PURPLEB3RRYKUSH
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Stairs are the biggest killer
death by t.h.c. ?......
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dandyrandy
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From what I know no receptors for thc are in the area of the brain that control breathing unlike opiates. I see no cause of death listed, or did I miss it? Thc can cause issues with arrhythmias. But other chemicals inhaled can do the same. One death in thousands of years recorded. Sad but it seems unproven.
ismann
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There was a study showing THC could actually decrease afib:
New Study Suggests Marijuana Use Does Not Increase Risk of Heart Arrhythmias, Instead May Reduce Risk of AFib
According to new research, smoking marijuana may not be associated with an increased risk of ventricular fibrillation (VF) and ventricular tachycardia (VT) following an acute myocardial infarction (AMI), or heart attack. The study also reported that marijuana users had a decreased risk of atrial...
too larry
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When doing edibles, smoking and hiking, I had to lay down or fall down. Luckily no one was around, with me laying on the ground sleeping, my tent and sleep pad still in my pack.
dandyrandy
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I've read the stories. Smoking cannabis every day for a long period of time or drinking for that matter remodels the body. Especially the heart. You need to talk for a while with an electrophysiologist. I have. But at 75 arrythmias are more common. Google heart remodelling.There was a study showing THC could actually decrease afib:
New Study Suggests Marijuana Use Does Not Increase Risk of Heart Arrhythmias, Instead May Reduce Risk of AFib
According to new research, smoking marijuana may not be associated with an increased risk of ventricular fibrillation (VF) and ventricular tachycardia (VT) following an acute myocardial infarction (AMI), or heart attack. The study also reported that marijuana users had a decreased risk of atrial...www.hrsonline.org
dandyrandy
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dandyrandy
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I've studied this in extent the last few years. Trust me.
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dandyrandy
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It's not just alcohol or cannabis. Too many carbs will remodel the body. The body tries to adapt to the new inputs.
dandyrandy
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Depending on Chad score. They believe most stroke deaths in high Chad scores may be related AFib. The aorta convulsing if you will causes a lot of the blood in the aorta to not leave. Blood clots form due to this and bingo. They actually have an operation that is done on the aorta to block it off for those that can't live on anticoagulants. I know a marathon runner who is also an md electrophysiologist who got AFib from years of extreme running. We are an evolving species. The lifestyle and foods we eat change our body. Hard to fathom. Electronics was my first love at 14. Medical and science were tied for second. Now that I'm retired I get to read other things. Hunters in Africa run down antelope until they give out then kill them. Been doing it for hundreds of thousands of years. Possibly millions. Marathon runners that are good are usually from Africa or Mexico or central America. This one young lady from Peru I believe runs 65 miles in a dress and sandals. Craziest thing I've ever seen. They made a documentary a couple years back on her. Anyway the sinus nerve in the heart controls how the heart beats. If the nerve gets damaged the timing of the heart becomes out of sync. The bottom may flutter at 200 bpm. The top is trying to feed it blood at normal 65 bpm. The hearts pumping power is diminished dramatically. If not gotten back in sync you will die. Heavy daily use of various substances have shown to damage the nerve. The smoke you inhale or glue you breath hits the nerve first thing literally in the blood from the lungs. Tha data I read in the studies is pretty conclusive. And personal experience with an AFib website where you can talk to people with afib is available. If you keep your heart rate up then that new normal will change your heart.
ismann
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Makes sense. How much of the damage to the nerve is due to things like CO in the smoke or other stuff we inhale when smoking? Or does the research point to the cannabinoids themselves damaging nerve tissue?
