Deal is a Deal....

Sam what's the market like in WA?

what the MMj scene? Pretty chill none of the bullshit like cali, its chill but riads still happen

normally when connected to other crime or trafficing other than that its chill, seattle's DA's wont prosecute any MMJ or MJ related crimes

lots of A++ fire and alot of smokers? The dispensariies are chill and affordable, tell you what though not uncommon for growers to sell Top shelf for less then 3k, i do

Here, I redid your math:

6 plants under a 600w light ~ .6lbs every 3.5 months.

600w of light = ~800w total pull.

.8 * 18hrs on * 21days = 302 kWhs for veg

.8 * 12hrs on * 70days = 672 kWhs for flower

974 kWh total. Now if you are only running 1 light and your energy falls in the first tear its ~12.5 cents /kWh. If you are running multiple lights it can jump as high as 50 cents or $1 per kilowatt hour. Sinse you say your guys is growing 12 (I assume two lights) I'll averge this to $.28/kWh equaling $272.72 for the power (with one light I pay more than .28/kWh just because I have a single fish tank - hope your guy doesn't have a flat screen tv...)

basic set-up for a 600w light, hood, fan, speed controller, insulation, tape, duct ties, tent/tarps, containers, dirt... Should come to ~$700 (my 600w setup was 680 shipped and I bargain hunted like a mad man). This does not include ferts which can run $30 a bottle (and you often need 3 diff bottles).

6 plants under a 600w if grown well should net you .5lbs to .8lbs per cycle. Lets say your guy manages .7lbs. That's 11.2 ounces selling at $140 an ounce = $1,568. But he's giving you 2 of those so that's really only $1288.

So, that's $972 to grow it. He manages $1288 from the dispensary. This means he made $316 before you take into consideration his time and gas. Chances are the first run he looses money. And then some brat comes up to him and complains? ROFL.

Samwell Seed Well said:

their is so much wrong with what you claim im not even going to say what, just that everything you siad if applied to me is the opposite, i can grow 2 pounds form 5 plants in3 gallon containers

and my state allows me 15 a card up to three cards worth till Plant limits max out, an Oz a plant is horrible, i grow for about $1.30-$2.00 a gram, at about .010 cents per Kilo watt an hr is cheap

move out of the MJ dark ages and join the fun

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You grow 2 lbs from 5 plants using how many lights? One? And how do you manage .01/kwh? Even if I filed as broke and had the PG&E care program thats still a tier program and starts at $.11/kWh.

Shit - I wish I could get power that cheap. and 2lbs from 5 plants from a single light is absurd.

it's always back to an assumption that pot is worth lots of dollars.....unless you're a "patient" then it's worth nothing for your oz. Assuming a person makes side money (assuming most of the time he does so illegally and at a high profit), assuming he can move this product at all, assuming he does move it to offset your cost, assuming he never gets caught by the feds, assuming he never gets shook down, assuming an act of god never befalls the crop, ass.......................holes think like this.

So at your cost, you'd be at around a 300% mark up and better. Seems pretty fair to me and I bet you're on the higher end of the profit margin. I don't think that is a dirty thing.
Sorry, didn't read for less than. Still, 300% is still probable with your cost and that's working on the assumption that you consider your time involved. My point is that's how retail works.

Samwell Seed Well said:

what the MMj scene? Pretty chill none of the bullshit like cali, its chill but riads still happen

normally when connected to other crime or trafficing other than that its chill, seattle's DA's wont prosecute any MMJ or MJ related crimes

lots of A++ fire and alot of smokers? The dispensariies are chill and affordable, tell you what though not uncommon for growers to sell Top shelf for less then 3k, i do

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Yall are fucked down their by yourselves and this idea that outdoor is anyhting other than commercial work

i can grow a gram for less than 2 dollars and donate it for 6 dollars all day long, legally to dispensaries . . . . . .. .. . this how we do . . . . . . . . and the guys i deal with sell it for Ten i think, but have a sliding scale for those who are dependent or needy, my personal patients get whatever they need from me for free, one has cancer and the other has athritis the other has a nerve issues in left hand

Samwell Seed Well said:

Yall are fucked down their by yourselves and this idea that outdoor is anyhting other than commercial work

i can grow a gram for less than 2 dollars and sell it for 6 dollars all day long, legally to dispensaries . . . . . .. .. . this how we do . . . . . . . .

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Dude, if your paying a penny per kWh you should be growing for cheaper than $2 a gram...

$2 a gram is fairly easy to hit. Selling it for $6 a gram is the difficult part. The OP suggested that caregivers sell for ~$10 a gram to dispensaries...

/e and that looks like more than 1 light on those 5 plants...

ten cents a kilo watt, sorry

what do you want from me

and ya their are 3 hoods in the room and 14 plants, 2 1k's and a 600 watt,

so whats the next batch of questions, on how to be a succesfull grower

on the streets to street users 10gram is great if its from Wa and its Fire, but medical patients go through so much and avg pay here is lower i think then cali, the oatients that are very much in dire need of medicin would never be abelto afford it, i could donate Q's one at a time and get 800 easy but i would be fucking over patients so i donate at 600 a Q instead Mr.Nice Guy should be my name

Samwell Seed Well said:

there are three hoods in that picture and im basically charges 10 cents for every 1000 watts an hr, there is a lesser rating but i never meet its requirments,

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I'm confused as to how your grow fits in with the OPs statement... You sell for cheaper than the OP stated, you use more lights, I assume you spent more than $600 on your set-up... I really do wish I could get power that cheap though - here in California you'll never find it under 10 cents and they just changed it so that everyone is on a tiered program, even if you're bankrupt an disabled.

