds fair to me. Your socialist propaganda isn't going to work like in 2008.

You place far too much faith in the current system of free enterprise sir. Far too much. I have seen highly productive employees let go because their age causes company group health insurance premiums to rise. I have seen good employees let go due to a reduction in work force while lesser execs get bonuses for "saving" the company money in so doing. I have seen talented engineers let go so that the quarterlies look good for the stock holders.


Corporate america is not the meritocracy you claim - by far.
 

ginwilly

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Corporate america is not the meritocracy you claim - by far.
That's because of corporatism, not capitalism. You can blame the producers or you can blame the elected public officials whose job it is protect my freedoms and prefer corporate welfare and their own pocket instead. Barbara Boxer and Dick Cheney are my shining examples.
 

canndo

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For some reason the liberal side has such a hard time seeing this.
Utopia philosophies will only work in an utopia society.
As long as man (corrupt) is involved in the process, none of their ideas are practical.

Rich people are going to stay rich. If you make them PAY!!!!! they take it out of those under them!!!!!

I have already told my employees, the day I am forced to pay for healthcare for them, they are all laid off. I dont have the extra income to pay an extra freaking penny, I need to be laying off already but I hate to not work someone if I can possibly find a way.
If the rich stay rich at all cost, then we should leave them alone, right? The poor will perpetualy game the welfare system, and so why should we attempt to correct that?

You have told your employees that you will lay them all off. You did a through cost analysis of this already and find that you will no longer effect a profit right? you will close down not because you hate Obama, not because you resent being told what to do but because your business acumen is insufficent to enable you to turn a profit competing with others in your field who are burdened with the exact same requirement you are.

Seems to me that you are taking your angst and inabilities out on your workers and they might be better off working for someone more creative and ultimately more profitable both to himself and his employees.
 

FreedomWorks

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You place far too much faith in the current system of free enterprise sir. Far too much. I have seen highly productive employees let go because their age causes company group health insurance premiums to rise. I have seen good employees let go due to a reduction in work force while lesser execs get bonuses for "saving" the company money in so doing. I have seen talented engineers let go so that the quarterlies look good for the stock holders.


Corporate america is not the meritocracy you claim - by far.
My boss is not about to let me go anywhere. If somebody offered me more money, he'd match it. Also my boss and I are good friends. Capitalism is not so bad. Socialism breeds sub par performance and ultimately poverty
 

althor

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If the rich stay rich at all cost, then we should leave them alone, right? The poor will perpetualy game the welfare system, and so why should we attempt to correct that?

You have told your employees that you will lay them all off. You did a through cost analysis of this already and find that you will no longer effect a profit right? you will close down not because you hate Obama, not because you resent being told what to do but because your business acumen is insufficent to enable you to turn a profit competing with others in your field who are burdened with the exact same requirement you are.

Seems to me that you are taking your angst and inabilities out on your workers and they might be better off working for someone more creative and ultimately more profitable both to himself and his employees.
Bottom line is, I simply could not afford it. I pay them absolutely as much as I can and still stay in business. I happen to not be one of the "greedy" people. But there is absolutely no way I can add on to what I already pay them. I will close down shop and start growing full time. I will be just fine, they will find something else and be just fine as well. Either way, I cannot pay for 4 people's insurance. Not going to happen.

Also, when you take out my extra expenses I dont make much more than my employees. Amazing how we can have the same gross at the end of the year, they get money back, I pay thousands. How the hell does that work out?
 

canndo

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That's because of corporatism, not capitalism. You can blame the producers or you can blame the elected public officials whose job it is protect my freedoms and prefer corporate welfare and their own pocket instead. Barbara Boxer and Dick Cheney are my shining examples.

Nor did I say capitalism but corporate america. Still, even capitalism lends itself to abuse from the triangle shirtwaste factory to Enron to this Citibank/BofA scandal. As I said somewhere else today, I want a government that is big enough to counter the tyranny of corporations and no larger.


I don't like Ms. Boxer and she does not like me but that is another story.
 

canndo

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My boss is not about to let me go anywhere. If somebody offered me more money, he'd match it. Also my boss and I are good friends. Capitalism is not so bad. Socialism breeds sub par performance and ultimately poverty
It is nice that you and your boss are friends. It is nice that you don't stick him for a raise, knowing as you do that you are essential to his operation but that has little to do with what happens so often in corporate america that is contrary to what you claim - that merit is rewarded all the time and sloth is not.
 

canndo

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Bottom line is, I simply could not afford it. I pay them absolutely as much as I can and still stay in business. I happen to not be one of the "greedy" people. But there is absolutely no way I can add on to what I already pay them. I will close down shop and start growing full time. I will be just fine, they will find something else and be just fine as well. Either way, I cannot pay for 4 people's insurance. Not going to happen.

Also, when you take out my extra expenses I dont make much more than my employees. Amazing how we can have the same gross at the end of the year, they get money back, I pay thousands. How the hell does that work out?

When I find that I make little more than my employees, I raise my rates or prices, I encourage them to do more, I expand my market share, I look to the future, I innovate, I nurture, I plan, I improvise - that is the essence of business. Yes it is sad sometimes to discover that after the taxes have been paid and the employees wages satisfied that we don't get as much as we thought, when a good month is actually not so good. some simply give up in the face of that. Some give up in the face of new challenges as well. Others do not and some of those others ultimately thrive.

That is business, as I said, the burden is not just on you but all of your competition as well, if they stay in business after the health care law is enacted, then they will have been doing something you are either unwilling or unable to do.

