Discuss the advantages of "Vert"

pinner420

pinner420

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I think your style is on point and the quality your generating is top shelf. Vert is just reorganized identical tools with a touch better averages in the cooling and light coverage department. Ive seen flatlander dudes pull great runs but it seems they have to work overtime scrogging etc. 6.5 foot plants are coming in at 1.75 lbs to 2.2 lbs. 4ft plants at 9zips to 1.2 lbs strain dependent yada yada. Once veg and flower are synced in rythem you wont miss any rotation based on plant size concerns you expressed.. it just flows and yes a tad more veg space is required no doubt but the rythem is same muscle memory. If you give it a go just to try another style i believe you will be happy with the ease and larger harvests. You eluded to plant counts hemming you up earlier and that is exactly the reason i chose to grow trees. After 7 years at it i prefer 3 points of light per tree. If my room was 2x bigger i could add 2 more plants in increase my efficiency but trying to tow the line and stay in my card limits and be a good kid! I use elbow to fist light to plant for spacing. "Sometimes a change is better than a rest" @Heath Robinson

P.S. Its fucked riu lost all the pics to his threads....
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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pinner420 said:
I think your style is on point and the quality your generating is top shelf. Vert is just reorganized identical tools with a touch better averages in the cooling and light coverage department. Ive seen flatlander dudes pull great runs but it seems they have to work overtime scrogging etc. 6.5 foot plants are coming in at 1.75 lbs to 2.2 lbs. 4ft plants at 9zips to 1.2 lbs strain dependent yada yada. Once veg and flower are synced in rythem you wont miss any rotation based on plant size concerns you expressed.. it just flows and yes a tad more veg space is required no doubt but the rythem is same muscle memory. If you give it a go just to try another style i believe you will be happy with the ease and larger harvests. You eluded to plant counts hemming you up earlier and that is exactly the reason i chose to grow trees. After 7 years at it i prefer 3 points of light per tree. If my room was 2x bigger i could add 2 more plants in increase my efficiency but trying to tow the line and stay in my card limits and be a good kid! I use elbow to fist light to plant for spacing. "Sometimes a change is better than a rest" @Heath Robinson

P.S. Its fucked riu lost all the pics to his threads....
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Oh I have seen Heath's threads. His trees are bigger than my room. :-)
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Nugachino said:
Here's my shithouse attempt at getting some vert into the mix. Still nowhere near finished. View attachment 4048411
The advantage comes from using the available surface area more effectively. Without having to be in a larger area.
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You're going to be disappointed; that half moon shape is designed to get the most out of an omnidirectional light source, like a light bulb. COB LED's directional output isn't going to hit the raised edges like you want.
 
Nugachino

Nugachino

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ttystikk said:
You're going to be disappointed; that half moon shape is designed to get the most out of an omnidirectional light source, like a light bulb. COB LED's directional output isn't going to hit the raised edges like you want.
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I'm not doubting your experience or info. But, are you sure? I don't have any reflectors on my cobs. And their output angle is fairly wide.

Here's a tiny bit of progress for all to critique.20171126_223745.jpg
 
gr865

gr865

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Nugachino said:
I'm not doubting your experience or info. But, are you sure? I don't have any reflectors on my cobs. And their output angle is fairly wide.

Here's a tiny bit of progress for all to critique.
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To get equal lighting across the screen your light source needs to cover the entire area equally. This is taken from the net but it shows that the light source is equal distance from the screen.
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Also notice how the reflector reflects above the screen so it get light to the outer reaches of the screens.

It is basically a circular vert grow cut in half and laid on it's side. A parabolic scrog!
I really know nothing about this type of grow but just by appearance it looks that way to me.

Just took my morning dose of CO and things look a little different at the moment.
:sleep:

GR
 
gr865

gr865

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I have never done a scrog, but I do use a screen that I tie the branches back too, not weave it in and out through the screen. Doesn't that make harvesting a bitch. I have run a cool tube in the past but it was just for a horizontal grow.
Don't run a cool tube with my vertical grow. I run the two 315's and the center fan keeps the heat away from the plants.

GR
 
jonsnow399

jonsnow399

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nxsov180db said:
I wanted to run DE's in a vertical grow before but I wasn't able to find any that were able to be hung vertically. I wonder how does a place sell a vertical fixture without supplying any vertical rated bulbs???
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Its a pre order item, I suppose they are going to stock the bulbs.
 
digging

digging

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I think people will be using the standard already available de bulbs, I don't think you will see vertical specific de bulbs.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Nugachino said:
Thanks for the information jon.
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Certain MH and CMH/CDM style HID lamps either won't work in the wrong orientation or will suffer severely shortened lifespan.

I've never seen an HPS lamp that wasn't a universal mount, so a vertically mounted DE should work fine.

But LED lighting is a better choice for vertical growing for lots of reasons.
 
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