Dave's 3rd Grow: Pineapple Chunk in DWC w/fogger

daveroller

daveroller

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lordjin said:
Growth looking really healthy. Nice work.
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Mineralz said:
Looks great Dave! Your new growth looks awesome ;)
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Thanks guys!

I took a chance that maybe I was wrong about the nute level being too high. So I raised it up higher than I had it originally. I think that maybe this particular strain of cannabis needs a lot more than others. Anyway, she's looking a lot better now. It also helped her appearance that I trimmed off a lot of damaged leaves. She was due for a trim anyway probably. Better air flow now.

Anyway, I watched her very carefully for a few days and nursed her with TLC like a sick baby. The cold weather we're having helps, too. The air temp in the cabinet is now around 69°.
 
lordjin

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daveroller said:
Thanks guys!

I took a chance that maybe I was wrong about the nute level being too high. So I raised it up higher than I had it originally. I think that maybe this particular strain of cannabis needs a lot more than others. Anyway, she's looking a lot better now. It also helped her appearance that I trimmed off a lot of damaged leaves. She was due for a trim anyway probably. Better air flow now.

Anyway, I watched her very carefully for a few days and nursed her with TLC like a sick baby. The cold weather we're having helps, too. The air temp in the cabinet is now around 69°.
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I'm feeding more heavily this time too. This shit is unpredictable sometimes, huh?
 
daveroller

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Just a few pics from yesterday.

Here are probably the worst leaves that I hadn't cut off yet:


Here's a closeup of the new growth:


And here's the whole plant:


I'm trying to keep the nute concentration in the 950 ppm ballpark. I need to add a gallon of water here and there to keep it from going over 1000 ppm, but just need to keep tabs on it closely.
 
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ppm:...965
pH:...5.55

Turned the whole res around today so I can pay more attention to the other side of the plant for a while. Also tied a third branch to train it to grow sideways and let more light shine into the bush.

 
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lordjin said:
I'm feeding more heavily this time too. This shit is unpredictable sometimes, huh?
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I just discovered that unpredictability. Luckily, it's a weed and it really bounced back fast. Quality nutes help, too.

How do you know when your nute level is right or wrong? Just by watching the plant? Or do you monitor changes in ppm and somehow figure it out from that?
 
Mineralz

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daveroller said:
I just discovered that unpredictability. Luckily, it's a weed and it really bounced back fast. Quality nutes help, too.

How do you know when your nute level is right or wrong? Just by watching the plant? Or do you monitor changes in ppm and somehow figure it out from that?
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Supz Dave. I think I have an answer for your question so lemme try to word it out ;) Basically, every strain of plant will react differently to dosages of nutes. Some like it hot and heavy while others enjoy the softer side of life. The first signs of TOO MUCH NUTES include yellowing tips/leaf curl/etc. The first signs I usually notice when you have TOO LITTLE NUTES is droopiness of leaves/brown spots on foliage due to nitrogen deficiency/etc. Like I said before though, EVERY strain reacts differently. Now to the "scientific" aspect of the above. When using a PPM meter (golden btw) take the reading when you do a rez change and jot it down somewhere or remember it. I have 200 ppmz of dissolved solids in my tap water SO THEREFORE when I mix nutes I take the number I get and subtract 200 to get my base nute ppmz. With that being said, your plant will drink like a beast during lights on, and grow and shit-ton during lights off. Basically, at least 24 hours later check your water again ( I stir up my reservoir if possible to make sure everything is mixed up) and see if the number dropped or stayed the same. If the number dropped then obviously your plant is eating and the only thing you wouldnt know is how long it would take to eat the whole bucket because some days they eat more than others. EVERY TIME YOUR PLANT EATS NUTRIENTS YOUR PH WILL GO UP. IF YOUR PH GOES DOWN AND YOUR PPMZ STAY THE SAME OR CLOSE TO THEN YOU MAY HAVE TOO MUCH NUTES AND NEED TO DILUTE IT WITH PH'D WATER ONLY. Sorry for the caps, but I just wanted to make sure you saw it lulz. When nutez are in your water it makes the solution slightly acidic, which is the way plants like it, and therefore when they eat and those nutes disappear it brings your water CLOSER to alkaline or NEUTRAL. The way I tell how my girlz like my feeding schedule is to watch my PH levels in accordance with PPM levels. If your PH goes up GRADUALLY and your PPMz drop gradually then that's a good mix and you should stick with it. No sense in adding more nutrients than your plant can eat because 1) That shit's not cheap 2) LESS IS MORE IN DWC 3) Who the hell wants to waste perfectly good nutes?? lulz So as an answer to your ?, it's a combo of BOTH watching your plant and monitoring the numbers. You dont have to be uber-jumpy about anything and I caution you not to do so. Most of the difficulty in growing is just knowing when to leave em the hell alone haha. Pretty hard to do though when you have all that pretty green and the aromas mixed in with it tho eh? Hope this helps you man. I'm always around so if I can explain any better just holla :D

