Designing a New Grow Area

Rob0769

Rob0769

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Mother and clone room definitely a must if you have the area. Also, consider 600w digital hortilux bulbs for your flowering hps. Higher luman output than a 1000w. 2 600's cost only 200 more watts for almost triple the luman output. The 1000w can penetrate further but you can get a 600w closer.. Also having a mh in the mix with the hps will help weight and resin production tremendously. The blue spectrum is for resin production.. which is more weight.
 
Rrog

Rrog

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I thought I'd put any mothers / clones in the same veg room? I wouldn't need a separate room for them?
 
superstoner1

superstoner1

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mothers/clones and veg can easily be in same room.
a 600w light does not, and never will have the same or more lumens than a 1000w bulb. saying that 2-600's is triple the lumens just doesnt make sense. and this kick on being more efficient, ok, it cost a little less to run, but in the end it will not out produce and the final weight will easily pay the difference.
 
Rrog

Rrog

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I'm down with the 1000w. These control units are a thing of beauty and a fortune. Are there DIY plans or kits or such?

Most rooms use the flower room as a lung and pull cool air from flower room to veg, and then cycle back. Not seeing how that allows for differential temps in flower and veg.
 
superstoner1

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my minisplit ac is in flower room, i have three lightproof passive intakes in wall between room. mounted on ceiling in veg room is a canister fan that forces air from veg to flower, allowing cool air to come from floor intakes. fan is hooked to a temp controller and this will keep veg room 75-77 all day long.
 
Rrog

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Thanks SS1. I see that as the standard deal. This scenario keeps temps and Rh the same for both rooms 24/7. If you wanted to cool off flowers at night before harvest, you'd need a damper system, or such. Not that cooling flowering plants is proven to do anything...
 
superstoner1

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no, it does not keep them the same. my flower room runs from 66 to 84( off/on) and veg stays 75-77. this is what the temp controller in veg does. and actually it is proven that cooler temps let the plants rest easier and allows them a break.
 
Rrog

Rrog

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Gladstoned, if your questions relate to a grow room, no worries posting them here. I'd like to learn.

SS1, Thanks for that clarification. I was under the impression that higher temps were advisable for CO2 use.
 
Cory and trevor

Cory and trevor

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Rrog said:
I thought I'd put any mothers / clones in the same veg room? I wouldn't need a separate room for them?
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the third room is a safety precaution to protect your genes mostly. If the veg room is wrecked by bugs or heat or failed system mold WTF ever can go wrong then you have stock seperate from the problem and vice versa should the clones develop a fungus or something you will have a room to take fresh cuts off. If you got trusted friends you can spread your genes out that way too just in case. The P's in full effect when you are looking at a blank slate (prior preperation prevents piss poor performance).
 
TheMan13

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I cannot even imagine where my genes would be today if it were not for my long time third (quarantine) room. Some of the best advice I have seen yet brother :bigjoint:
 
Rrog

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Ah. I see. That makes sense. A bit of an isolation room. Understood. Thanks for the clarification
 
superstoner1

superstoner1

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i see parts of the argument but still see it as wasted space. i have 17 strains going perpetual at the moment and no mothers. you really have to fuck up to lose a whole room.
 
superstoner1

superstoner1

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Rrog said:
Gladstoned, if your questions relate to a grow room, no worries posting them here. I'd like to learn.

SS1, Thanks for that clarification. I was under the impression that higher temps were advisable for CO2 use.
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in flower using co2, yes, higher temps(81-86) and i like 82-84 in flower. but plants do not use co2 during dark and a 10-15* difference in temp allows them to rest.
 
NickNasty

NickNasty

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How far away is your water well? If its close and there is a lot of water in it you should consider looking into water cooling your room it will save you a ton in energy and a bunch on the ac.
 
Rrog

Rrog

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SS1, this is at the heart of my question. So you allow the whole facility (Flower & Veg room) to warm up during the Flower Room's "day," when CO2 is going, then at "night" the temps drop for both rooms. That makes sense. Thanks for that.

That brings me to humidity. I understood that higher Rh was good for veg, not so great for flower. Do you fart around trying to increase humidity in veg room or either room during the CO2 "day?"

NickNasty - no idea where the well will be in relation to the room or the distance from the house, but wanted to avoid condensation issues. As a side note, I will be installing geothermal in the rest of the house, but diverting some to the grow room would be less stealthy than the mini-split I figured. And I can't cool the room on geothermal without a shit-ton of $$ for the geothermal converter
 
NickNasty

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Low humidity is rarely an issue in my experience. So I would not worry about raising it but in summer you will need to lower it at least in flower.
 
Rrog

Rrog

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N-N, are you meaning who cares if Rh is low? I thought it was more important during veg. This last veg round I hooked up a cool mist humidifier with a sweet switch to compensate for the AC pulling it out.
 
NickNasty

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I have run veg plants in 30% humidity and seen no difference in growth. I have a friend who during winter his veg can get down to 10% humidity and he just mists his plants once a week and they do fine. I am not saying low humidity makes no difference just that most of the time it is not a problem. If I think about it I can't think of anyone complaining that their plants were suffering cause of low humidity.
 
Rrog

Rrog

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Well... can't say I saw any diff when I increased the Rh this last grow. One less thing to mess around with there, Spanky. Thanks
 
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