DIY E-Nail

Young Bull · Mar 19, 2014

Yeah I'll check the diameter when I get home, I know with that design of nail it won't be the best heat transfer but I really like that nail, hopefully I'll be able to make something work. The only thing I don't like about that nail is how long it takes to heat up, even with the bed bath and beyond torch. I'm always driving my wife crazy with my long heating sessions lol

SparkOne · Mar 19, 2014

I've been lurking through this thread for the past couple days and today I made an account so I could truly follow. What you're doing is great and I would love to purchase a fully assembled one as well.

I do have a quick question though, I've never used an electronic nail, do they get the glass joints hot like regular nails? Wouldn't want anything to crack.

budbro18 · Mar 19, 2014

I feel it on the torch! No jet flame sound late night is a nice thing to look forward to.

As for the joint getting hot they definitely do. Thats why i recommend a drop down. I posted one a few pages back. They just plug into your joint and move it about 1-3 inches away from your piece and alow all that heat to soak into the drop down and not the joint.

Luckily alot of our pieces are by locals for pretty cheap so buying a 20 dollar drop down on a 50-75 dollar rig isnt so necessary but if we had some nice fancy glass itd for sure be gettin the drop down.

budbro18 · Mar 19, 2014

DO NOT USE MINI XLR..... Just fucked up my first plug because that shit is too small to solder. I didnt have a set of magic hands so it was awkward but ill probably just switch to the DIN or a regular 5 pin XLR

Sucks because i liked the clean look of the thread-mount so i didnt have to screw any screws into this box.

tharealmclovin · Mar 19, 2014

I have the 5 pin DIN connector that the DIY uses. Still super tiny but a little bigger. Im not good with soldering so im gonna have my buddy do it for me. Ill just dab him out once we finish. Next time I will use 5 pin XLR's or just get my coil from D-Nail with an attachment already. Waiting on 1 more switch and my relay.

nme · Mar 19, 2014

Is everyone here using the HE Infiniti Nail with their DIY enail? Coilworks has dropped the universal nail they were selling...

Budbro: did you ever find anyone to blow quartz for you?

biscuithead · Mar 20, 2014

I'm waiting for a friend to make me a prototype quarts nail so in a few days I'll let you know if they are as nice as they should be I will try to help some of you guys out. Also what are the clips called that I need to connect the 16g wire to everything thanks

budbro18 · Mar 20, 2014

Yeah the DINs just have more room on them and theyre spread out a little more. haha Hopefully ill be able to find a 5 pin xlr in stores.

No quartz blower yet but buscuithead is workin on it. I plan to use one of the ceramic nails. He has a new version coming out specifically made for the coils as well as the one he just came out with.

Ill probably be gettin a few flat coils as well so itll work even better with the ceramic nail.

guccikins · Mar 20, 2014

I subbed too. I have been reading this thread, but Im afraid I wont be able to build this without a very detailed guide. I have never soldered or wired before, but I am very good at DIY. If I cant make my own, Budbro, would you sell me a completed one and for how much?

tharealmclovin · Mar 20, 2014

My Domeless.com ceramic came today. While it is nice, it doesn't fit the coil like I had planned. If I flip it to where it is for a regular 18mm slide it can wedge it in to work. I am gonna get a dropdown so I dont break my joint.

budbro18 · Mar 20, 2014

250 bucks for one and mclovin did you get the ceramic spacer/washer?? That woulda helped it fit a little better probably.

tharealmclovin · Mar 20, 2014

I did not get the washer. If you look at the picture...The left one is way too tall for my coil, while the right one is pretty tight. For $10 I may buy the 5 pack of washers and stack them. The Ceramic also transfers the heat to the glass. I recommend a dropdown.

budbro18 · Mar 22, 2014

Yeah i feel it! Def need those ceramic washers and a drop down if youre usin an enail/dabbin enough to want/need an enail. Like i was sayin me and my friends all have like 50-75 dollar rigs from local guys so theyre nothin fancy or close to our hearts haha. Also, being blunt guys its hard to get that close to a piece of glass... hahaha Thats a nice lil rig you got there too!

budbro18 · Mar 22, 2014

Workin hard tryin to get this first one fully wired and running. Took me a few times but i got it workin now. Definitely need a different box. Not enough room for my likin. I wanna look for a low profile heat sink as well. Might grab one from auber next time i order. Probably gonna get an ebay one though cause they charge a lot for them on aubers site. Also, make sure you buy your fuses online because i cant find shit for 5x20mm 250v 15a or 10a fuses anywhere. Gonna be makin an order for some of those soon.

biscuithead · Mar 23, 2014

Yea I have everything wired appropriately but it won't heat up and I've switched the tc connections on the xlr a few times. Help me out budbro how did you end up wiring it we used all the same stuff and it's killing me not knowing what's up. Thanks in advance

budbro18 · Mar 23, 2014

Just finished wiring it today and got it all workin fine.

Im in the process of loadin the pictures onto my computer.

You might have your ssr connection mixed. ive heard thats a common mistake for it not heating up. Just double check everything.

This is how i wired my power inlet. far right white with black line is ground. didnt have green shrink wrap. reds are hot white are neutral/-

You should upload some pictures of what yours looks like, i found it pretty easy once i got it all laid out and all the right connectors. Took me longer to assemble the wires with all the connectors and shrink wrap than to wire it up.

LiquidJunglist · Mar 23, 2014

Maybe a SSR like this...

http://www.serelays.com/products.php?t=70S2

the highest contact rating is 25A

budbro18 · Mar 23, 2014

that one on the left in the picture looks just like the one @humboldtenail uses for his. But the 25a one isnt too much smaller than the one im using. itd definitely save me some space though! But i was planning/hoping to get metal boxes so i could reduce a little bit of the heat the SSR causes.

Also, i couldnt find 10a or 15a 5x20mm fuse but the 6.5a fuses i got worked fine and shouldnt blow because the coil only uses 200w which i think is a little less than 4 amps but im not sure. Either way its cycled through for a few hours without blowing so i dont think it should.

tharealmclovin · Mar 23, 2014

Had issues soldering my connections too. I am still missing a switch and just hardwired the Coil for now. I am testing and will hopefully get everything connected in the next few days with solder.

biscuithead · Mar 23, 2014

i checked everything and it seems to be all good but my copper ground pin on the rocker was on the left ... that was the only difference so maybe it was my soldering ability so im going to rewire. whenever you get your pics of everything uploaded ill use it as a reference because i dont want to destroy anything. thanks soo much for everything and hopefully i can return the favor if my buddy can make these quarts nails quick

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