dandyrandy
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Anything that elevates bp or pulse. Not sure on the other gasses. Even edibles can cause heart arrythmias. Cigarette as well. Nicotine by itself also. I'm sure all of the vaping chemicals is something to look at. Hypertension is another possible trigger. After years of hypertension the heart has to pump harder. So people with heart issues are screened for that. Silent killer. The amount of bad foods we eat increase the lipids in our blood. Especially animal fat. This increases blood pressure. Over years of big Macs the body tries to modify the timing in the heart slightly. It's many things. Not any one. At 76 I smoke weed. Daily. My heart has been tested with stuff I've never seen. I have zero structure issues. My heart did take an arrythmia ride for a year a few years ago. Probably caused by hypertension and possibly a trigger of cataract surgery. Did weed cause it? I was smoking more then than now. The electrophysiologist can't say. No real clinical tests are allowed. I've not been overweight and get exercise. I stopped smoking weed for around 25 years as with work and kids responsibilities are more important. I took it up in 2012 or so. So my heart physiology is great. But I still went into tachycardia at 180 bpm. Stuck for 3 days of course in the hospital. Then for 6 months after my heart had very little rythm. I bought an EKG and started learning. They tried a cardioversion which lasted a week or so. Then I was put on flecanaide. In 4 days it converted me to normal sinus rythm. But the stuff is poison. I felt as bad as when my heart was beating erratic. I'm off flecanaide finally and just taking metoprolol which is for hypertension. Lowers blood pressure by blocking adrenaline uptake by the heart. If we keep our body flowing with adrenaline from sports or attitude we are remodelling our body. So beta blockers can help. Of course they recommend a anticoagulant for life. Many things stress the heart. Some good some bad. But it seems consistent stress whether bp, exercise, heart effecting things like weed, drinking, drugs etc. over long term heavy use can modify the body. Not to talk about the chemicals when inhaling smoke from anything. I smoke weed. But we make choices. But I never try to pick the articles that only fit my predetermined feelings about something. My health has always been great. I've been very lucky. I'm back to normal now and still raise an acre of garden and cut my own firewood. But if I could change one thing in my life I would have eaten less meat. I eat very little meat anymore. Since cutting back my blood pressure has dropped like a rock. The fats or lipids in the blood really make the heart work even when at rest. Very bad. Worse than pot.
ismann
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Too much saturated fats is an issue but they are required at least for hormone production. Good sources are fish, coconut oil, organic butter. Need to cut out the processed stuff. If you're 76 and in good health then keep it up, Sir.
dandyrandy
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I did have a knee operation a few months ago. I've worn my body out walking on concrete. 45 acre factory under roof. 25000 plus employees. Climbing and jumping down off machines. My back isn't the best either. Lifting more than I should. But I find keeping moving is key. I never did get the cataract surgery. It was stopped after I went into AFib at the beginning of the cataract surgery. After they put the numbing drops in the eye the anesthesiologist looked at the ekg and said he went into AFib. My chest felt like an alien was jumping out. I read later in a publication that 5% of people with certain Chad scores may be triggered by hormone based local anesthesia drops used in eye surgery. So next year I'll attempt it again discussing a different approach. But yep eating healthier and getting a less stressful job physically as well as mentally would have helped in having a lower resting pulse. Which reduces the possibility of cardiovascular issues especially rythm issues. So does thc cause rythm issues? It's complicated. If you have certain issues such as a resting pulse above 65 and resting bp above 120 and you have a high hormone levels in the blood for years then yes pot could trigger events. Or if you are a heavy user for years I'd say yes. Adrenaline junkies have much higher rythm incident occurences. As do meth users. But I don't know if daily meth users live long enough to remodel the heart. It can take 20 plus years.
I'm hanging in there.
OrganicBudz
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too larry
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I heard a story on NPR a couple of weeks back about feeding whole grains to kids when they first start eating solid food. Healthy gut.
dandyrandy
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The people from this tribe become obese in months when they moved into the city and ate "the normal" diet of today. I believe the documentary was on curiosity stream about various diet situations.
ultrarunninghistory.com
The Tarahumara Ultrarunners
The Tarahumara are a native people in Mexico who have run ultradistances for centuries. They competed in American events in 1927 that captivated the public
ultrarunninghistory.com
too larry
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People from places with few carbs in their diet are bad to blow up on fast food. Pacific Islanders are a good example.The people from this tribe become obese in months when they moved into the city and ate "the normal" diet of today. I believe the documentary was on curiosity stream about various diet situations.
The Tarahumara Ultrarunners
The Tarahumara are a native people in Mexico who have run ultradistances for centuries. They competed in American events in 1927 that captivated the public