Diesel Ryder

Hey tek, Hopefully they will be..
I was kinda lucky with the ECSD x LR2 , as i had a good percentage of SWEEEET plants that had the auto trait, and still remained relatively short, i think the tallest maxed out at 2.5 ft...so i crossed the best male n fem twice, and so far all of the resulting seeds have been auto..
I doubt i'll have the same luck with the NL#1 mix, but hey, finger's x'd its not too much of a drama. but i'll keep back crossing etc til i get em to auto.
I doubt theyll stay shorter than 2 ft tho... my NL#1 grows at a terrific rate, so its all gonna be down to the resulting seed to pick the most viable plants with the desirable characteristics.
I'm aiming for 100% auto most importantly,then trying to maintain a short-ish height..
Lotsa work ahead, but its all part of the game huh.

Thats awesome man, Crossing your own strains just takes growing weed to a whole new level...

I hope to get there one day...

What are your thoughts on the length of time pollen is viable for?

Peace
-Tek

after speaking to FDD pollen seems to be viable for a month or two if its kept dark,dry and cool.
I have used pollen that was 6months old, and it got mixed results.
i pollinated all of the lower buds on a plant, half with fresh pollen and half with the 6month stuff...The fresh stuff worked sweet, and the 6month stuffhad a 50/50 success rate.

Interesting thx for advice on that

Peace
-Tek

wasap with tha pictures !?

frostythesnowthug said:

after speaking to FDD pollen seems to be viable for a month or two if its kept dark,dry and cool.
I have used pollen that was 6months old, and it got mixed results.
i pollinated all of the lower buds on a plant, half with fresh pollen and half with the 6month stuff...The fresh stuff worked sweet, and the 6month stuffhad a 50/50 success rate.

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sup frosty,

Just happened along here and read about your little eastcoast ryders, sound nice!!

I had a couple quick questions for ya tho' since tek brought it up.

U say a month or two.- maybe 6 mo(with degredation)


I just wanted to try to get a bit more detail out of you on how you collect and store it.

Do you use a thickener/drying agent?- like mix the pollen with flour?
They say when you mix it you can mix pollen/flour@1:10 (that is not a link folks) I have even read that it could be mixed 100 to one. But thats stretching it in my opinion. Being able to mix half and half is good to be able to extend it and the flour helps to keep the humidity down so that the pollen stays viable longer.

Where do you store it, and in what.
do you put it in the freeze? or fridge? i hear it maintains viability beter in a fridge opposed to an icebox. The defrosting cycles in most freezers can creat unfavorable condtions from what i hear. Do you jar it? I have known ppl to put it in envelopes, plastic baggies, straws, wax paper you name it.

How do you apply it?
Do you just sprinkle it over your seedsites, or do you use some sort of applicator-Q-Tip, paintbrush, makeup sticks?



thanks for ya ear bra!


peese

i snip off small groups of flowers that are about to pop and scatter their pollen, leave the flowers on aluminum foil or waxed magazine paper in a cool dark place and give them a gentle shake/roll each day which helps push the pollen out..
There are other ways of doing it but this works for me and is easy as pie.

I store the pollen in film roll cannisters, and store the cannisters in ziploc baggies, then either into the fridge, or into a cool dark cupboard if i'm i'm gonna be using it very soon after collecting it.... i have heard of people having pollen that is stil viable after nearly 12months, but i havent stored any that long, and dont intend to, i like to keep it reasonably fresh.

I dont mix it with flour or anything, just pollen into the cannisters..

Application is via an artists paintbrush, just a dab in the pollen and a light brush over the pistils. i have tried q-tips, but they seem to absorb more pollen than they apply.

The NL#1 is starting to flower nicely now, so i think i'll be good to start with the pollination of those early pistils sometime soon
I cant wait to get this experiment under way...
Once i'm sure theyre 100% auto i'll see if i can run a comp on here for some of the resulting beans...

I just got some lowryder X Sour Diesel seeds from a local smoke shop, I am very excited to grow these. Paid 100 dollars for 10 seeds, a little pricey but probably worth it as i will be breeding them. Hey snowy, would this be your cross that you developed or do you think someone else has also created it too? I will be pollinating the females as much as possible for the max amount of seeds. I can't wait, they sound awesome.

