defoliation question..... anyone familiar with it?

PJ Diaz

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She said, "plants love to be torn apart, it makes then grow back stronger." Something to think about.
Yeah, something to think about - she's an idiot, and you more so for falling for such a damaging practice that does nothing more than shock the plant and weaken it, permanently.

Kinda like leaves, who needs those nasty root hairs, eh? They only get in the way.

Having said that I don't believe you ever had a horticultural professor. I think you threw that out to make a point, another one of your falsehoods.

UB
LOL. The College I took horticulture classes from (Botany, Hort 1A & 1B, Pest Management, Soil Science and Management, etc..) is the same college who now employees me full time. I could care less what you think, because you are wrong.
 

PJ Diaz

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Yeah, something to think about - she's an idiot, and you more so for falling for such a damaging practice that does nothing more than shock the plant and weaken it, permanently.

Kinda like leaves, who needs those nasty root hairs, eh? They only get in the way.

Having said that I don't believe you ever had a horticultural professor. I think you threw that out to make a point, another one of your falsehoods.

UB
UB, I just starting using your technique of slicing my rootball when transplanting. wouldn't this be more of what PJ is talking about? He said when transplanting people are worried about disturbing the roots when they shouldn't be. He is correct about that isn't he?
That's the point exactly.
 

PJ Diaz

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I think I'll listen to my college horticultural instructors before some douche on the internet.
 

PJ Diaz

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I remember in one of my first college horticulture classes years ago, the instructor talked about transplanting. She talked about how sometimes planters are too worried about disturbing the roots when transplanting. She said, "plants love to be torn apart, it makes then grow back stronger." Something to think about.
Yeah, something to think about - she's an idiot, and you more so for falling for such a damaging practice that does nothing more than shock the plant and weaken it, permanently.

UB
I guess that makes you an idiot too:

Upcanning (repotting) - Score the rootball - pop the ball out and using a razor blade or sharp knife insert it about ½" into the rootball at the top and slice thru the exposed roots from top to bottom concentrating on any root spinout at the bottom. Rotate the rootball and do this about 4 times. Bury the “trunk” as deep as you can even if it means pulling off some of the lower leafsets. This will induce root output all along the buried trunk.
 

Uncle Ben

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Scoring and being torn apart are two different things IMO.
Quite different. One your butchering the rootball by destroying the majority of its uptake potential, the other (scoring) your creating points that will quickly induce lateral branching of root tissue behind the cuts.

Hey PJ, if you and sister Suzy want to bust your (root)balls, you get after it.

UB
 

PJ Diaz

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Scoring and being torn apart are two different things IMO.
They are only different by your definitions due to the fact that you want to take the statement to an extreme. In reality they are the same practice, only one is done by hand and then other with a knife.

Besides have you ever planted a ground cover flat? What's the first think you do? Tear the plants apart. It's done that way for a reason, and its not done to stunt growth.
 

Alexander Supertramp

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Besides have you ever planted a ground cover flat? What's the first think you do? Tear the plants apart. It's done that way for a reason, and its not done to stunt growth.
Phlox for instance is much better off being cut apart when planted and will recover faster than phlox thats has been torn apart and planted as many lost souls do. Most mosses also respond much better to gentle treatment. Cover grasses on the otherhand are usually a rhizome and tearing apart really causes little stress.
Instructors I guess tear things apart. Professors cut things apart.
 

Uncle Ben

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Phlox for instance is much better off being cut apart when planted and will recover faster than phlox thats has been torn apart and planted as many lost souls do. Most mosses also respond much better to gentle treatment. Cover grasses on the otherhand are usually a rhizome and tearing apart really causes little stress.
Instructors I guess tear things apart. Professors cut things apart.
Doubt if he knows the difference between the root structure on cannabis, phlox or coastal bermuda grass.
 

PJ Diaz

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Besides have you ever planted a ground cover flat? What's the first think you do? Tear the plants apart. It's done that way for a reason, and its not done to stunt growth.
Phlox for instance is much better off being cut apart when planted and will recover faster than phlox thats has been torn apart and planted as many lost souls do. Most mosses also respond much better to gentle treatment. Cover grasses on the otherhand are usually a rhizome and tearing apart really causes little stress.
Instructors I guess tear things apart. Professors cut things apart.
You're so busy arguing semantics, its just silly now.
 

PJ Diaz

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Phlox for instance is much better off being cut apart when planted and will recover faster than phlox thats has been torn apart and planted as many lost souls do. Most mosses also respond much better to gentle treatment. Cover grasses on the otherhand are usually a rhizome and tearing apart really causes little stress.
Instructors I guess tear things apart. Professors cut things apart.
Doubt if he knows the difference between the root structure on cannabis, phlox or coastal bermuda grass.
Troll it up much?
 

Alexander Supertramp

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"plants love being torn apart", your words not mine. And being torn apart invokes visions of aggressive abuse too me. And to say plants love that is beyond silly, its down right ignorant.
 

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jpill

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I believe you are only supposed to defoliate twice during flower to achieve the desired result. Once after the initial stretch (14 to 18 days after the 12/12 flip) and again two weeks before harvest (typically 42 to 49 days after 12/12).
I would agree with this statement
 

PJ Diaz

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"plants love being torn apart", your words not mine. And being torn apart invokes visions of aggressive abuse too me. And to say plants love that is beyond silly, its down right ignorant.
No, there's no aggression. You're reading too far into things and searching for folly.
 
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