death to spider mite

has any one tried a product spray safe.have been fighting the fuckers with a non organic mite spray and vaccume .but as im about two weeks from harvest im not keen to keep using and was told to try this product will soon see...
 
I was using Ed Rosenthal's "Zero Tolerance" and it took care of the white flies I had but then I had a huge infestation of Spider Mites that the Zero tolerance just wasn't taking care of. I was 4 weeks into flowering and didn't want to use chemicals that were too harsh, someone suggested Aza-Max to me and it works awesome! It says it use's a neem oil extract and is okay to spray until the day before harvest. Only a few of the little fuckers left and hopefully I'll be home free. Good luck.
 

smokie927

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Spider mites are bad you have to find the specific pesticide for extinction of those little varmin, Neem oil won't kill them but it will put them at bay for some hours.
 

skiweeds

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Spider mites are bad you have to find the specific pesticide for extinction of those little varmin, Neem oil won't kill them but it will put them at bay for some hours.
im pretty sure it does kill spider mites however im not sure about the eggs.
 

REALSTYLES

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Fuck that shit it's koolaid too them get some neem oil and use it once a week and it will get rid of them and keep using it until flower or use lady bugs a lot of them but will be more costly (they fly into the light and die) if the infestation isn't to great they will get rid of them but you will have to fog the room after your harvest.







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Predatory mites, Lady buggs, praying mantis, Then bleach the fuck outta your room!!!! Predatory mites die after all spider mites and there eggs are dead basically after there is no more food. Watch what you bring in to your room most cases its clones that aleardy where infected!
 

chusett

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has any one tried a product spray safe.have been fighting the fuckers with a non organic mite spray and vaccume .but as im about two weeks from harvest im not keen to keep using and was told to try this product will soon see...
if u dont want the smells from neem.. ucan try insect soap.. its the dark green bottle.. i use it with good results. Of course u need to spray as aregiment NOT onetime remedy. IMO the neem is more preventative.. u want to see the fuckers gone? just drench spray the safe insect soap.. 3days str8.. then id say twice to gradualy once a wk:hump:
 

skiweeds

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Watch what you bring in to your room most cases its clones that aleardy where infected!
damn right bro. my sweet tooth clone i had outside, i thought it was clean of mites. i should have checked a lot more thorough cause it was actually loaded. very stupid on my part, i should have known better being experienced as i am. but can only learn from this and i blame only myself. good thing i havent started flowering yet. im lucky the infection didnt spread too bad. i drenched the fuck out of the sweet tooth with neem and it's now back outdoors off my property. i even cut off tons of infected leaves. as for my other plants indoors i cut a lot of leaves i seen eggs/mites on. they werent too bad but i drenched them anyway. im going to do this again in about a week. damn does that piss me of though, i created a lot of work for myself ahead just from 1 stupid mistake i made.
 

smokie927

Active Member
im pretty sure it does kill spider mites however im not sure about the eggs.
Neem oil will not kill spider mites,i've used neem oil many-many times for spider mites and it does not kill them,or their eggs. All it does is holds them off for some time,depending on the environment and how rapidly they are reproducing.
 

smokie927

Active Member
Fuck that shit it's koolaid too them get some neem oil and use it once a week and it will get rid of them and keep using it until flower or use lady bugs a lot of them but will be more costly (they fly into the light and die) if the infestation isn't to great they will get rid of them but you will have to fog the room after your harvest.

I'm not to sound like you guys don't know what your talking about but, the foggers,neem oil,pesticide strips; none of them eraticate spider mites all they do is slow them down. I've used all these products over and over with high intensity and none of them do the job. Their are some serious pesticides out their that will do the trick for you but i don't reveal those methods or products on here.
 

LionInZion

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I'm not to sound like you guys don't know what your talking about but, the foggers,neem oil,pesticide strips; none of them eraticate spider mites all they do is slow them down. I've used all these products over and over with high intensity and none of them do the job. Their are some serious pesticides out their that will do the trick for you but i don't reveal those methods or products on here.
Are you kidding me... you claim to have a fool proof method, but you wont share it? Why even make the post then? Unless you devised the method all on your own, someone told you. Thats how people learn. Purposely holding back info that can help your brothers & sisters out just makes you look like a asshat.
 

skiweeds

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I'm not to sound like you guys don't know what your talking about but I've used all these products over and over with high intensity and none of them do the job. Their are some serious pesticides out their that will do the trick for you but i don't reveal those methods or products on here.
wtf is the point of posting if you say you know how to fix something but then dont reveal the methods here? sounds more like you dont know wtf your doing. neem oil does kill mites. i cant say for sure about eggs but i tested it on mites and it does kill them. you just have to spray your entire plants, especially the underside of the leaves. i even did a little experiment. captured some mites, sprayed them and they were dead. maybe there are some types of mites that are resistant to neem, but i had red spider mites and it does in fact kill them. search all over google, read on high times. everyone claims neem kills them. and if i felt like it, i could dig up a hundred sources and even record a mite genocide video with neem to prove you wrong but i dont think it's worth my time. it probably just seems like it doesnt kill them cause you have to spray EVERYWHERE. leave no hiding places. it's a lot of work but neem is very safe compared to other products. sorry if i sound like a dick but its pretty dickish to brag about how you know how to fix something but have nothing to back it up.
 

bowlfullofbliss

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Do you have co2 or access to it? You could rent a bottle from a welding supply store. If you fill the room with 10,000 parts per million for an hour you will kill any living pest, and all their eggs.

