ditching hps for quantum lights

CCCmints said:
Oh wait, I forgot....HLG cultist don't believe in science. They just replace there lights and change 40 other variables then yield a little bit less with their quantum boards and say, "Well, its good enough I suppose. 50% less power, woooooooo!"
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Name 10 out of the 40.... I'll wait
 
Lola Grows said:
I'm

Are you trolling? I just told you I'm happy being in the "cult" because they've proven themselves. You on the other hand are posting your own data and drawing your own conclusions. You can't even provide a side by side grow. I did do my research and narrowed it down between hlg and timber. I purchased the 550, can't be mad because it's still in the box and totally returnable but it's not going anywhere. That light is a BEAST!! :)
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You haven't even fucking turned it on yet oh my god LOL
 
Do yourself a favor Lola, grab an SQ-500, a fresh 1k HPS bulb, make a photometric uniformity mat, and see for yourself the difference. Its really not that difficult. I'm honestly surprised you guys are having so much difficulty understanding this. You could even take your HLG-550 out of the box, turn it on, and test it just like you did the HPS bulb! THEN, you could create visual representations of the data you collect, compare them against each other, and note the differences. This will give you an understanding of how the lights perform.

But no, you'd rather just believe in a marketing ploy while the product in question sits in its box. Brilliant.
 
CCCmints said:
You haven't even fucking turned it on yet oh my god LOL
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Did I not state the light just arrived? I wouldn't make a damn near thousand dollar purchase without researching the product. I'm just wondering why you're on multiple threads slandering a product you don't even own.
 
I really hope these QB lights really are not shitty. That would be devastating. I bought 2 of those hlg 600 qb and will be replacing 2 1k hps lamps and replacing the 3rd 1k hps lamp with this 750 watt cob light i did but never used 1.5 years ago. So basically I'm praying those hlg 600's will relace those 2 1k hps, and the 750 cob replace the last 1k hps slut. Now I'm fucking scared again.
 
CCC, they don't care. Don't you see this? Some of these LED users are exactly like Trump supporters. Every "bad" news is "fake news" and their lights can do nothing wrong. These lights can shoot dead photons in the middle of a Manhattan street and be cheered on to do it again! They can paint orange color all over their faces and still call it white light! They can pay a million dollars for a "trumped" up light and say it works better the real sun because the real sun is fake!

Why don't we just say what the 550 really compares to and stop this silliness? Better than a 600 watt hps but really not close to 1000. Would that solve it?
 
Lola Grows said:
Did I not state the light just arrived? I wouldn't make a damn near thousand dollar purchase without researching the product. I'm just wondering why you're on multiple threads slandering a product you don't even own.
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That is precisely what you did. But its OK, now you've got your BEAST light. So, now its time to test this BEAST, right? I mean, you don't believe the data HLG provides (but you believe their claim of succeeding 1000w HPS with 50% less power), you don't believe the data I provide for 1k HPS, so I guess you have to do it yourself now...Right? Surely before you buy another beast. Don't feel bad when your data is nearly identical to everything I've posted. Buyer's remorse is a bitch.

As for your question regarding why I'm speaking on this topic. I have 0 respect for any company which bases their entire operation on blatant lies. I'm sharing factual information so that people looking to invest in a lighting system to replace their 1k HPS don't end up with a product which doesn't live up to its claims. HLG knows the HLG-550 is in no way shape or form a viable replacement for 1k HPS. You could tag their whole team and they won't chime in on this discussion, I assure you of that.
Hotwired said:
CCC, they don't care. Don't you see this? Some of these LED users are exactly like Trump supporters. Every "bad" news is "fake news" and their lights can do nothing wrong. These lights can shoot dead photons in the middle of a Manhattan street and be cheered on to do it again! They can paint orange color all over their faces and still call it white light! They can pay a million dollars for a "trumped" up light and say it works better the real sun because the real sun is fake!

