Are the diesel ryders done? How much dry from them? I just ordered some last week myself. Im gonna do them inside with cfl bulbs. I think 2- 125w 1=6400k & 1=2700k 17,000 lumens should be enough for a 4x2 box. I built my reflector yesterday and when I can borrow a saw from someone I'll cut my pvc pipes for the box. I'll post some pics later. I figure if I plant all 10 plus the free roadrunner seed then I might have 6 females. That should be enough room.