/e and OP said caregivers should give away ounces free. doesn't sound like you give away free bud either. And in my math i was estimating .7 lbs per 600 light or 1lbs per 1kW - you yield less than this - so again to the OP, you're doing your mathwrong, even Samwell agrees.

well, i started im my closet with a cloner and 400 watt light setup and T-5, start up was 2k i believe including overhead and intial capital, and i got 12 oz so it worked out similar and almost two yrs later im wher im at now, i sold it on the street to a friend to get as much back as possible think i got 280 an OZ, man times have changed,

heres a pic of my cherry

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I'm confused as to how your grow fits in with the OPs statement... You sell for cheaper than the OP stated, you use more lights, I assume you spent more than $600 on your set-up... I really do wish I could get power that cheap though - here in California you'll never find it under 10 cents and they just changed it so that everyone is on a tiered program, even if you're bankrupt an disabled.

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washington sells power to cali isnt that a bitch

Samwell Seed Well said:

well, i started im my closet with a cloner and 400 watt light setup and T-5, start up was 2k i believe including overhead and intial capital, and i got 12 oz so it worked out similar and almost two yrs later im wher im at now, i sold it on the street to a friend to get as much back as possible think i got 280 an OZ, man times have changed,

heres a pic of my cherry

washington sells power to cali isnt that a bitch

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And you still haven't addressed the OPs original question:

Could you grow 12, 2.5oz plants with a single light set-up with only $600 capital (starting with no equiptment, $600 is all you get for lights, ferts, medium, seeds/clones, water filter...) and $800 for power. Could you then quickly sell the 30 oz for $7,500?

Is this feasible in a 3 month period?

It took you 2k capital to grow 12 oz so I assume you would agree in saying that it's pretty absurd.

yes
in wa i could, but most of the 800 for power would go to nutes and a couple fans and

Ballast 1kmh/hps switable- 150
1k mh/hps combo bulb-189
no hood
4in fan 192cfm-100
canna CoCo- 2 bags -48
Canna CoCo 1L's(minis of boost/PK)-210
2gallon Smart Pots x12 -30
drip clean-30
total overhead 730+tax so like 800$ total electricity $150, at 20/4 and for 21 days and then 70 Days(max) 12/12

So for around $1k, i could grow that, but only knowing what i know now and having the strain that yields that i do . . .. . .

did i answer this correctly i rounded the original 830 or so cost up to 1k to be realistic their wold definetly be other cost then initial growing equipment

water is a flat rate here

and 30 oz for 7500 hundred . . . .? ah at street value my stuff was worth about 300(9K) oz to dispensaries 800(6K) a q so thats at street value yes

it's so simple if you don't like it don't buy it, if you don't like him don't sign him.it really cracks me up to see how mad the trolls get when they can't conTROLL the market.

Samwell Seed Well said:

yes
in wa i could, but most of the 800 for power would go to nutes and a couple fans and

Ballast 1kmh/hps switable- 150
1k mh/hps combo bulb-189
no hood
4in fan 192cfm-100
canna CoCo- 2 bags -48
Canna CoCo 1L's(minis of boost/PK)-210
2gallon Smart Pots x12 -30
drip clean-30
total overhead 730+tax so like 800$ total electricity $150, at 20/4 and for 21 days and then 70 Days(max) 12/12

So for around $1k, i could grow that, but only knowing what i know now and having the strain that yields that i do . . .. . .

did i answer this correctly i rounded the original 830 or so cost up to 1k to be realistic their wold definetly be other cost then initial growing equipment

water is a flat rate here

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I thought you said you pull 2lbs from your setup (2600w). How would you pull 1.8lbs with a single 1kW in a single grow? I'm sure I've seen heath robinson do it but that was after vegging for a couple months and pumping C02. How would you get rid of it all quickly for 250 an ounce? You said your clubs pay $168 and once for it. I don't know any middle man that would touch it at 4k/lb.

i pulled 2 from 5 plants of my HD, there were 14 plants in room, are you confused or are you trying to play word and content detective with me

4k a pound its CALLED GRINDIN posser lol hustlin makin that chedder,

Most caregivers are really out for themselves do not let them lie to you. I myself am a caregiver who is out for myself. So i know first hand. If you lie to my face i will find and cut your balls off.

luckly i get good harvest's and my three patients get whatever for free

[video=youtube;qVi0UvFu8Yo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVi0UvFu8Yo[/video]

Samwell Seed Well said:

i pulled 2 from 5 plants of my HD, there were 14 plants in room, are you confused or are you trying to play word and content detective with me

4k a pound its CALLED GRINDIN posser lol hustlin makin that chedder,

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I'm just suprised. Not many growers can pull 2lbs off a single light w/o C02 and a light mover. Props. In California you would never be able to sell a lb for 4k straight up. Hell, it's hard to sell ounces for 250. I don't think I could personally unload a zip at a time every day for 30 days @ 250 a pop without being gang affiliated.

ya i agree it is getting harder and harder thats why most of the growers i know personally just try to produce top shelf , highest quality possible

and my yield it aint me its the strain and my nutrients Canna is top of the line , ill be testing out some organic nutrient lines soon and ill make a journal on the site about it