That is simply a fact.
 

FreedomWorks

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It is nice that you and your boss are friends. It is nice that you don't stick him for a raise, knowing as you do that you are essential to his operation but that has little to do with what happens so often in corporate america that is contrary to what you claim - that merit is rewarded all the time and sloth is not.

If I didn't like my boss I'd go get a new job working for somebody else. Maybe even go into business for myself. People have choices, and the decisions they make will determine their future. Does everything work out perfect all the time like some kind of utopia? Of course not.
My point is, capitalism is the closest thing to a free market system that the modern world has ever seen. Socialism and economic nationalism are not the answer.
 

canndo

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If I didn't like my boss I'd go get a new job working for somebody else. Maybe even go into business for myself. People have choices, and the decisions they make will determine their future. Does everything work out perfect all the time like some kind of utopia? Of course not.
My point is, capitalism is the closest thing to a free market system that the modern world has ever seen. Socialism and economic nationalism are not the answer.

What you seem to fail to grasp is that capitalism you laud is and should be tempered by a strong government. Unfettered capitalism is tyranny and the reason you can't see that is because you live and breath in a country where capitalism is reigned in from it's abusive practices. Yet in your mind it is that very government that protects you from a nothing wage, a 60 hour work week, child labor, dangerous working conditions and dangerous products is the enemy and without it, why everything would be a wonderful dream.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
That's because of corporatism, not capitalism. You can blame the producers or you can blame the elected public officials whose job it is protect my freedoms and prefer corporate welfare and their own pocket instead. Barbara Boxer and Dick Cheney are my shining examples.
Capitalism, left unchecked, breeds corporatism. We humans are empire builders. cn
 

FreedomWorks

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What you seem to fail to grasp is that capitalism you laud is and should be tempered by a strong government. Unfettered capitalism is tyranny and the reason you can't see that is because you live and breath in a country where capitalism is reigned in from it's abusive practices. Yet in your mind it is that very government that protects you from a nothing wage, a 60 hour work week, child labor, dangerous working conditions and dangerous products is the enemy and without it, why everything would be a wonderful dream.

You're giving Obama way too much credit. Why do democrats always act like republicans and conservatives, and anybody who is not a drone. Why do you act like we are against ALL regulation? Why do you need to spit out 80,000 pages of new regulations every year. When does it stop? Never, thats when. The "strong" government you embrace will only continue to sieze more and more power.

Somebody takes away your iphone, you start freaking out. Somebody takes away your liberty, you vote for them.
 

canndo

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You're giving Obama way too much credit. Why do democrats always act like republicans and conservatives, and anybody who is not a drone. Why do you act like we are against ALL regulation? Why do you need to spit out 80,000 pages of new regulations every year. When does it stop? Never, thats when. The "strong" government you embrace will only continue to sieze more and more power.

Somebody takes away your iphone, you start freaking out. Somebody takes away your liberty, you vote for them.

there may be too much regulation but I would rather that than too little. I am not talking about Obama, I am talking about government. When I talk to conservatives about pollution they say "we aren't for pollution, who do you think we are?" but when I ask them what they are willing to give up or what they are willing to pay to live in a less polluted world they have no answer - their world is words alone, they can say anything they like but it is what they do or refuse to do that tells the tale. One cannot judge regulation simply by the weight of the pages. If a situation needs 80,000 pages of regulation then that is what it needs and the number of pages makes no difference at all, except to those who measure such things in.... pages.

When does it stop? you are correct, it never stops or at least it will never stop so long as society progresses and more dangers or abuses make themselves known. Or do you want to stop the popular notion of "progress" for with all progress comes abuse and with all abuse should come regulation.

Where does it say that I am voting for the removal of my liberty? I am very well aware of all the facets of my liberties and I try my best to keep them. What you seem to fail to understand is that big business is in the habit of tyranny.


Lets you mention salt or sugar or buckets of soda - those sir, are not liberties, you have been made to believe that consumer choice is a liberty - it is not.
 

FreedomWorks

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there may be too much regulation but I would rather that than too little. I am not talking about Obama, I am talking about government. When I talk to conservatives about pollution they say "we aren't for pollution, who do you think we are?" but when I ask them what they are willing to give up or what they are willing to pay to live in a less polluted world they have no answer - their world is words alone, they can say anything they like but it is what they do or refuse to do that tells the tale. One cannot judge regulation simply by the weight of the pages. If a situation needs 80,000 pages of regulation then that is what it needs and the number of pages makes no difference at all, except to those who measure such things in.... pages.

When does it stop? you are correct, it never stops or at least it will never stop so long as society progresses and more dangers or abuses make themselves known. Or do you want to stop the popular notion of "progress" for with all progress comes abuse and with all abuse should come regulation.

Where does it say that I am voting for the removal of my liberty? I am very well aware of all the facets of my liberties and I try my best to keep them. What you seem to fail to understand is that big business is in the habit of tyranny.


Lets you mention salt or sugar or buckets of soda - those sir, are not liberties, you have been made to believe that consumer choice is a liberty - it is not.
You are SO far too the left. If this is what you want. More government regulation. Then go live in a state where theres no jobs, and spending is out of control. But why do we need to bring down all 50 states? Why do we ALL need to live in your regulated world? Most people don't want more and more regulation. Most people would agree we could use a little less. I'd start a thread and do a poll, but Uncle Buck would just fuck everything up.
 
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