You have to vent the room, it's dangerous to you at that level. Let it vent out, and your problem is solved for good.
 

skiweeds

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just one source all about neem http://www.discoverneem.com/neem-oil-insecticide.html basically, certain bugs mostly smaller ones will die of suffocation kinda like soapy water on bugs. however normally it doesnt kill bugs right away. the oil absorbs into the plant's leaves. insects that eat or suck juices from leaves which contain neem. the neem really fucks with their hormones like making them forget to eat and mate. if neem isnt working for you, chances are that you may not be using it right.

Does neem oil insecticide work? Some gardeners question the usefulness of neem insecticide.
They sprayed neem oil, and did not see an immediate effect. They probably did not understand how neem oil affects insects.
Neem oil does work, but the way it works is different from other insecticides. Neem is not an instant, knock down, kill everything pesticide.
Neem oil affects insects in many different, ingenious and subtle ways.
How neem oil messes with the insects' brains and bodies

Neem oil has many complex active ingredients. Rather than being simple poisons, those ingredients are similar to the hormones that insects produce. Insects take up the neem oil ingredients just like natural hormones.
Neem enters the system and blocks the real hormones from working properly. Insects "forget" to eat, to mate, or they stop laying eggs. Some forget that they can fly. If eggs are produced they don't hatch, or the larvae don't moult.
Obviously insects that are too confused to eat or breed will not survive. The population eventually plummets, and they disappear. The cycle is broken.
How precisely it works is difficult for scientists to find out. There are too many different active substances in neem oil, and every insect species reacts differently to neem insecticide.
Neem oil does not hurt beneficial insects. Only chewing and sucking insects are affected. It is certainly fascinating.
Like real hormones, neem oil insecticide works at very low concentrations, in the parts per million range. A little neem oil goes a long way.
But this is not something that happens over night. People spray neem oil as insecticide, and expect everything to die instantly, because that's what they are used to from chemical poisons. When that does not happen they conclude neem insecticide does not work.
It does work! Give it time to work. It's a much smarter way to deal with insect pests than to just kill everything.
How neem oil deters chewing and sucking insects

There is a nice story that demonstrates how grasshoppers react to neem oil insecticide. It goes something like this:
Someone did an experiment. It involved two jars, two leaves, and two grasshoppers. One leaf was sprayed with a chemical insecticide, and one with neem oil. The two grasshoppers were put in the two jars, with one leaf each.
The first grasshopper ate the leaf and died almost instantly. The grasshopper with the neem oil covered leaf did not touch the leaf and lived. At least for a few days. Eventually it starved to death.
What would you prefer? A poisonous half eaten lettuce, or an organic, untouched lettuce? It's a no brainer, isn't it?
Neem stops insects from eating the plants.
Part of this action is due to to the hormone like action of neem oil that I explained above. Insects "forget" to eat after they've been in contact with even traces of neem oil.
But it is also the presence, the mere hint of a smell of neem oil, that seems to be enough to keep leaf eating insects away. Neem oil can be very powerful as an anti-feedant and insect repellent.
This anti-feedant property is one of the most often advertised and lauded properties of neem oil insecticide. However, the hormonal effects I described above are even stronger.
Neem oil as an insect deterrent works well against grasshoppers and leafhoppers, but all other insect pests are controlled mostly through the hormone action.
The subtlety of the hormonal effects, and the fact that they may take days or weeks to manifest, makes people overlook them. Ill informed gardeners seek instant gratification, i.e. lots of dead insects immediately, rather than a balanced environment in the long run.
It's a shame, because the hormonal effect is where the real power of neem oil lies. It's the key to neem oil being an effective insecticide and good for the environment at the same time. It's also important to understand this effect to use neem oil insecticide correctly.
Neem oil works from inside the plant

Many insecticides break down quickly. They wash away with rain, or when irrigating, or the sunlight destroys them. You either have to spray all the time, or you have to spray something that's so stable that it stays around forever. That means the chemical builds up everywhere and eventually poisons everything, including you.
Neem oil breaks down very quickly, too. It is especially susceptible to UV light. But neem oil is also a systemic insecticide. That means you can pour it on the soil (not pure neem oil of course, you use a dilution or extract) and the plants absorb it. They take it up into their tissue, and it works from the inside. A leaf hopper may take a couple of bites, but that's it.
However, this does not work for all insect species. The neem ingredients accumulate in the tissues deeper inside the plant. The phloem, the outermost layer, contains hardly any. A tiny aphid feeds from the phloem, it can not penetrate deep enough to get a dose of neem. But any leaf hoppers, grass hoppers or similar chomping insects will be incapacitated quickly.
People eat neem leaves to cleanse the blood, stimulate the liver, and boost the immune system. So we certainly don't need to worry about a bit of neem inside our lettuce leaves. To me this is a much more attractive option than having poisonous foulicides build up in my garden.
Neem oil suffocates insects

Many gardeners use white oil (plain mineral oil) or even olive oil to combat soft bodied insects like aphids, thrips or whitefly. The oil coats the bugs and they suffocate. Neem oil insecticide does that as well. But it's more like a little bonus on top of everything else it does.
It can be a hazard, though. Of course there is no difference between suffocating good or bad bugs. Oil suffocates anything. So this aspect can harm beneficial insects!
Neem oil and beneficial insects

Neem is non toxic for beneficial insects. The main reason is that insects need to ingest the neem oil to be affected, and beneficial insects don't eat your plants. But you can still kill beneficial insects if you smother them with neem oil, so please be careful.
Beneficial insects are most active during the day. The best time to spray neem insecticide is very early in the morning, so the spray can dry before the good insects become active. Also a good time is the late afternoon or evening. Once the spray has dried it does not harm your bees, ladybugs, lacewings, predatory mites and wasps etc.
 
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