Oh yea your girl grows like my BL pheno :D Stretchy and solid limbs, which later yielded MASSIVE colas! I tied mine down sideways just like you did and damn was it gorgeous 8 weeks later...good job man and keep her comin!!
 
daveroller

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rollandtoke said:
Looks good dave, will be keeping track of this as that looks like a great intro to hydro for me to try.
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Yeah, it's a pretty simple system. This is only my third attempt at growing myself, so I'm still a newb. Built my cabinet about a year ago.

Anyway, welcome aboard.
 
daveroller

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Mineralz said:
Supz Dave. I think I have an answer for your question so lemme try to word it out ;) Basically, every strain of plant will react differently to dosages of nutes. Some like it hot and heavy while others enjoy the softer side of life. The first signs of TOO MUCH NUTES include yellowing tips/leaf curl/etc. The first signs I usually notice when you have TOO LITTLE NUTES is droopiness of leaves/brown spots on foliage due to nitrogen deficiency/etc. Like I said before though, EVERY strain reacts differently. Now to the "scientific" aspect of the above. When using a PPM meter (golden btw) take the reading when you do a rez change and jot it down somewhere or remember it. I have 200 ppmz of dissolved solids in my tap water SO THEREFORE when I mix nutes I take the number I get and subtract 200 to get my base nute ppmz. With that being said, your plant will drink like a beast during lights on, and grow and shit-ton during lights off. Basically, at least 24 hours later check your water again ( I stir up my reservoir if possible to make sure everything is mixed up) and see if the number dropped or stayed the same. If the number dropped then obviously your plant is eating and the only thing you wouldnt know is how long it would take to eat the whole bucket because some days they eat more than others. EVERY TIME YOUR PLANT EATS NUTRIENTS YOUR PH WILL GO UP. IF YOUR PH GOES DOWN AND YOUR PPMZ STAY THE SAME OR CLOSE TO THEN YOU MAY HAVE TOO MUCH NUTES AND NEED TO DILUTE IT WITH PH'D WATER ONLY. Sorry for the caps, but I just wanted to make sure you saw it lulz. When nutez are in your water it makes the solution slightly acidic, which is the way plants like it, and therefore when they eat and those nutes disappear it brings your water CLOSER to alkaline or NEUTRAL. The way I tell how my girlz like my feeding schedule is to watch my PH levels in accordance with PPM levels. If your PH goes up GRADUALLY and your PPMz drop gradually then that's a good mix and you should stick with it. No sense in adding more nutrients than your plant can eat because 1) That shit's not cheap 2) LESS IS MORE IN DWC 3) Who the hell wants to waste perfectly good nutes?? lulz So as an answer to your ?, it's a combo of BOTH watching your plant and monitoring the numbers. You dont have to be uber-jumpy about anything and I caution you not to do so. Most of the difficulty in growing is just knowing when to leave em the hell alone haha. Pretty hard to do though when you have all that pretty green and the aromas mixed in with it tho eh? Hope this helps you man. I'm always around so if I can explain any better just holla :D