Hey Nep, nope thats not mine bro, altho same kinda.
The diesel ryders from joint doc are NYCD, if i remeber correctly, its the soma strain they used, but dont quote me.
I got 'use' of a clone a while abck to start the breeding, and then eventually got me a clone to work off.
Theyre a great lil plant, and a decent smoke, so ya i know the joint docs beans seem pricey, but i tested some of those before they got released,and they were nice,easy grow, with good results

yeah the diesel ryders look like the best most potent auto flowering plant available right now. Are the sour diesel x lowryders the same strain as diesel ryders by joint doctor? I'm confused. here is a pic of what the seeds came in

NO its not the same as joint Drs dieselryder,as i explained before.
He's used NYCD.
this is my own cross.
I have crossed East coast sour diesel and LR2, a few times, then inbred the best offspring,and now i'm inbreeding for the desirable height.
I want to make it a good sog strain for micro growers.

I'd say the strongest Autos available at the moment are LowLifes auto AK, Auto White russian in particular are very nice, just not quite as trpouble freee to grow as LR/LR2/LRDIESEL.

i wanna see pictures of your cros of lowryda! cann you mannage that

yeah lemme go ake a few pics now...

BRB

Heres the pix of the ECSDLR2.
These have around 10-14 days left before i'm gonna chop.
Heavy trichs, very strong odor, Main buds same size as toilet tissue tubes.smallest buds are the size of my thumbs, very dense nugs.

P.S sorry for the shit quality pix i hadda use my LG viewty camera.

Picture quality wasn't that bad. Those look like some pretty nice plants, bro! I have just started some Deisel Ryder, I know it's not the exact same thing because you made your own cross (impressive, by the way), but I'm still curious about something. How would you say your Auto Sour Deisel compares to the original Sour Deisel you used for the cross? I'm just wondering how much LR2 you find in the final product besides the auto trait.

im smoking diesel ryder right now and dont kno what diesel is like or lr2 lol is good tho.

mr west said:

im smoking diesel ryder right now and dont kno what diesel is like or lr2 lol is good tho.

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I have heard that basically all the LR2 hybrids produce some quality smoke. I know the pictures look pretty good. I'm actually growing 2 different auto-flowerers right now, the Deisel Ryder and also Lowlife's Auto AK-47 x Auto Hindu Kush, which I am pretty excited about. It sounds like a good cross to me, anyway. It's fuckin' sweet that you are smokin' on some now. I wish I had some to sample ! Does it have a nice, fruity taste? That is what Deisel is known for, it supposedly has the flavor of ripe red grapefruits. Does the Deisel Ryder you have carry that trait?

What I guess I'm trying to figure out is how much these strains differ from the original non-auto strain used in the cross. I figured FrostytheSnowThug might be able to enlighten us all since he actually bred his own cross. His insight on this issue is basically as good as any breeder of auto-flowerers, but without the whole marketing and selling aspect, I'll probably get more truthful answers from him than from anyone who markets and sells their seeds as a product. Of course they say "It's exactly the same except for the auto trait," I'm wondering how close you can get to the original and still retain the auto trait and short stature. Is it possible to basically 'reproduce' the regular parent as an auto? This would be after several generations of inbreeding/backcrossing, of course. Just wondering what I am gonna end up with. I'm not worried, I have other regular plants too, but I am having fun so far with my little autos. They are still very young (less than 2 weeks since germination started) It is pretty much an experiment. I'm trying it because it looked good, sounded fun, and I really have nothing to lose because my G13 Haze (started a little while ago) will be ready at about the same time as the auto ones

its weird cuz living with it growing ive become imune to the smell, it does creeep up un expected tho like in the que in tescos lol. I wouldnt say grapefruit tho taste wise ill just have a bong to tel u wot i think and refreash my memory lol any excuse lol , brb,,,,couggh cough cough its kinda freash linke granny smiths apples, I trhink hang on ill jus make sure now ive stopped coughng lol, brb,,,,coff coff yes also its quite earthy sort of petunia oil rich sort of tang lol.

oooo its hit me with some visuals now bout a min after two big bong bowels im geting peripheral twinkles and almost like migraine type visuals, thank goodness there aint the pain of a migraine lmao )