Why don't we just say what the 550 really compares to and stop this silliness? Better than a 600 watt hps but really not close to 1000. Would that solve it?
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The HLG-550 would perform better than a 600w HPS, I agree. There's just less money in a "600 watt HID replacement!". The reality is, the type of marketing strategy HLG chose is one with an expiration date. You can't live off a lie forever. More people like me will surface and bring to light the truth on this matter.
 
Hotwired said:
CCC, they don't care. Don't you see this? Some of these LED users are exactly like Trump supporters. Every "bad" news is "fake news" and their lights can do nothing wrong. These lights can shoot dead photons in the middle of a Manhattan street and be cheered on to do it again! They can paint orange color all over their faces and still call it white light! They can pay a million dollars for a "trumped" up light and say it works better the real sun because the real sun is fake!

Why don't we just say what the 550 really compares to and stop this silliness? Better than a 600 watt hps but really not close to 1000. Would that solve it?
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I agree man.
IMHO a lot of the LED consumers suck.
Its ludicrous, that the manufacturers are getting paid, for people to build diy lights, for the lights to be any good.
LED consumers should be saying how shit their lights are, that they make better diy, and wont buy anymore LED's until the manufacturer ups the game.
Led's would be so far ahead by now, if products got thrown back at their faces. How many people want to DIY?
The decent plug and plays too, holy f@%#&$€ck. Well over a grand, just for one unit.
I reckon i could get a full 1kw Gavita kit, and great ballast for way less. Let alone the cheaper route, you could kit out a whole room.
LED consumers make better kits, than the manufacturer. It just seems silly to me.
Wish i was an LED manufacturer. Fuck id be spinning all sorts of shit, and getting away with it.
 
CCCmints said:
That is precisely what you did. But its OK, now you've got your BEAST light. So, now its time to test this BEAST, right? I mean, you don't believe the data HLG provides (but you believe their claim of succeeding 1000w HPS with 50% less power), you don't believe the data I provide for 1k HPS, so I guess you have to do it yourself now...Right? Surely before you buy another beast. Don't feel bad when your data is nearly identical to everything I've posted. Buyer's remorse is a bitch.

As for your question regarding why I'm speaking on this topic. I have 0 respect for any company which bases their entire operation on blatant lies. I'm sharing factual information so that people looking to invest in a lighting system to replace their 1k HPS don't end up with a product which doesn't live up to its claims. HLG knows the HLG-550 is in no way shape or form a viable replacement for 1k HPS. You could tag their whole team and they won't chime in on this discussion, I assure you of that.
The HLG-550 would perform better than a 600w HPS, I agree. There's just less money in a "600 watt HID replacement!". The reality is, the type of marketing strategy HLG chose is one with an expiration date. You can't live off a lie forever. More people like me will surface and bring to light the truth on this matter.
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No buyers remorse because I'm aware of what this light can do. You don't have to try soooooo hard to convince others what they should invest in because it's not your money. As soon as my larger tent arrives I'll be officially joining "the cult " lol. :) IMG_8152.JPG
 
Tim1987 said:
I agree man.
IMHO a lot of the LED consumers suck.
Its ludicrous, that the manufacturers are getting paid, for people to build diy lights, for the lights to be any good.
LED consumers should be saying how shit their lights are, that they make better diy, and wont buy anymore LED's until the manufacturer ups the game.
Led's would be so far ahead by now, if products got thrown back at their faces. How many people want to DIY?
The decent plug and plays too, holy f@%#&$€ck. Well over a grand, just for one unit.
I reckon i could get a full 1kw Gavita kit, and great ballast for way less. Let alone the cheaper route, you could kit out a whole room.
LED consumers make better kits, than the manufacturer. It just seems silly to me.
Wish i was an LED manufacturer. Fuck id be spinning all sorts of shit, and getting away with it.
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Whats your yields like with your 1k hps?
 
Lola Grows said:
First of all, I'm a woman and the light is big it's just the angle of my camera making it appear smaller.
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First of all, no one asked your gender. Second of all, how are you aware of what that little light can do if you refuse to properly test it?
 
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