Deliberate Stretching

Roseman

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
When we grow in small spaces, especially in areas that do not offer a lot of room for HEIGHT Growth, we often worry about STRETCHING. STRETCHING comes from having the lights too high up from the plants. IF you have limited Height Room, this info is NOT for you.
But if you have ample room for Height Growth, and are growing INDICA strains, I suggest you learn how to DELIBERATELY STRETCH your plants to create more room between the nodes for LIGHT to penetrate and Air to circulate.

I see a new thread everyday asking about Trimming Off Fan Leaves to make room for the light to get down in the plant, to let the light get to the smaller leaves and lower leaves.
IF you have plenty of room, and are growing in HYDRO, then go to your grow area and raise the lights 18 to 20 inches up higher than you previously had them, for half a day, or for about 8 to 12 hours. IF growing in soil, raise them for 24 hours, 18 inches too high.
Then, after the time period passes, lower the lights back to where they were.

You will see a GROWTH Spurt in Height, and more room between the nodes, as the plants STRETCH to the Light.

I am offering this advice from experience, and not from anything I read in a book. It works for me, but I have plenty of HEIGHT space.
 
laserbrn

laserbrn

Well-Known Member
Roseman said:
When we grow in small spaces, especially in areas that do not offer a lot of room for HEIGHT Growth, we often worry about STRETCHING. STRETCHING comes from having the lights too high up from the plants. IF you have limited Height Room, this info is NOT for you.
But if you have ample room for Height Growth, and are growing INDICA strains, I suggest you learn how to DELIBERATELY STRETCH your plants to create more room between the nodes for LIGHT to penetrate and Air to circulate.

I see a new thread everyday asking about Trimming Off Fan Leaves to make room for the light to get down in the plant, to let the light get to the smaller leaves and lower leaves.
IF you have plenty of room, and are growing in HYDRO, then go to your grow area and raise the lights 18 to 20 inches up higher than you previously had them, for half a day, or for about 8 to 12 hours. IF growing in soil, raise them for 24 hours, 18 inches too high.
Then, after the time period passes, lower the lights back to where they were.

You will see a GROWTH Spurt in Height, and more room betweent he nodes, as the plants STRETCH to the Light.

I am offering this advice from experience, and not from anything I read in a book. It works for me, but I have plenty of HEIGHT space.
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Stretching a plant on purpose is nonsense. You are only serving to lower the amount of light that is reaching the plant by doing that. There is no way you are "opening up the plant to more light" you're just increasing the distance between the lower leaves and the light. The same foliage is still blocking the light.
 
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sirbudmaster

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Roseman said:
When we grow in small spaces, especially in areas that do not offer a lot of room for HEIGHT Growth, we often worry about STRETCHING. STRETCHING comes from having the lights too high up from the plants. IF you have limited Height Room, this info is NOT for you.
But if you have ample room for Height Growth, and are growing INDICA strains, I suggest you learn how to DELIBERATELY STRETCH your plants to create more room between the nodes for LIGHT to penetrate and Air to circulate.

I see a new thread everyday asking about Trimming Off Fan Leaves to make room for the light to get down in the plant, to let the light get to the smaller leaves and lower leaves.
IF you have plenty of room, and are growing in HYDRO, then go to your grow area and raise the lights 18 to 20 inches up higher than you previously had them, for half a day, or for about 8 to 12 hours. IF growing in soil, raise them for 24 hours, 18 inches too high.
Then, after the time period passes, lower the lights back to where they were.

You will see a GROWTH Spurt in Height, and more room betweent he nodes, as the plants STRETCH to the Light.

I am offering this advice from experience, and not from anything I read in a book. It works for me, but I have plenty of HEIGHT space.
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SO if i read this right, by doing this are you NOT getting the stretch then in flower? :confused: i thought you want tight node spacing for thicker nugs?


Peace
 
indianaman

indianaman

New Member
i have very limited space, and since artificial light degrades exponentially from it's source according to the inverse square law...... why?
 
Roseman

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
laserbrn said:
Stretching a plant on purpose is nonsense. You are only serving to lower the amount of light that is reaching the plant by doing that. There is no way you are "opening up the plant to more light" you're just increasing the distance between the lower leaves and the light. The same foliage is still blocking the light.
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So it didn't work for you when you tried it, or are you commenting and talking about something you never tried and have no experience with?