Oh yea your girl grows like my BL pheno :D Stretchy and solid limbs, which later yielded MASSIVE colas! I tied mine down sideways just like you did and damn was it gorgeous 8 weeks later...good job man and keep her comin!!
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That's really valuable information. I really appreciate your taking the time to post it all for me. I hope that I get massive colas like you get.
 
lordjin

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daveroller said:
I just discovered that unpredictability. Luckily, it's a weed and it really bounced back fast. Quality nutes help, too.

How do you know when your nute level is right or wrong? Just by watching the plant? Or do you monitor changes in ppm and somehow figure it out from that?
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Though you don't have as much experience as others here, you ask some of the best questions.

Yes, much of it is simply visual observation, but visuals are paired with ph indicators that tell me how to dial the ppm. If the plants are growing rapidly and the ph is falling, I raise the nute a bit and the ph stabilizes. At first introduction of fresh nute after water change ph rises, then falls, I raise ppm, stabilizes, starts falling again, and then it's time for the water change, and the process repeats itself every week... exactly like that. The ph moves, but since it does it so predictably every week, it can be looked upon as a kind of stability.
 
daveroller

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lordjin said:
Though you don't have as much experience as others here, you ask some of the best questions.

Yes, much of it is simply visual observation, but visuals are paired with ph indicators that tell me how to dial the ppm. If the plants are growing rapidly and the ph is falling, I raise the nute a bit and the ph stabilizes. At first introduction of fresh nute after water change ph rises, then falls, I raise ppm, stabilizes, starts falling again, and then it's time for the water change, and the process repeats itself every week... exactly like that. The ph moves, but since it does it so predictably every week, it can be looked upon as a kind of stability.
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I don't think the question was nearly as good as both of the answers I got. I'll start to watch for that pattern in the pH level. Thanks Jin.
 
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Raised up the lights today and added 2 more huge CFL's (2700° each):





Welcome to the jungle:



Still waiting for flowers, but she's looking good.



pH:.....5.73
ppm:...1070

ppm's a bit high, but she's drinking it in. Only saw a few burn spots. The rest looks really healthy to me.
 
lordjin

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daveroller said:
I don't think the question was nearly as good as both of the answers I got. I'll start to watch for that pattern in the pH level. Thanks Jin.
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Bear in mind, though, my res is unusually active, so you may not see the same patterns as me.

And it does look healthy. Nicely done.
 
daveroller

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lordjin said:
Bear in mind, though, my res is unusually active, so you may not see the same patterns as me.

And it does look healthy. Nicely done.
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Thanks Jin. That means a lot coming from a super grower like yourself.

I don't have an automatic top-off system like you, so the water level goes way down each day. That makes the ppm number go up. Which makes it hard to track the progress of the nute concentration accurately. Next time I'll have to mark a line where the water level should be to keep it consistent when I measure ppm's and pH. (Lines drawn using "permanent" markers aren't, I discovered.)
 
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Looking for signs of flowers forming...


Lots of little, spiky leaves growing all over.


She's a hairy bitch. Must be Italian. :-o
Hey! Are those 2 pistils on the left up high?


I like my camera when I can focus in on something close up. Nice detail.

pH:........5.50
ppm:.......1076
air temp:....65° F
water temp:..70° F
 
Mineralz

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daveroller said:
Looking for signs of flowers forming...


Lots of little, spiky leaves growing all over.


She's a hairy bitch. Must be Italian. :-o
Hey! Are those 2 pistils on the left up high?


I like my camera when I can focus in on something close up. Nice detail.

pH:........5.50
ppm:.......1076
air temp:....65° F
water temp:..70° F
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Those are DEFINATELY pistils ;) Aww yea....here comes the good shiz!! Lookin good mane
 
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