And where did that quote come from, you are quoting?
 
indianaman

indianaman

New Member
i was just stating that artificial light degrades over distance, thus the extra light you'd recieve on the nodes would in fact, be less powerful to begin with.... SORRY.
 
laserbrn

laserbrn

Well-Known Member
Roseman said:
So it didn't work for you when you tried it, or are you commenting and talking aobut something you never tried and have no experience with?

And where did that quote come from, you are quoting?
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Of course it would work. Raising the light definitely stretches the plant. I'm wondering WHY you want to stretch your plants out on purpose? Does this serve a purpose? I'm guessing it has something to do with CFL's, but it should be mentioned so that it makes more sense.

If you can increase your internode spacing and increase light surrounding those nodes I guess it would be somewhat beneficial for a bushy plant.

But then, growing with CFL's is nonsense too, so....

And the quotes were a way giving a heading to this silly concept and summarizing your theory. The quotes don't represent quoting your statement, it's a method of titling the theory.

Don't get upset becasue your theory has been challenged, just defend it.
 
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jollytime

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My last grow, first grow, I kept the lights 18 - 24 inchs And had needless to say a lot streaching was going on and huge return because they got so big. It was a sativa and took forever to ripen. Nice to know I can use your theory to help my smaller plants
 
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sirbudmaster

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Roseman said:
I only do the STRETCHING during VEGGING, not in FLOWERING.

It works for me.
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i understand that BUT what i was asking for was...IF you do this in VEG, does it avoid the stretching you get in flower? otherwise if you force stretch your plant in VEG when you turn to flower side it will stretch yet again right? SO IF IT DOES then you would have to stringy of a plant then right?


Peace
 
laserbrn

laserbrn

Well-Known Member
jollytime said:
My last grow, first grow, I kept the lights 18 - 24 inchs And had needless to say a lot streaching was going on and huge return because they got so big. It was a sativa and took forever to ripen. Nice to know I can use your theory to help my smaller plants
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Try it the other way next time. Try NOT Letting the plant stretch and see what happens. Much bigger rewards, bigger denser buds and better light efficiency.
 
laserbrn

laserbrn

Well-Known Member
sirbudmaster said:
i understand that BUT what i was asking for was...IF you do this in VEG, does it avoid the stretching you get in flower? otherwise if you force stretch your plant in VEG when you turn to flower side it will stretch yet again right? SO IF IT DOES then you would have to stringy of a plant then right?


Peace
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Well, he's not saying to stretch it THAT much. It'll only open up a little bit if you only do it for 18 hours or so. I'm just still trying to wrap my head around the WHY! It won't avoid the stretch at the start of flower, you'll still get that.
 
Roseman

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society



Here's the proof!


14 days:


see the little plants in the dirt, in the bottom of the pic? I started the seeds in the dirt, the same exact day I startd the seeds in the system. see the difference????
12 days:




18 days old:


that's the difference!!
 
BudFreak420

BudFreak420

Member
Wow i dont see how this is so hard to understand but i got exactly what he was saying the first time
its very simple . u streach ur plants for a short period of time for air circulation and some more light penetration to some lower leaves = bigger harvest. try it then complain people!
 
Roseman

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
jollytime said:
My last grow, first grow, I kept the lights 18 - 24 inchs And had needless to say a lot streaching was going on and huge return because they got so big. It was a sativa and took forever to ripen. Nice to know I can use your theory to help my smaller plants
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You certainly do NOT want to stretch any Sativa.

What kind of lights do you grow with, that stay 18 to 24 inches high?
 
Roseman

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
sirbudmaster said:
i understand that BUT what i was asking for was...IF you do this in VEG, does it avoid the stretching you get in flower? otherwise if you force stretch your plant in VEG when you turn to flower side it will stretch yet again right? SO IF IT DOES then you would have to stringy of a plant then right?


Peace
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Contrary to what a lot of other growers get, mine do not STRETCH hardly any at all during Flowering.
I keep my CFLS one or two inches close at all times, VEG or FLOWER but expecially during FLOWERING. But with lack of penetration with CFLs, I STRETCH them at two weeks and again at three weeks of VEGGING, then use SIDE LIGHTS to get in between the nodes during FLOWERING to tighten my buds.
 
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